are kids used as subjects to go under the radar of state censorship? and why always the quest theme - i mean I know it's not unique to Iranian cinema but just seems so prevalent.
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 19:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 20:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
the girl wants a goldfish. she haggles her mother for the money and then she loses it down the drain and she needs to get ppl to help her.
OK i saw it a long time ago and my memory isn't as good these days but that's how i remember it.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 7 November 2002 11:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 7 November 2002 19:45 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 7 November 2002 21:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
― David. (Cozen), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 22:11 (twenty years ago) link
http://www.mastersofcinema.org/pics/kiarostami_28_08_04.jpg
― amateur!!st, Wednesday, 1 September 2004 18:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 2 September 2004 08:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 2 September 2004 08:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 2 September 2004 09:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 2 September 2004 10:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!st, Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:26 (nineteen years ago) link
The conversation with the purse-snatcher in the second scene was pretty funny.
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:27 (nineteen years ago) link
iranian films are HUGE in paris. there were often 10 of them in theaters at once. i had a hard time following all the new releases. inevitably the euphoria of first disocovery has worn off a bit, and i've seen a few that didn't impress me at all.
― amateur!!st, Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!st, Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:27 (nineteen years ago) link
i don't think the second part of this sentence follows from the first
― amateur!!st, Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!st, Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:36 (nineteen years ago) link
As does everything involved in film.
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Reed Moore (diamond), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 2 September 2004 19:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 5 May 2005 19:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 May 2005 19:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― Eric von H. (Eric H.), Friday, 6 May 2005 04:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 6 May 2005 09:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― N_RQ, Friday, 6 May 2005 09:30 (eighteen years ago) link
the insert to the bfi VHS?
― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 6 May 2005 13:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― N_RQ, Friday, 6 May 2005 13:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 6 May 2005 13:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― N_RQ, Friday, 6 May 2005 13:58 (eighteen years ago) link
Sadly, my video is connected wrong, so I can't tape the overwhelming feast of films that C4 have lined up.
I get a lot of lines on the screen. I'm sure it's something very simple. Perhaps one of you will know what to do. Innit.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 09:01 (eighteen years ago) link
I said I liked Ten way up there. Its now one of my least favourite films on a second viewing. It completely panders to a western liberla view of the problems of Iranian society.
― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 09:13 (eighteen years ago) link
anyway, the staggers rejected the article itself, which i ended up putting on a webzine somewhere, last summer. part of the ns's problem was the idea of iranian film -- like it was too far out.
and this is what bugs me: c4 saying 'the iranians are coming'. last night was the first time an AK film has been shown on ttv here. it's absurd, this timelag in film culture.
roll on the taiwanese cinema season in 2008.
― N_RQ, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 09:25 (eighteen years ago) link
I haven't seen all the Abbas K films, but they all seem to involve non-medieval things like film crews and 4x4s, and I've never felt patronised. Perhaps I should TRY HARDER.
I have Ten on a laser disc. I will watch it one day.
I like the way all these films seem to lead into other films.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 09:26 (eighteen years ago) link
I don't see anything po-mo in these films.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 09:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― N_RQ, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 09:38 (eighteen years ago) link
I found the film a bit boring though.
― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 09:40 (eighteen years ago) link
You were up very late, Jerry the Nipper.
I tell you what I didn't think was very good, and that's Catterick. After which I went to bed until the 1.30 yodelling practice.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 09:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― N_RQ, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 09:50 (eighteen years ago) link
I like the fact that HMV has Tinto Brass in the World Cinema section. 'All Ladies Do It' is a personal favourite of mine.
You are right about festivals, there is an awful lot of dross shown, some of it Iranian. I saw one about landmine removal and burnt-out tanks and tortoises and it was REALLY boring. The director was there to witness the slow trickle of people walking out.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 10:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― N_RQ, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 10:11 (eighteen years ago) link
implicit implications OK!
― dow, Tuesday, 1 March 2022 21:19 (two years ago) link
Been meaning to watch that one. Recently watched this Israeli Apple TV+ production called Tehran, in which the Iranian characters are pretty sympathetic so now have been inspired to (re)watch some actual Iranian movies.
― Gary Gets His Tonsure Out (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 1 March 2022 21:24 (two years ago) link
Tbh I kind of got used to Athens doubling as Tehran so interesting to see how the real place looks. Which is not totally different.
― Gary Gets His Tonsure Out (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 1 March 2022 21:25 (two years ago) link
Is the entire thread about Abbas Kiarostami and Jafar Panahi
― Wile E. Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 4 May 2022 01:18 (one year ago) link
Lots about Farhadi upthread already.
― Wile E. Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 4 May 2022 01:20 (one year ago) link
Anyway, HIT THE ROAD lived up to its trailer and poster.
― Wile E. Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 5 May 2022 11:08 (one year ago) link
Watched About Elly and The Salesman over the weekend. I suppose either The Hero or Fireworks Wednesday is next.
― Don't Renege On (Our Dub) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 16 May 2022 16:19 (one year ago) link
I have lots of catching up to do
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 13:16 (one year ago) link
The Hero another nail-biter.
― Apollo and the Aqueducts (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 22 May 2022 20:27 (one year ago) link
And there’s a story behind the story: https://www.indiewire.com/2022/04/asghar-farhadi-found-guilty-plagiarism-a-hero-1234714331/
― Apollo and the Aqueducts (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 22 May 2022 20:36 (one year ago) link
https://www.vulture.com/2022/04/asghar-farhadi-sued-plagiarism-a-hero.html
Masihzadeh claimed Farhadi made her sign a document in 2019, before he began production on A Hero, stating that he owned the idea for All Winners, All Losers, which she did “under great pressure.” Farhadi’s lawyer does not dispute the document, saying it clarified that “he was the one who proposed the idea and the plot of the documentary.” His lawyer said he researched the story on his own, based on media coverage; Masihzadeh claims there was little coverage of the incident that inspired her documentary. Relatedly, Farhadi claimed the main character of A Hero, Rahim, is dissimilar to the real-life subject of All Winners, All Losers. One former student from 2011 additionally told The Hollywood Reporter he believed Farhadi made a film based off one of his projects, but did not plan to sue because he “is a genius filmmaker.”
― Apollo and the Aqueducts (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 23 May 2022 14:33 (one year ago) link
An interview with Farhadi also on Vulture links to this interesting article: https://www.latimes.com/local/great-reads/la-me-c1-tarof-20150706-story.html
― Apollo and the Aqueducts (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 23 May 2022 14:44 (one year ago) link
It seems that the star of About Elly, Golshifteh Farahani, is mostly making films in exile in France these days, including a really terrible love triangle thing I recently tried to watch called Two Friends directed by Alfred's crush Louis Garrel.
― Apollo and the Aqueducts (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 23 May 2022 15:23 (one year ago) link
Not the same film, butNever Coming to a Theater Near You - Arthouse Cinema 2016
Louis Garrel's directorial debut may be the worst feature i've endured in the last several years― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Monday, March 7, 2016 2:18 PM (six years ago)
― Apollo and the Aqueducts (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 23 May 2022 15:25 (one year ago) link
Think my take on Farhadi is close to Bilge Ebiri’s.
― Apollo and the Aqueducts (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 01:43 (one year ago) link
really liked About Elly
― Dan S, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 01:53 (one year ago) link
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/11/07/did-the-oscar-winning-director-asghar-farhadi-steal-ideas
― Regex Dwight (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 31 October 2022 21:40 (one year ago) link
Also this: https://www.indiewire.com/2022/10/jafar-panahi-and-mohammad-rasoulof-tear-gassed-in-iran-prison-fire-1234772987/
― Regex Dwight (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 31 October 2022 22:04 (one year ago) link
Search: The Runner!
― Me and the Major on the Moon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 14 November 2022 00:48 (one year ago) link
I hadn't heard about the plagiarism case prior to reading that article, but it seemed quite damning. Although this quote from an erstwhile collaborator makes sense:
"If you ask me—as a person who hasn’t seen either ‘A Hero’ or the documentary but just knows the guy extremely well—this is not plagiarism. Asghar is far too intelligent and interesting as an artist, as a writer, to do something like that. This is him wanting control over authorship. It’s a character flaw.”
Everyone in the article is just like "Look, I don't care that you took my idea, just acknowledge that you did it." And he won't.
― jaymc, Monday, 14 November 2022 00:55 (one year ago) link
Found that article totally fascinating for the same reason, the fact that other figures in the industry were so willing to go on the record to basically say, "Haha, yeah, of course he passed off her work as 100% his creation, that's just how he is."
― intheblanks, Monday, 14 November 2022 03:26 (one year ago) link
Didn’t really read that article until just now and it was indeed fascinating and kind of painful to read. To me it is as if the hero with the “broken smile” of The Hero is kind of an obvious DO U SEE? shadow self for Farhadi.
― Me and the Major on the Moon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 14 November 2022 06:05 (one year ago) link
Bahram Beyzaeie's Downpour, on the third World Cinema Project box, is a really excellent comedy.
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 14 November 2022 11:23 (one year ago) link
Are you saying that because you know he edited The Runner?
― Me and the Major on the Moon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 14 November 2022 11:56 (one year ago) link
New Jafar Panahi is good, believe the hype!
― A Kestrel for a Neve (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 1 January 2023 05:12 (one year ago) link
Panahi on hunger strike. This is sickening!
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 3 February 2023 15:27 (one year ago) link
it's pretty horrible.
― And Your Borad Can Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 3 February 2023 15:33 (one year ago) link
Apparently he's just been released from jail?
― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 3 February 2023 18:25 (one year ago) link
Great news!
― And Your Borad Can Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 3 February 2023 18:27 (one year ago) link
Now what about Mohammad Rasoulof?
― And Your Borad Can Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 3 February 2023 18:28 (one year ago) link
Rasoulof has apparently been out for a month: https://www.theguardian.com/film/2023/feb/03/iranian-film-maker-jafar-panahi-released-on-bail-after-hunger-strike
― Frederik B, Friday, 3 February 2023 19:19 (one year ago) link
About to watch Samira Makhmalbaf’s THE APPLE and came across this about her dad’s little film school which she attended:https://www.sensesofcinema.com/2002/filmmaker-profiles/makhmalbaf/
― The Windows of the URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 12 February 2023 20:40 (one year ago) link
Not an Iranian film, but Golshifteh Farahani is really good in the film known in English as ARAB BLUES.
― after the pinefox (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 00:39 (one year ago) link
Movie is kind of broad and she plays a French-Tunisian rather thn a French-Irani but her perfomance is still good.
― after the pinefox (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 00:59 (one year ago) link
Just finally watched Rasoulof’s There Is No Evil before it leaves MUBI. It is indeed very long but the first and last sections both make it worth your time.
― Think Fast, Mr. Mojo Risin’ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 March 2023 06:10 (one year ago) link