Those Brits sure love their Thatcher

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MAYBE THEY COULD USE THE STATUE AS A GIANT ANT

Mike Hanle y, Monday, 4 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Pondering Robin's ambivalence I am belatedly beginning to sympathise with the Ricks of the 80s who screamed 'FASCIST!'. I'm thinking of the turn of the century futurists and all their pro-technology progressivism yoked to fascist ideology. I'm all for shaking things up but given a choice I think I'd rather stick with paternalistic One Nation Toryism.

N., Tuesday, 5 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

paternalistic Toryism = deferential patriotic methodist "old" labourism = one nation stuck in a rut

forget where i read it, but anyway, a transcription of a TV debate between roy hattersley and enoch powell
powell says something breath-takingly reactionary.
"oh come on, enoch, we're not still living in the 19th century!!"
"Oh yessss," hisses Powell, the brummy gollum, "but we aaaaaaare!!"

OK, well now we aren't. Now we're living in 1909.

mark s, Tuesday, 5 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

1909. No one ever talks about 1909. What happened in 1909?

[consults book....]

NOTHING HAPPENED IN 1909.

N., Tuesday, 5 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

hah!! you see!!

mark s, Tuesday, 5 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I tell a lie. The Girl Guides were founded and there was a general strike in Sweden.

N., Tuesday, 5 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

In 1909 Schoenberg completed Erwartung and thus revolutionised music for the rest of the century.

Terry Shannon, Tuesday, 5 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

also cook and peary said they'd been to the north pole, except they hadn't (also peary's assistant hanson's toes all came off from the cold)

mark s, Tuesday, 5 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

three years pass...
Thatcher the Victorian Liberal?

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Monday, 30 January 2006 11:25 (eighteen years ago) link

"Natural Tories don't have immutable ideological beliefs. They tend to be natural administrators, who won't find time to sit around theorising."

this is bush. really: administrating *what*? already you're confronted with the need to theorize what a government *does*. obviously thatcher cleaved to liberal economic orthodoxy, but in terms of character she was far closer to disraeli's popular jingoistic toryism. not that the analogy really works because no victorian politician would have contemplated the level of public spending (and taxation) that has been the norm since ww1.

The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Monday, 30 January 2006 11:33 (eighteen years ago) link

God, I was reading about Thatcher as a John Bright / Richard Cobden heir back in 1991 on A-level politics.

Dave B (daveb), Monday, 30 January 2006 12:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Thatcher: The Musical

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 30 January 2006 12:08 (eighteen years ago) link

(NB: this must be the thread we revive when, y'know, *it* happens...)

according to the thing about drinking politicians on bbc4 last night, thatch can put 'em away with the best of them...

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Monday, 30 January 2006 16:51 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...

My god I want to schtup the chick playing Thatcher on C4 right now.

The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Thursday, 12 June 2008 21:11 (fifteen years ago) link

*BBC4

The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Thursday, 12 June 2008 21:12 (fifteen years ago) link

in character? it would be some sort of ultimate hatefuck

Just got offed, Thursday, 12 June 2008 21:15 (fifteen years ago) link

MAYBE THEY COULD USE THE STATUE AS A GIANT ANT
-- Mike Hanle y, Sunday, February 3, 2002 8:00 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Link

LOL as always.

Eisbaer, Thursday, 12 June 2008 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link

: /

Bodrick III, Thursday, 12 June 2008 21:18 (fifteen years ago) link

My god I want to schtup the chick playing Thatcher on C4 right now.

-- The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics

in character? it would be some sort of ultimate hatefuck

-- Just got offed

I knew I shouldn't have clicked on this thread.

King Boy Pato, Friday, 13 June 2008 05:07 (fifteen years ago) link

So, was this produced by The Comic Strip as a follow-up to "Strike" and "GLC"?

It Sure Looks Like It.

(did not watch. I mean! ComeOn!

Mark G, Friday, 13 June 2008 08:39 (fifteen years ago) link

So, was this produced by The Comic Strip as a follow-up to "Strike" and "GLC"

eh? really?! i'm amazed anyone can even remember 'GLC'.

piscesx, Friday, 13 June 2008 08:52 (fifteen years ago) link

What is it with the BBC? Is this the best their drama department can come up with these days? Hughie Green, Bob Monkhouse, Mary Whitehouse, Margaret Thatcher. Lazy television.

Tom D., Friday, 13 June 2008 08:56 (fifteen years ago) link

But cheap.

Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 13 June 2008 10:42 (fifteen years ago) link

And it gets them a guaranteed two page spread in the broadsheet "extra" sections for each episode

The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Friday, 13 June 2008 10:43 (fifteen years ago) link

What is it with the BBC? Is this the best their drama department can come up with these days? Hughie Green, Bob Monkhouse, Mary Whitehouse, Margaret Thatcher. Lazy television.

it's not lazy television, it's just that you're getting old. The BBC have always made dramas about the lives of people in the past, it's just now the people of the past are people who were very much part of our present.

Grandpont Genie, Friday, 13 June 2008 10:45 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't agree, this smacks of chucking a couple of biographies at a writer and saying "Go away and write something on this person who was famous once, but don't worry too much about it, any old bollocks will do as long as you manage to shoehorn some sex into it." It's commissioned crap from writers who obv. don't have any interest in the subject.

Tom D., Friday, 13 June 2008 10:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Unless there are many young and talented writers out there with a burning desire to write about Hughie Green's sexlife, who knows?

Tom D., Friday, 13 June 2008 10:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Tom OTM, five years ago it was all "lol let's do a comedy drama about something that happened in Parliament 6 months ago" now it's all "lol 50s and 60s nostalgia be mad popular".

Noodle Vague, Friday, 13 June 2008 11:02 (fifteen years ago) link

you can avoid worrying about this by getting rid of yer telly.

Pashmina, Friday, 13 June 2008 11:03 (fifteen years ago) link

I only use it for films, sport, Doctor Who and University Challenge.

But you're not seriously doing the "people who complain about one aspect of a medium should never engage with any aspect of that medium" switcheroonie are you Pash?

Noodle Vague, Friday, 13 June 2008 11:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Bit drastic Pash

Tom D., Friday, 13 June 2008 11:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Also I would also like to use it for well-written original one-off drama but unfortunately the BBC is run by cocks.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 13 June 2008 11:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Apparently at one time this stuff was well popular but it doesn't fit so well around BBC3's RITALIN NEWS MINUTE, ALL EPILEPSY ALL THE TIME

Noodle Vague, Friday, 13 June 2008 11:06 (fifteen years ago) link

I know these biodocs are usually on BBC4 but fuck knows why, really.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 13 June 2008 11:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Should probably have a poll on which former Carry On team regular is due next.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 13 June 2008 11:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Would consider watching The Bernard Bresslaw Story is they got Will Self in to play him.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 13 June 2008 11:09 (fifteen years ago) link

Jim Dale: Lust for Glory

The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Friday, 13 June 2008 11:09 (fifteen years ago) link

Tommy Cooper. Benny Hill. Enoch Powell. Peter Knowles. It could go on for a lot longer yet.

Tom D., Friday, 13 June 2008 11:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Pills, Thrills 'n' Butterworth

Noodle Vague, Friday, 13 June 2008 11:10 (fifteen years ago) link

But you're not seriously doing the "people who complain about one aspect of a medium should never engage with any aspect of that medium" switcheroonie are you Pash?

Nah, not at all. I mean, if there's still stuff you enjoy, fine, you knoq? There's v v little that makes me want to get TV again though. I can't think of anything recently, last thing was "Nathan Barley" and I wound up watching that on "Youtube" More often you see some cobblers like this trailed in the papers & think fuck this, god I'm glad we got rid of it. It's good not to give a fuck about it! (I only posted on this thread because I did notice this prog in the listings) Really, I'd recommend anyone to try running without it for a year & see how you get on.

Pashmina, Friday, 13 June 2008 11:11 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm assuming they're waiting for either Bewes or Bolam to cark it before they do the inevitable dramatisation of their falling out.

The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Friday, 13 June 2008 11:11 (fifteen years ago) link

"knoq" = "know"

"knoq", haha

Pashmina, Friday, 13 June 2008 11:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Would watch Peter Knowles just for the accents. I remember years ago when they did a Bridgewater 4 biodoc and I was so happy to see West Midlands accents not being played for lulz.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 13 June 2008 11:14 (fifteen years ago) link

I lived without a TV for a year or so once when I was single and carefree and my body could handle multiple days of being drunk.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 13 June 2008 11:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Dr Who is basically nostalgia drama

ken c, Friday, 13 June 2008 11:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Science fiction

The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Friday, 13 June 2008 11:34 (fifteen years ago) link

with the occasional 51st century thrown in

ken c, Friday, 13 June 2008 11:34 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost

I've seen that, challops-boy.

Don't agree about Doctor Who being nostalgia, really. I liked it when I was a kid, but not for the same reasons I like it now.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 13 June 2008 11:35 (fifteen years ago) link

twice in one day?? what are the chances

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Friday, 6 February 2009 17:43 (fifteen years ago) link

I used to like HSK in that sitcom based in Glasgow(?) but when he was on celebrity apprentice (i think it was) he was tremendously annoying.

xp
Obviously this apology is completely meaningless. He meant precisely what he said. His fans will know that he apologised with a twinkle in his eye, and probably agree with him anyway, he gets a shitload of publicity for his crappy tv programme and the bbc ratings go up. Everyone wins.

The Unbelievably Insensitive Baroness Vadera (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 6 February 2009 17:51 (fifteen years ago) link

The Hardeep geezer is, indeed, annoying. He is not totally without wit, but his superior tone is bad.

the pinefox, Friday, 6 February 2009 17:53 (fifteen years ago) link

apparently The One Show had it's second best ever ratings yesterday

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Friday, 6 February 2009 18:00 (fifteen years ago) link

I like that programme where he patronises kids. That's about his level.

The Unbelievably Insensitive Baroness Vadera (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 6 February 2009 18:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Singh that is not Chiles.

The Unbelievably Insensitive Baroness Vadera (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 6 February 2009 18:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Adrian Chiles is just awful, I hate his miserabilist everyman act.

jel --, Friday, 6 February 2009 18:27 (fifteen years ago) link

According to insiders, Thatcher – who won ITV1 reality series I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here! in 2005 – was chatting with The One Show host Adrian Chiles and guest Jo Brand about the Australian Open when she described an unnamed player as a "golliwog".

It is thought she was referring to Jo-Wilfried Tsonga of France, who went out of the competition in the quarter finals.

Apparently it has not been mentioned here, but it is now (in many quarters) believed she was actually talking about Gael Monfils of France, who went out of the competition in the 8th finals. No less a stupid & offensive thing to say obv, if this is the case, but a bit more ahem "understandable" in the "but Ronaldinho HAS large teeth" vein.

anatol_merklich, Sunday, 8 February 2009 00:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Um, those dolls at Sandringham looked like..
http://images.theage.com.au/ftage/ffximage/2008/06/05/zzMonfils_narrowweb__300x422,0.jpg

...?

Mark G, Monday, 9 February 2009 01:19 (fifteen years ago) link

..right?

Mark G, Monday, 9 February 2009 10:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Adrian Chiles is one of the few TV presenters I would happily leave my children with for the day. If I had children, that is.

Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Monday, 9 February 2009 10:30 (fifteen years ago) link

myleene Klass? Although she seems quite busy...

Mark G, Monday, 9 February 2009 10:31 (fifteen years ago) link

i'd leave my kids with her alright.

special guest stars mark bronson, Monday, 9 February 2009 10:33 (fifteen years ago) link

What does that even mean?

NotEnough, Monday, 9 February 2009 11:04 (fifteen years ago) link

NotEnough knowledge of vulgar slang, morelike

am I selling cardamom or am I selling thyme (DJ Mencap), Monday, 9 February 2009 11:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Um, those dolls at Sandringham looked like..
...?
..right?

Awp. Should probably not have said anything but.... what first took me aback with CT's original remark (APART FROM THE OBV)

anatol_merklich, Saturday, 14 February 2009 03:27 (fifteen years ago) link

oops tab enter

Awp. Should probably not have said anything but.... what first took me aback with CT's original remark (APART FROM THE OBV) was that apart from CT not yet having entered the post-colonial age apparently -- -- -- Tsonga? Wtf. It seems way unlikely. Dude is a BLOCK of a man, not at all ragdolly! Gael Force at least has spiky comicbook hair. Hence I found that story more credible.

anatol_merklich, Saturday, 14 February 2009 03:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Sprinter Dwain Chambers is to make a formal complaint to the BBC after he was the victim of an abusive prank call by the comedian Iain Lee during a phone-in on Radio 5 Live. Lee, who appears regularly on BBC1's One Show, rang a phone-in hosted by Victoria Derbyshire on Monday and, posing as a member of the public called 'Tony', accused Chambers, who served a two-year ban for taking performance-enhancing drugs, of being "whacked up to the eyeballs on goof balls".

Encouraged by Derbyshire to air his strident views, 'Tony' then subjected the sprinter to a vitriolic rant, referring to the "goof balls and whack balls" he put into his bloodstream and finishing with the statement: "I'm going to buy your book and I'm going to burn your book without reading it."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/athletics/4582698/Dwain-Chambers-demands-BBC-apology-over-prank-call.html

James Mitchell, Saturday, 14 February 2009 20:02 (fifteen years ago) link

I do wonder on whose side the Daily Mail crew will be on that last one. Will they be able to pass up another chance to have a go at the Beeb's lax standards, or will they want to go for the throat of a notorious drug cheat who possesses the wrong colour of skin for their tastes?

That's what you'd call a real ethical dilemma for them. It would almost be entertaining to watch them wrestle with it.

Stone Monkey, Saturday, 14 February 2009 20:37 (fifteen years ago) link

fucking hell iain lee is a massive prick and really needs to bury himself alive out of shame.
why this prickhole is on the one show i dont know.

Henry Frog (Frogman Henry), Saturday, 14 February 2009 20:40 (fifteen years ago) link

GHOSTBUSTERS 2 LOL

Henry Frog (Frogman Henry), Saturday, 14 February 2009 20:43 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, iain lee is a dude who doesn't really need to exist

Bonkers candy, the Nabisco candy (stevie), Saturday, 14 February 2009 22:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Never mind that the tactics they used to destroy The One Show’s reporter Carol Thatcher were reminiscent of the old East German Stasi, under whose rule people who refused to do and say what they were told were destroyed.

Brilliance, just absolute brilliance.

The Loneliness of the Middle Order Batsman (King Boy Pato), Sunday, 15 February 2009 01:12 (fifteen years ago) link

marcello has a column in a tabloid now?

Bonkers candy, the Nabisco candy (stevie), Sunday, 15 February 2009 12:27 (fifteen years ago) link

six months pass...

An administrative blunder under the Thatcher government that has only just come to light has opened the door for retailers to sell unauthorised DVDs and video games, including banned films and pornography, to anyone, including under-age children without legal threat.

The Crown Prosecution Service has been told to drop cases relating to offences under the Video Recordings Act, which imposes statutory requirements for videos, DVDs and some video games to be classified and age-rated by the British Board of Film Classification.

The Conservative government’s apparent failure to notify the European Union of the existence of the VRA in 1984 means that the legislation is no longer enforceable in the UK.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/5ae7b4c4-90f1-11de-bc99-00144feabdc0.html

James Mitchell, Monday, 24 August 2009 22:22 (fourteen years ago) link

UK now officially better than US

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Monday, 24 August 2009 22:33 (fourteen years ago) link

shit I'd better get a shopping list together for you guys

nate dogg is a feeling (HI DERE), Monday, 24 August 2009 22:36 (fourteen years ago) link

it's there already, it just has big fuck-off circles covering everything, or so i'm led to believe.

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Monday, 24 August 2009 22:44 (fourteen years ago) link

We already have a perfectly workable system in place whereby 7 year-olds just tell their parents to buy GTA for them in Gamestation.

Someone left the cape out in the rain (Noodle Vague), Monday, 24 August 2009 23:02 (fourteen years ago) link

and wait ouside, smoking a fag

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Monday, 24 August 2009 23:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh dear:

"This must be a massive embarrassment to the Tories, especially as David Cameron was the special adviser to the home secretary in 1993 when the law was amended."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8219438.stm

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 04:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Wow, can't wait to hit Dixons or Woolworths and stock up on some banned VHS tapes now.

JTS, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 09:48 (fourteen years ago) link

"This must be a massive embarrassment to the Tories, especially as David Cameron was the special adviser to the home secretary in 1993 when the law was amended."

Yeah right. Because Cameron has shown real signs of being electorally hindered by everything the Tories did in the 80s and 90s.

Tuncay Stryder (Matt DC), Tuesday, 25 August 2009 09:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Still not dead?

Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 August 2009 10:23 (fourteen years ago) link


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