― Lindsey B, Monday, 12 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 21 November 2002 15:03 (twenty-one years ago) link
Since I love Tusk and I love Camper Van Beethoven, I thought "Well, CVB covering the entirety of Tusk should be great, then!". Unfortunately, this isn't the case. I'll give it a few more spins, but it was pretty disappointing. And don't be suckered in by the lure of multi-media content - it's kind of lame. There's not even any interface - just files. And there's even a file on there, left apparently by mistake, which (if you open it in a text editor) will show you the web browser history for the computer on which it was made (incl. some p0rn sites, *laugh*). C'mon people, that's just sloppy.
― Ernest P. (ernestp), Thursday, 21 November 2002 16:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
If it's FM in general that interests you, I'd go for the albums, as there's a whole pile of great non-radio tracks. Rumours (which at least they spelled correctly!) is the obvious starting point (that won't disappoint). Followed--controversial opinion alert!--by Tango in the Night (new agey, almost afro-poppish, with lots of synths--contains Nicks's awesome "Seven Wonders"), Fleetwood Mac (s/t), Mirage, and that's as far as I get. I'm willing to believe that Tusk is as good as some people say it is because the title track is magnificent--last time I heard it it reminded me of 112's "Dance With Me."
― s woods, Thursday, 21 November 2002 16:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 21 November 2002 23:05 (twenty-one years ago) link
Destroy: "Little Lies", "Seven Wonders", "Big Love" (original version), "Tusk" (the song), "Stop Dragging My Heart Around" [Stevie Nicks w/ Tom Petty]
― Joe (Joe), Thursday, 21 November 2002 23:14 (twenty-one years ago) link
― (doorag), Friday, 22 November 2002 02:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sean (Sean), Friday, 22 November 2002 02:55 (twenty-one years ago) link
― s woods, Friday, 22 November 2002 03:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
Destroy: "Dreams," "Don't Stop," "The Chain," etc.
― Burr, Friday, 22 November 2002 05:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
― paul cox (paul cox), Friday, 22 November 2002 06:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
And of course all of Tusk is fab.
― gazza, Friday, 22 November 2002 06:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
alternatively wait for the next uncut wherein i review the current greatest hits comp.
― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 22 November 2002 08:18 (twenty-one years ago) link
Believe me, I have been.
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 22 November 2002 08:19 (twenty-one years ago) link
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 22 November 2002 08:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 22 November 2002 08:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 22 November 2002 12:49 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Clarke B., Thursday, 23 January 2003 09:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 23 January 2003 09:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 23 January 2003 10:48 (twenty-one years ago) link
Must go and buy Tusk.
― mms (mms), Thursday, 23 January 2003 11:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
― christoff (christoff), Thursday, 23 January 2003 15:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
D: most of the rest.
― DavidM (DavidM), Thursday, 23 January 2003 18:33 (twenty-one years ago) link
― nickn (nickn), Friday, 24 January 2003 01:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
― David Gunnip (David Gunnip), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 15:03 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sean (Sean), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 22:40 (twenty years ago) link
― Joe (Joe), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 22:50 (twenty years ago) link
― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 23:06 (twenty years ago) link
― Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 00:35 (twenty years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 00:38 (twenty years ago) link
― the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 00:45 (twenty years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 00:47 (twenty years ago) link
― the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 00:48 (twenty years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 00:51 (twenty years ago) link
― Baaderist (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 06:17 (twenty years ago) link
i seem to remember smog doing a great cover of it for a peel session once, but i can't find it right now.
― Bob Shaw (Bob Shaw), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 09:02 (twenty years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 27 May 2004 18:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Clarke B. (Clarke B.), Saturday, 29 May 2004 16:11 (nineteen years ago) link
Listen to John on the outro to "Say That You Love Me"! Listen to that fucker start to get all "rococo" and shit yet bet completely 100% in that fucking beat. God, he was unbelievably great. Him and Mick. What a rhythm section. Unreal in their kick-assness.
― Broheems (diamond), Sunday, 30 May 2004 09:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― the surface noise made by people (electricsound), Sunday, 30 May 2004 09:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― Broheems (diamond), Sunday, 30 May 2004 09:21 (nineteen years ago) link
Tusk is one of the five greatest rock and roll albums of all time, probably only second to After the Goldrush and maybe Radio City.
Then Play On is also great - I bought that record a few years ago and to this day it is the ONLY record my girl has ever stolen from me. "It's mine," she said, plainly, and it remains in her collection as we speak.
Rmours is also brilliant, duh. Search the "Classic Albums" DVD of Rumours (Aja too, while you're at it, but that's another thread). Search all the Peter Green era records.
After Mirage, the records are all spotty but ALL contain a few songs worth the dollar or two you'll pay for the vinyl. Lindsey Buckingham is one of my all time favorite guitarists - so imaginative, ambitious, and just a tad insane.
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 30 May 2004 18:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― dleone (dleone), Monday, 31 May 2004 06:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― Broheems (diamond), Monday, 31 May 2004 07:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― the surface noise made by people (electricsound), Monday, 31 May 2004 07:18 (nineteen years ago) link
you are right about the production. I think I could write a whole book about it, had I a flair for language. But, allow me to highlight (these are a couple PRODUCTION highlights [as Jim said]; I take the technical musical performances of Mick, John, Christine and Lindsey as read):
- the backing vocals. It's like some kind of psychedelic doo-wop!! Seriously, those voices that start low in the mix, and come in and go "Come .. on .. and" "Hold me!" Wow.
Like, Lindsey is all like, yeah, I've got your doo-wop right here! How do you like THESE backing vocals?
- but, the ultimate point in the song, both song-writing and production-wise, is the breakdown that occurs at about the 2:30 mark, after Linsey's brilliant solo ends .. a total breakdown, with nothing but Christine's pristine piano and Lindsey beautiful acoustic guitar. WOW!!!!!!!
(actually, an even better thing about the pure PRODUCTION of this cut, is the way that acoustic guitar sort of creeps into the mix at about the 2:00 mark --- just listen to that acoustic guitar start strumming those chords behind Lindsey's solo ... and seconds later, there comes that great breakdown with the piano/acoustic-guitar bliss)
and then of course Lindsey's great finger-picking outro solo .. and boo-yah
best band ever
― Broheems (diamond), Monday, 31 May 2004 07:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Broheems (diamond), Monday, 31 May 2004 07:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― dleone (dleone), Monday, 31 May 2004 07:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― the surface noise made by people (electricsound), Monday, 31 May 2004 07:41 (nineteen years ago) link
Played "Trouble" from Lindsey's solo Law and Order a few weeks back and it sounded damn good....
Once was going through donations for the Record Fair and had SO many copies of Tusk I actually made a Box of Tusk! 3 bucks a pop and they all went too, so, there ya go.
― Brian Turner (btwfmu), Monday, 31 May 2004 19:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― c7n (Cozen), Sunday, 30 October 2005 17:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― c7n (Cozen), Sunday, 30 October 2005 17:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― joe schmoe (joeschmoe), Sunday, 30 October 2005 22:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 30 October 2005 22:45 (eighteen years ago) link
Lots and lots of talk about FM, post-75. But let's give the revival an explicit twist:
Pre-Buckingham-Nicks Fleetwood Mac: S/D
― Mitya (mitya), Friday, 17 March 2006 04:59 (eighteen years ago) link
It's a shame that the revival never took off, as I might have gotten Future Games earlier.
It's really crazy...every time I think I've heard everything worth hearing by Fleetwood Mac, it turns out that I overlooked something. Anyway, Future Games: their prog rock, Pink Floyd-y album. Long songs, heavy Kirwan influence. I kind of wish they'd had another album or two in this vein (bits of Bare Trees fit that description, but only bits). Still trying to decide whether I prefer the title track, Woman of 1000 Years or Sands of Time.
I'm kind of sad that it looks (at least now) like the Fleetwood Mac reissue program is over. I'd kill to have Then Play On, Kiln House, Bare Trees, Future Games, and Mystery To Me remastered w/bonus tracks. (Also the sound of my Future Games CD is a little muddy...wonder if that's how the vinyl was or if remastering would help. On the other hand, the muddy sound does add to the spacy vibe, so maybe it's not all bad.)
As far as the question of Pre Buckingham-Nicks S/D, the answer as far as I can tell is that pretty much everything is essential. Haven't found an album yet that I don't like, and am now working on live stuff, boots, etc. Maybe the Live In Chicago isn't so hot, but I haven't heard that since I was like 12.
― dlp9001, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 00:35 (sixteen years ago) link
How fortunate you revived this, cuz I was gonna post:
Fleetwood Mac Plots Return -- With Or Without Crow
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 00:37 (sixteen years ago) link
i'm certainly interested - i still think say you will was a great return to form
― electricsound, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 00:42 (sixteen years ago) link
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUU, YOU MAKE LOVING FUN!
― youcangoyourownway, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 00:45 (sixteen years ago) link
I love this band, hence my name.
I wish LB had done more outside producing
I wonder how much money you'd have to throw at him to get him to produce an album
― J0hn D., Wednesday, 26 March 2008 01:21 (sixteen years ago) link
Sheryl Crow? Yuck.
I have Future Games on vinyl and yes I recall it having a muddy sound.
― Bimble, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 01:22 (sixteen years ago) link
John, you were born too late. Had you been hanging around John Stewart in the late seventies, you could even have gotten Stevie to sing harmonies!
(however, how the fuck Dream Academy got him to produce and play on a track will remain a mystery. Anyone got stories?)
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 01:23 (sixteen years ago) link
i don't reckon he'd be that expensive - it doesn't seem like he's ever been in demand (or is he just not a gun for hire?)
― electricsound, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 01:24 (sixteen years ago) link
Buckingham seems like the kind of guy who, after hearing your demos, would mumble, "Mm, yeah, great, lemme think about it," then not return your phone calls for months. Meanwhile, he's adding eight million guitar overdubs and crazy harmonies.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 01:26 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah I think the deal with Buckingham as producer would be you'd have to cede total control to him. not all producers are like that and most artists can't handle it because they have been raised to think that The Artist must have The Vision etc
maybe I should call Lindsay up though and see if he's got some time in June
― J0hn D., Wednesday, 26 March 2008 01:32 (sixteen years ago) link
This sounds like a shot at Dream Academy. I like Dream Academy!
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 26 March 2008 01:44 (sixteen years ago) link
Anyway, Future Games: their prog rock, Pink Floyd-y album. Long songs, heavy Kirwan influence. I kind of wish they'd had another album or two in this vein
you've heard the drogonfly single, right? recorded right after welch joined i think. so spacey. the welch/kirwan lineup is my favorite
― gershy, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 01:57 (sixteen years ago) link
please do this
― electricsound, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 02:19 (sixteen years ago) link
i note that he is now label-less as well. another job for four a d?
Linsey Buckingham is label-less? That's outrageous, unless it's by choice. Was it?
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 26 March 2008 02:22 (sixteen years ago) link
oh, i guess dragonfly was before welch joined, i was fooled by that youtube video. great song anyway
― gershy, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 02:25 (sixteen years ago) link
Ok I worship the band. But whoever wrote that 1995's Buckingham/Nicksless Time was worthwhile owes me the 60:19 that allmusic says it took me to listen to this Olive Garden rock. Seriously - remember that $15/plate dinner you had after some boring milestone in your life? The one with funky breadsticks, the "authentic" entrée created by corporate committee, the glass of wine you didn't like much but drank anyway cuz it conferred class upon you? No? Exactly! That's this album which even Mick and the McVies probably don't remember, though I bet Dave Mason and Bekka Bramlett (who learned little from ma and pa) have fond memories. So, yeah destroy.
Now watch - some freakshow will come out of the fleetwoodwork and tell us we're missing out on the good vibrations from Behind the Mask.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 04:16 (sixteen years ago) link
you know i don't even think i've heard a single note of behind the mask or time. burnette and vito can eat my asshole tbh
― electricsound, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 04:22 (sixteen years ago) link
It'd probably taste better than this album.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 04:25 (sixteen years ago) link
ba-da-dum. *cymbal crash*
― Bimble, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 04:35 (sixteen years ago) link
Here's a question for people more knowledgable about the Mac than I (ie, everyone): where is the awesome "Ricky" that Lovefingers posted way back from? I can't find it on any FM album, at least not with Allmusic.
― Telephone thing, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 05:17 (sixteen years ago) link
b-side of little lies?
http://rateyourmusic.com/release/single/fleetwood_mac/little_lies___ricky/?rate
― electricsound, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 05:19 (sixteen years ago) link
I've read good things about this new Buckingham live album.
― baaderonixx, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 08:58 (sixteen years ago) link
The two McVie singles from BTM are decent boilerplate ("Save Me" was actually a Top 40 hit).
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 13:12 (sixteen years ago) link
xpost. There's this video on Youtube of the Burnette and Vito band doing "Oh Well" that's kind of hard to watch.
― dlp9001, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 14:58 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fId2ZithE88&f
Have we seen this? I firmly believe this is the best thing McVie gave the universe.
― I know, right?, Thursday, 24 July 2008 23:29 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah that's nice. Sounds even more sad & desperate than the album version. I just wish they'd let us see her face, though.
― Bimble, Friday, 25 July 2008 15:57 (fifteen years ago) link
A pretty wonderful late Peter Green era concert has just popped up on Wolfgang's Vault. Early '70 in London. It sort of freaks me out how much neat stuff has surfaced on that site.
― dlp9001, Thursday, 26 February 2009 14:19 (fifteen years ago) link
https://www.instagram.com/p/CFkxv93JvR5/
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 03:18 (three years ago) link