carole king - singist or writer

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Has anyone ever heard her band, The City? I had a freind recommend a song called snow queen, but then I had another friend say it absolutely suck.

rug, Tuesday, 26 July 2005 23:44 (eighteen years ago) link

'The Snow Queen', as recorded by Roger Nichols and the Small Circle of Friends(the incredible meeting of psychedelia, the carpenters, 60's-70's LA scene, etc.), is marvellous. haven't heard The City's version, but it's a great song.

derrick (derrick), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 23:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Can you tell me more about Roger Nichols + the Small Circle of Friends?

Elisa (Elisa), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 00:12 (eighteen years ago) link

the best information i've found is at the rev-ola site: http://www.cherryred.co.uk/revola/artists/rogernicholscrrev86.htm

they've reissued the album, too.

derrick (derrick), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 04:43 (eighteen years ago) link

twelve years pass...

I just recently discovered The City -- it's a good album! No idea why she apparently wanted to bury it for so many years, apart from its initial commercial failure. I'd never heard the original versions of "Wasn't Born to Follow" or "That Old Sweet Roll."

two years pass...

One of the tunes from the album from The City just showed up on one of my algorithm playlists and it knocked me for a loop.

Three Hundred Pounds of Almond Joy (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 21:07 (four years ago) link

was the song 'snow queen,' by chance?

fauci wally (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 23:10 (four years ago) link

No, I thought you’d say that. “Now That Everything’s Been Said.”

Three Hundred Pounds of Almond Joy (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 01:32 (four years ago) link

that's the title track from their one album, which is a trip

fauci wally (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 02:17 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

Seems a late friend of ours created a nice playlist:

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1fVaWlPFDIJrtvoHukUMvz?si=RY1qdKliQguKP6SbBNtGDw

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 01:53 (three years ago) link

Created by Ρεμπετολογια, just in case you can’t transliterate.

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 02:05 (three years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Kudos to Carole and her Kingdom!

Working in the POLL Mine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 May 2021 01:56 (two years ago) link

He created lots and lots of great playlists. His year-by-year summaries from (I think) 1959 to about the mid-90s are indispensable. (After that he seems to lose interest.)

He was a dear friend of mine and is greatly missed.

On-topic: I go songwriter, but her albums are intermittently wonderful too.

"The Pus/Worm" by The Smiths (hardcore dilettante), Thursday, 13 May 2021 05:25 (two years ago) link

(xpost to JR&tB)

"The Pus/Worm" by The Smiths (hardcore dilettante), Thursday, 13 May 2021 05:26 (two years ago) link

Yes, I found and posted some of his artist playlists to some polls he participated in. I have seen his annual playlists before, they are amazingly long. I didn't know that you knew him, he seemed to be a great guy.

Working in the POLL Mine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 May 2021 14:01 (two years ago) link

I have a lot of trouble imagining someone calling her a better singer than writer.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 13 May 2021 16:36 (two years ago) link

Wait, what? Who said that?

Working in the POLL Mine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 May 2021 16:40 (two years ago) link

That's the question asked in this thread!

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 14 May 2021 01:08 (two years ago) link

HD: Did you know Ρεμπετολογια via CIUT by any chance?

clemenza, Friday, 14 May 2021 01:22 (two years ago) link

No, I played with him in bands of varying configurations here & there, the longest-lasting of which was a dive-bar cover band (which also included another ex-ilxor, weirdly) that was amazingly fun for what it was. I often wonder what might have become of us if we had actually rehearsed, or even made sure we knew songs all the way through before attempting to play them.

For the past decade-plus we just chatted about music & stuff whenever we saw each other, a few times a year, never enough. He was like the musical id and superego of Calgary for the past 25 years, never the ego.

When I went on a big Carole King kick a few years back he was just, “oh yeah, you might want to check out this playlist I made”

His Jamerson playlist is also a cornucopia.

Fuck cancer.

"The Pus/Worm" by The Smiths (hardcore dilettante), Friday, 14 May 2021 04:46 (two years ago) link

Hmm. I didn't notice any Jamerson playlist.

Working in the POLL Mine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 14 May 2021 15:23 (two years ago) link

Bit sad, ‘pears to be gone.

"The Pus/Worm" by The Smiths (hardcore dilettante), Saturday, 15 May 2021 05:27 (two years ago) link

Yeah the question is a bit daft, she’s an incredible songwriter, but she’s also charming as a singer imho there’s a homely quality to it, feels like you’re listening to a family member singing in the living room.

It’s specially refreshing when compared to modern studio pop vocals which sound heavily manipulated and polished.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 15 May 2021 16:41 (two years ago) link

Yes, exactly.

Working in the POLL Mine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 15 May 2021 17:24 (two years ago) link

It’s akin to the “Bob Dylan’s more of a songwriter than a singer” line if not “Bob’s no musician.”

Working in the POLL Mine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 16 May 2021 21:33 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/01/arts/music/toni-stern-dead.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/01/arts/music/toni-stern-dead.html?unlocked_article_code=1.UU0.JgSS.2jT9mm2joEnQ&smid=url-share

Toni Stern, a breezy young Californian who became a trusted lyricist for Carole King, providing the words for the enduring standard “It’s Too Late” and many other songs during Ms. King’s flowering as a chart-topping solo artist, died on Jan. 17 at her home in Santa Ynez, Calif., near Santa Barbara. She was 79.

Her husband and only immediate survivor, Jerry Rounds, confirmed the death. He did not specify the cause.

Ms. Stern, a Los Angeles native, was an aspiring painter and poet living in Laurel Canyon, an enclave popular with the Los Angeles rock elite, in the late 1960s. It was there that she met Ms. King, who had moved west from New Jersey after a painful breakup with her husband and songwriting partner, Gerry Goffin, with whom she had formed one of the decade’s powerhouse hit-making duos.

The two hit it off immediately. “When I moved to California in 1968, she was the epitome of a free-spirited Laurel Canyon woman,” Ms. King wrote in a Facebook post after Ms. Stern’s death. “She lived in a hillside house with her dog, Arf, surrounded by books, record albums, plants and macramé.”

curmudgeon, Saturday, 10 February 2024 06:02 (two months ago) link

I saw that obituary - I've had that album for many years now, but I never looked further into the song credits (i.e. what each of that names actually did) so it was quite a surprise to find out that Stern wrote all the lyrics to its best new song. Given the personal nature of the whole album, I thought they were mostly King's.

birdistheword, Saturday, 10 February 2024 06:20 (two months ago) link

I was surprised to read that too

curmudgeon, Saturday, 10 February 2024 06:42 (two months ago) link

As I always do, played the Aretha/Kennedy Centre clip on her birthday yesterday for a grade 5 class.

clemenza, Saturday, 10 February 2024 14:26 (two months ago) link

That's a great clip

curmudgeon, Saturday, 10 February 2024 16:10 (two months ago) link


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