Why does Europe love CocoRosie so much?

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okay, i'll take that from hans. makes more sense that way. i'd never really thought about the song that hard. i really do have a problem with his voice. maybe if i heard other people sing his stuff i would like it more. ray charles did sail away didn't he? and hey i love mama told me not to come when three dog night does it! or the wolfgang press! (though nothing saves you can leave your hat on for me. certainly not joe cocker)

scott seward, Friday, 30 March 2007 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link

jamaica is full of sexually predatory drag queens, but dont worry 'cause most people like getting raped

max, Friday, 30 March 2007 18:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Rott OTM. Helped me understand this song. I never bought it as a mockery of the promises made by slavers, 'cuz I'm not aware that slaves were seduced in that manner (perhaps I'm wrong). But it makes lots of sense as a satire on the allure of American luxury to immigrants. Still, even in that context, the monkeys and watermelons imagery seems unnecessary, deliberately ugly. Maybe it's the worm in the apple? The reveal that the promise is predicated on an acceptance that will be denied? Dunno. But I admit I may have been too quick to condemn...

Pye Poudre, Friday, 30 March 2007 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Or, "what Scott said."

Pye Poudre, Friday, 30 March 2007 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link

the (awesome) live solo version of "leave your hat on" might actually do it for you - seriously all of his classic stuff, once you've correctly placed the narrator, is unstoppable

Hans Rott, Friday, 30 March 2007 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link

jamaica is full of sexually predatory drag queens, but dont worry 'cause most people like getting raped

if this is what they mean there, then I think the issue is less "racist" than "loopy" eh wot

Hans Rott, Friday, 30 March 2007 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

i am glad that we can use this shitty thread to find that eveyrone who isnt a total douche thinks randy newman is a genius

and what, Friday, 30 March 2007 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link

The Cocorosie song seems confused. A statement of some sort about exoticism and the appeal/terror of otherness. Collapses into groan-inducing cheese at the end, with the Iraq stuff. But they do such a good job of masking their intent, of making the confusion seem intentional, that it's almost totally butlletproof. WTF is the only response available.

Pye Poudre, Friday, 30 March 2007 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks, AW. Wouldn't be ILX without that ray of sunshine.

Pye Poudre, Friday, 30 March 2007 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link

You know what else is a great song is Louisiana 1927.

max, Friday, 30 March 2007 18:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I also really like Dixie Flyer, but a lot of people I know don't.

max, Friday, 30 March 2007 18:22 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.harrynilsson.com/images/newman.gif
best white ppl music ever?

and what, Friday, 30 March 2007 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link

see, there ya go. i would buy that album. i love harry nilsson.

scott seward, Friday, 30 March 2007 18:45 (seventeen years ago) link

i like the song "old man" off of sail away a lot.

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 30 March 2007 18:48 (seventeen years ago) link

"i am glad that we can use this shitty thread to find that eveyrone who isnt a total douche thinks randy newman is a genius"


fuck you. at least i explained WHY i don't like him. or more specifically his voice. and his shitty film work. what do you got? "randy pwnz, you suck". dillweed.

scott seward, Friday, 30 March 2007 18:56 (seventeen years ago) link

his disney songs make me feel old and depressed

rps, Friday, 30 March 2007 18:58 (seventeen years ago) link

how is his film work shitty? it's predictable maybe but I think it's decent enough! then again my personal history with randy newman is so long I'd probably defend anything he did

this is the post where I brag that, being very old, I saw him on the Good Old Boys tour only after he'd ditched the orchestra

Hans Rott, Friday, 30 March 2007 21:26 (seventeen years ago) link

unless I already did that, it's kinda late here

Hans Rott, Friday, 30 March 2007 21:26 (seventeen years ago) link

the Natural is fucking classic. Fucking classic.

max, Friday, 30 March 2007 21:27 (seventeen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
wow, new album only gets a 2.3 on pitchfork. way to go guys, take a BITE out of RACISM

modestmickey, Thursday, 19 April 2007 10:28 (seventeen years ago) link

It's really sad to me that white people always have these "vague" and "complicated" "relationships" with black people, and yet they very rarely live in an area that has a significant black population at all, and probably never will.

filthy dylan, Thursday, 19 April 2007 19:56 (seventeen years ago) link

^ lol

Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Thursday, 19 April 2007 20:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Way to generalize, filthy.

Mordechai Shinefield, Thursday, 19 April 2007 20:08 (seventeen years ago) link

CocoRosie is Pfork's new Joan of Arc?

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 19 April 2007 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link

UH doesn't CocoRosie live in NYC

Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Thursday, 19 April 2007 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Uh, it's not like NYC has a uniformly significant black population. It's plausible that CocoRosie could live in the city 24/7 and avoid any meaningful interaction with people who are not of the hip-oisie.

mark 0, Friday, 20 April 2007 07:32 (seventeen years ago) link

That pfork review is appalling. "Think Joanna Newsom with shittier pot and nobody to edit her"? Fuck off.

Ben Boyerrr, Friday, 20 April 2007 07:37 (seventeen years ago) link

fuck you. at least i explained WHY i don't like him. or more specifically his voice. and his shitty film work. what do you got? "randy pwnz, you suck". dillweed.

-- scott seward, Friday, March 30, 2007 11:56 AM (2 weeks ago)

classy

gershy, Friday, 20 April 2007 07:49 (seventeen years ago) link

It's something like Vitamin C's 1999 Top 40 hit "Graduation (Friends Forever)", only with neighing horses, buzzing synths, and Sierra's operatic soprano instead of Pachelbel-derived orchestral Radio Disney pomp/circumstance.


This sounds fantastic to me. Seriously, I would have bought the album on this quote alone.

But, I've been going to a lot of concerts in Belgium and of the people I've seen (LCD Soundsystem, Andrew Bird, Joanna Newsom, Akron/Family, Deerhoof, Clap Your Hands Say Yeah, Air) The only band that's been recognised more than once is Cocorosie. And everybody has been very jealous about that one. It was sold out. I mean, as far as I can tell, they're more famous than Air here.

I know, right?, Friday, 20 April 2007 09:33 (seventeen years ago) link

That quote is from the Pitchfork review btw.

I know, right?, Friday, 20 April 2007 09:33 (seventeen years ago) link

i've been on the fence because i've thought in the past that they had interesting ideas which at some point they might do something with, but the new album is just so...mediocre, so amateur, so comfortable in its refusal to make any kind of artistic progress, so hokey.

lex pretend, Friday, 20 April 2007 09:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Really? I think it has a kind of frazzled eight year old psychedelia that comes over really well.

I know, right?, Friday, 20 April 2007 09:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I think, rich kids in the attic, awaiting a genuine crisis, making fey and pretty tunes before the deluge. I should know. After the deluge, if they're not too rich to cushion it, we'll see what they've got. In the meantime, cute, fatuousl, smug.

moley, Friday, 20 April 2007 10:08 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah it has this air of..."sigh. do we need to write a melody here? make an effort to convey anything in our voices? hire a producer? ...nah, whatever."

lex pretend, Friday, 20 April 2007 10:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Who edits Joanna Newsom? I could do that job.

braveclub, Friday, 20 April 2007 10:32 (seventeen years ago) link

"Editor-at-large, Joanna Newsom"

braveclub, Friday, 20 April 2007 10:55 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...

I quite like the new album. The serious sister's vocals reminds me of one of the female vocalists on the Bows album a lot - and a lot of the music has that same ornate papery trip hop vibe too.

Tim F, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 01:02 (sixteen years ago) link

and isn't their last name Casady?...(not exactly the Bows LP title, but you get my drift)...

henry s, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 19:05 (sixteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...

http://hypem.com/track/550970

danbunny, Sunday, 18 May 2008 15:33 (fifteen years ago) link

ummmm

RabiesAngentleman, Sunday, 18 May 2008 16:44 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah,,umm

danbunny, Sunday, 18 May 2008 16:53 (fifteen years ago) link

so maybe it's better that Cocorosie at least kinda engage with (their weird blackness issues)

^^^kinda seriously questioning this

RabiesAngentleman, Sunday, 18 May 2008 17:02 (fifteen years ago) link

engage
enrage
engorge
dislodge
hodgepodge
resolve
implore

danbunny, Sunday, 18 May 2008 17:05 (fifteen years ago) link

i like th look of some of th orchestra players faces in that dutch video

danbunny, Sunday, 18 May 2008 17:06 (fifteen years ago) link


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