50 great things about Fleetwood Mac's "Tusk"

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You know, I've been listening to this this week, too. I was really convinced the other night that "The stars must be my friends to shine for me" was the greatest lyric ever.

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 7 April 2006 05:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Krupa, you got the deluxe edition? That "Farmer's Daughter" is one of *the* finest things Buckingham's ever done.

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 7 April 2006 05:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I used to always skip "Never Forget"; now I think it's absolutely necessary when you consider the bottomless sadness of "Brown Eyes" and "Never Make Me Cry."

The one dud is "Honey Hi."

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 7 April 2006 11:41 (eighteen years ago) link

honey hi is NOT A DUG.

― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Friday, 7 April 2006 14:57 (eighteen years ago) link

and by dug, i mean dud.

― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Friday, 7 April 2006 14:57 (eighteen years ago) link

http://images.webmagic.com/klov.com/screens/D/wDig_Dug.png

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 April 2006 14:59 (eighteen years ago) link

I burned all the Buckingham songs from tusk on a disc. It's pretty much the best e.p. ever. EVER.

― Will (will), Friday, 7 April 2006 15:30 (eighteen years ago) link

but having not heard the live album version I can't say. Anyone?

its the same one. and you should reaslly check out the live album, it's fantastic, for so many reasons... the coked out portraits on the inner gatefold, the noticeable lack-of-audience-reaction when Christine McVie introduces 'Over And Over' with a sort-of-mumbled "Well, we haven't played anything from Tusk yet... So..."... and the version of 'over and over' slays the album take, and there's a killer 'i'm so afraid' with this absolutely torturous guitar solo (lindsey goes shred!), and 'never going back again' and 'not that funny' and 'landslide' are all sublime in their own, wildly different ways...

― i am not a nugget (stevie), Friday, 7 April 2006 16:07 (eighteen years ago) link

The live version of "Not That Funny" with Lindsey cackling maniacally is frightening.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 7 April 2006 16:10 (eighteen years ago) link

You know, I've been listening to this this week, too. I was really convinced the other night that "The stars must be my friends to shine for me" was the greatest lyric ever.

And it likely is. But without her delivery...

― Porcupine Kiss, Novacaine Lips (Bimble...), Friday, 7 April 2006 19:29 (eighteen years ago) link

No actually I don't think there's a bad McVie song on this album.

― Porcupine Kiss, Novacaine Lips (Bimble...), Friday, 7 April 2006 19:37 (eighteen years ago) link

With the exception of "Honey Hi," nothing falls below her usual standards. I've always had a bigger problem with Nicks' "Angel" and "Sisters of the Moon," although I've softened on the latter, admiring the distorted power chords (credit to whoever noted this upthread).

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 7 April 2006 19:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Another cool thing on the live album: The guitar hero bad crazyness of "Oh Well"

― Chairman Doinel (Charles McCain), Saturday, 8 April 2006 17:24 (eighteen years ago) link

http://youtube.com/watch?v=yr227NHrFzg&search=tusk

― Chairman Doinel (Charles McCain), Saturday, 8 April 2006 17:28 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...

"Over and Over"...motherfuck.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Friday, 12 May 2006 04:21 (eighteen years ago) link

This entire album, as a matter of fact: GODDAMN.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Friday, 12 May 2006 04:27 (eighteen years ago) link

The drumming on "Sara", and the production thereof: GODDAMN.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Friday, 12 May 2006 04:30 (eighteen years ago) link

dude we need to bro out to it soon!

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 12 May 2006 04:34 (eighteen years ago) link

"The live version of "Not That Funny" with Lindsey cackling maniacally is frightening."

The place I had lunch at the other day has "Live" on their jukebox. I played this track, and MAN OH MAN was it great. Love the the drawn-out ending.

― Chairman Doinel (Charles McCain), Friday, 12 May 2006 16:27 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

This is the sort of stupid conspiracy theory that deserves to be ridiculed, but I occasionaly wonder if there's a Fleetwood Mac/Swans connection. Could probably come up w/more evidence if pressed, but off the top of my head:

Children of God=title of Swans album, cult that Jeremy Spencer joined
Beautiful Child=song on both albums
Sha la la la on "Brown Eyes" and on "Like A Drug (Sha La La La)"
Chord progression of Children of God is awfully close to a part of the marching band bit on Tusk, both songs founded on a drum motif.
Palindrome song title = "Sex, God, Sex" and "Over & Over"

...which is starting to stretch, but seriously, there's something about the plodding rhythms of much of Tusk and the ethereal backing vocals and the way tracks build up without much melodic development that makes me wonder if Gira spent some time listening to this when he was trying to figure out how to take Swans pop.

― dlp9001 (dlp9001), Thursday, 8 June 2006 15:38 (seventeen years ago) link

6. genius-like simplicity in songwriting, example #2: "that's all for everyone"

This is my new favorite song for this week. I'm also beginning to think this is one of the greatest albums ever made.

"Over & Over," btw, is a PERFECT way to begin the record. Gorgeous, reflective, amazingly well crafted ... and completely sane. Thereby making it completely misleading, as Lindsay and Stevie proceed to take the album into alien territory. Christine McVie ... sorely underrated. Pop genius to (almost) rival Lindsay's.

And a TS: "What Makes You Think You're the One" as is vs. the Christine-sung ballad arrangement I hear in my head.

― O'Connor (OConnorScribe), Thursday, 8 June 2006 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link

My head exploded in bliss as I imagined a hundred multitracked Christines singing "That's All for Everyone"

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Tusk really does inspire devotion among critic types, doesn't it? It's just one of those records that's endlessly fascinating. For anyone need of exhibit A of what music ciriticism used to be, check out Stephen Holden's review of the record from Rolling Stone -- he really nails the album and does a wonderful job of putting it cultural context

― O'Connor (OConnorScribe), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:47 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.geocities.com/musicfornimrods/flipside19801216.htm

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I have a Mennonite friend who's a nut for Sacred Harp singing and vocal music in general... I think I'm going to buy him a copy of this record.

― The Jazz Guide to Penguins on Compact Disc (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Ok, and anti-devotion, too. :-)

― O'Connor (OConnorScribe), Thursday, 8 June 2006 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link

nine months pass...

I can't think of any reason not to be a whore for this album. Sign me up.

― Bimble, Saturday, 7 April 2007 06:09 (seventeen years ago) link

That's it. I'm starting a great big list of stuff I want on vinyl. Right now.

― Bimble, Saturday, 7 April 2007 06:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Other people browse in record shops, I see no point unless I have a list.

― Bimble, Saturday, 7 April 2007 06:16 (seventeen years ago) link

the tusk documentary that's on youtube -- particularly the "angel" segment, which gave me a newfound fondness for that song. the look stevie and lindsey give each other when she sings "when you were good, you were very very good."

the piano at the end of "what makes you think you're the one" -- was billy joel included in the "new wave" lindsey was listening to that year?

― get bent, Saturday, 7 April 2007 12:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Such a good album.

― Tim F, Saturday, 7 April 2007 14:40 (seventeen years ago) link

life changing.

― ian, Saturday, 7 April 2007 14:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I, as a kid, ordered this record from the Columbia Record and Tape Club. Imagine my 13-yr-old self: opening it up and examining all the packaging, trying to reconcile the smoother stuff with the new wave touches, working out who the best songwriter was out of the big three, hours and hours and hours alone with all that vinyl and my math homework and bruises from football practice...

...man, that was cool.

― Dimension 5ive, Saturday, 7 April 2007 15:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe not ILM-wise, but the most underrated double alb, evah?

― AHF, Sunday, 8 April 2007 02:29 (seventeen years ago) link

also love "That's All for Everyone", and like Tusk, though color me rockist: Rumours is just better

― Dominique, Sunday, 8 April 2007 03:09 (seventeen years ago) link

never forget is such a summer jam.

― ian, Sunday, 8 April 2007 03:34 (seventeen years ago) link

i have been listening to this all day pretty much

― river wolf, Sunday, 8 April 2007 03:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Someone mentioned Never Forget!!! BE STILL MY BEATING HEART!!! Bless you. I mean...that's really the highlight of the whole album aside from Sara, isn't it? Ah, personal opinions. Still I felt so alone feeling that "Never Forget" was the absolute shit. It is, isn't it?

Still marvelling at how dlp9001 could insinuate that there was a Swans/Fleetwood Mac connection way up there in this thread...that's almost...genius, but it scares me.

― Bimble, Sunday, 8 April 2007 04:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Stevie is the princess, Christine the queen. I don't care if I get thrown out of here by saying that.

― Bimble, Sunday, 8 April 2007 04:52 (seventeen years ago) link

i. love. this album. a lot.

beautiful child makes me wanna cry sometimes, though. but in a rly good way.

― tehresa, Sunday, 8 April 2007 04:54 (seventeen years ago) link

oh child please, that's like ILM standard; at this point it would be a lot braver to say that stevie is the bestest...

...and i'll agree with tehresa, my highlight is 'beautiful child.'

― Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 8 April 2007 04:55 (seventeen years ago) link

that first part was an x-p to the Bimble

― Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 8 April 2007 04:56 (seventeen years ago) link

got that ;)

― tehresa, Sunday, 8 April 2007 04:56 (seventeen years ago) link

i love that i never read or post to ilm but the first time i wander over in months, tusk is at the top.

― tehresa, Sunday, 8 April 2007 04:56 (seventeen years ago) link

"Never Make Me Cry"

― Bimble, Sunday, 8 April 2007 05:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh wait...I get it now. "Beautiful Child" was also the name of a Swans song off the Children of God album...hmmm..I see the reason for the link between the bands, now.

Still if you can play "Never Make Me Cry" and not be moved, you are stone.

― Bimble, Sunday, 8 April 2007 05:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I'll repeat: "Brown Eyes" and "Never Let Me Cry" are perfection; they're the same, sad, deracinating number.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 8 April 2007 06:26 (seventeen years ago) link

deracinating? Wow, that's a new word on me, man.

― Bimble, Sunday, 8 April 2007 06:35 (seventeen years ago) link

stevie IS the bestest tho

― electricsound, Sunday, 8 April 2007 09:00 (seventeen years ago) link

"deracinated." I was not sober last night.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 8 April 2007 13:27 (seventeen years ago) link

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