Pavement:Classic or Dud

why would you feel humiliated about something that has nothing to do with you?

cause i'm a fan and i have something emotionally invested in it, same reason r kelly fans who happened to have 14-year-old daughters might've felt a little humiliated, r's face with its devilish grin all staring back at them from their cd racks

i'm not a gambling man, but what are the odds that Bob can lay off the track for good? I wager someone around here has a chance at answering this or all bets are off!

i'm proud because of r. kelly

i think (hope) you're just being funny, del, because equating a band getting together and doing what a band does (playing shows, getting paid for those shows) with being accused of the stuff r kelly was accused of is uhhh

when i saw the pixies reunion i felt like joey santiago was literally pissing in my face (spiritually speaking)

lol
but for real, even the pixies -- those guys are seriously just letting their booker book a few money gigs a year and showing up and doing them ... but I'm not mad about it. i still love pixies records. and i don't have to go see them if i don't want to.

i mean, i'm glad that joey santiago doesn't have to worry about paying bills and can literally spiritually piss in people's faces now.

i hope the tour goes well but i'm not going because frankly they kinda sucked when i saw them back in the day

yeah but see that was back when they were existentialists - now they've got motivation!

slack motivation

i'm glad that people who never got a chance to see them in the 90s can do so now. i'm more glad that i saw two good shows (and one terrible one tbh) back in the day. malkmus seems in the live clips i've seen to be doing his petulant, too good for these guys routine, but whatever!

yeah I realized that a) my elation was probably over the top and b) some too cool for school type would pee all over it. you're so blase, van smack!
― iago g., Thursday, June 10, 2010 5:48 PM (8 minutes ago)
I was saying Pavement is a DUD. It's not a reply to your post, which I didn't read in the first place.
― van smack, Friday, June 11, 2010 12:58 AM (21 hours ago)

Sorry about that, van smack...

Is there any way to figure out what time they're playing at Pitchfork Music Festival?

I believe I saw a time lineup on something like metromix (blah) or something this week - maybe it was the pfork reader advertisement - but I believe they're at 9 pm - so no, you won't be able to fit in Iron Maiden on the same night (sad)...

Tyler, are you going to see them in Broomfield?

i am! you going?

hd vids of classic line-up from OG Noize Board deniz0r JenEcho:
http://www.youtube.com/user/jijifer#p/u

saw the pavemo at the greek (Berkeley) last friday. not only was SM not very grumpy, he actually seemed to be in fair humor. a buddy of mine ~hated~ Bob N., calling him the "indie rock Flavor Flav"; i thought he was more amusing than annoying. but holy flippin' crap the band sounded fantastic! they ended the night w/ "here", and then "summer babe" - 'miner was chuffed

i'm not a gambling man, but what are the odds that Bob can lay off the track for good? I wager someone around here has a chance at answering this or all bets are off!

Long odds. This has vanished from the Des Moines Register site proper, but suggests he has no intention whatsoever of giving up track life:

"I always prefer horse racing," he said. "Thankfully, the music is far more lucrative."

He was a jockey agent at one point, but said "the stress of being a jockey agent is the only thing I've ever done that I find to be more stressful than music. You can work 100 hours a week and make $100."

He had some success claiming horses, then tried his hand at breeding and it backfired.

"Breeding horses put me in massive debt," Nastanovich said. "You always think that one home run will pay for all the other ones, but I don't think I ever had a single."

He figures he'll pay those debts by the time the tour ends on Oct. 1. Meanwhile, he will visit every track he can during the world tour.

"Any time I get a day off, I'll take advantage and go to a nearby track," he said.

Berkeley show was sweet, good natured, generous, and hilarious to boot. Glad I got the chance to go.

I'd love to go to the Hollywood Bowl show but it is $$ and I hate big shows anyway

so has anyone been to the central park shows? i was there last night and they were great tbh

I was there too. It was absolutely phenomenal, and exceeded every expectation I had. I saw them a buttload of times back in the day, and this was the best they've ever sounded. And the setlist was just about perfection.

btw pavement were v. good last night, though spiral seems to have been replaced by a stephin merritt impersonator

― mookieproof, Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:08 PM (Yesterday)

really? i am going tomorrow night...that really heartens me

Show in Milwaukee was superb -- certainly better than when they were touring for Terror Twilight, maybe about the same as the great show I saw around Wowee Zowee time.

great show. excellent lightning display.

(posted on another thread but) Tuesday = easily one of the best shows I've ever seen in my life and embodied everything I thought Pavement wd be like live. The *only* thing that could have made it better was a setlist addition of "Fillmore Jive" and "All My Friends" (both unlikely as fuck)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7IQFZ5R1TA

why spending money on shows when theres youtube lol

Show in Milwaukee was superb -- certainly better than when they were touring for Terror Twilight, maybe about the same as the great show I saw around Wowee Zowee time.

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, September 24, 2010 1:56 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

i had the pleasure of attending this show myself. was sitting next to the gang of hollering jackasses in the starboard mezzanine, hooboy were they ever feeling their $3 tallboys, and yet despite that, probably the evening's principal mellow-harsher was malkmus playing the first bar of "old to begin," my favorite pavement song, before going into something else instead, like it was a stones greatest hits medley.

Dud.

they were most excellent on jimmy fallon, and the contest guy was not bad (alright, i couldn't pick out his guitar). so psyched to see them tonite!

i saw 'em wednesday night - great setlist and they sounded about as good as i could have expected. the thunderstorm was an awesome touch imo and the sky turned this weird ass green color for the majority of the show - i was right in front so stayed pretty dry considering. ibold came out an hour or so before the show and handed me a piece of cake, which was pretty cool. great cake, too.

we got some nice suprises - "spizzle trunk", "the hexx", "lions", "heckler spray"

they were most excellent on jimmy fallon, and the contest guy was not bad (alright, i couldn't pick out his guitar). so psyched to see them tonite!

― iago g., Friday, September 24, 2010 4:17 PM

dude's guitar was so just not there in the mix; it was inaudible

spiral seemed in pretty good spirits actually - seemed pissed off at one point, either at the end of "date w/ ikea" or "kennel district"

bob was predictably fuckin awesome

and malk was malk

ibold smiled a lot

nastanovich is wearing a lindon lions hat on the fallon clip

also, you ate a piece of cake from the ace of cakes!

it was v v good cake

the thunderstorm was an awesome touch imo and the sky turned this weird ass green color for the majority of the show

yeah! it was super weird out which made it fun.

spiral seemed in pretty good spirits actually - seemed pissed off at one point, either at the end of "date w/ ikea"

that makes sense because man did he mail in the vocal on ikea. worst part of the show because i actually like that song.

lol @ malk drumming during "kennel d" tho

he drummed on most of wowee zowee including kennel district iirc.

oh yeah i knew he did some drumming on record it's just funny to see him sling his guitar across his back and pound out a few bars from the wrong side of the kit

great show tonight--very good setlist. i definitely got the feeling we wouldn't be seeing them again, so it seemed poignant too

Enjoyed SFJ's critique in the New Yorker. He dates their decline too early for my liking - just after Slanted and Enchanted and Gary Young's departure - and the Cobain-suicide link is a bit of stretch but I agree with his general gist. Explains why my interest tailed off after Crooked Rain.

http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/musical/2010/10/11/101011crmu_music_frerejones

wow that is indie guilt at its basest encapsulated.

Really? How so?