stop living free or we all die
― iatee, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:56 (thirteen years ago) link
that would be good for the environment!
― harbl, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:56 (thirteen years ago) link
y'all read jg ballard "billenium"? freaky shit
― hobbes, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 21:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Why do hipsters get bitter and cling to their soccer games and iphones?
― seandalai, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link
Great idea to move all Americans to one place where a single natural disaster or catastrophe could kill all of us, let's get on that as soon as possible. Also, visits to our new, spacious "green belt" will be achieved by gyrocopter or somesuch because there won't be any roads or anything but yeah.
― I guess for copraphiles this is gonna be awesome (Pancakes Hackman), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 22:42 (thirteen years ago) link
mr. pancakes, are you seriously trying to form an argument against "everyone in america should move to new hampshire"?
― iatee, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 23:05 (thirteen years ago) link
Natural disaster-prone New Hampshire.
― nakhchivan. nakhchivan. nakhchivan i wanna rock ya (The Reverend), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 23:08 (thirteen years ago) link
why don't we set up a colony on the moon? not like there's anecosystem we'd be ruining there, or any people we'd be displacing. except for the moonmen, but they don't count as people.
― Save Ferris' It Means Everything knocked my socks off (latebloomer), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 23:09 (thirteen years ago) link
(plus i hear their meat's quite good)
the moon was towed here by aliens, we have no claim to it
― hobbes, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 23:32 (thirteen years ago) link
one thing to think about--no natural disasters ever happen in new hampshire
― max, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 23:37 (thirteen years ago) link
that's because they're hording the alien weather-defense technology.
― Save Ferris' It Means Everything knocked my socks off (latebloomer), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 23:38 (thirteen years ago) link
What do you think? The libertarians couldn't even manage to pull that one off, I don't think ILX has much of a chance.
― I guess for copraphiles this is gonna be awesome (Pancakes Hackman), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 23:38 (thirteen years ago) link
ilx is not everyone in america fwiw
― iatee, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 23:40 (thirteen years ago) link
that's a lie. there are only 24 people in the united states.
― Save Ferris' It Means Everything knocked my socks off (latebloomer), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 23:41 (thirteen years ago) link
all of them are ilxors the rest are...moonfolk
― Save Ferris' It Means Everything knocked my socks off (latebloomer), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 23:42 (thirteen years ago) link
Dudes Specimen 1: Sarah Palin
― youn, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 23:43 (thirteen years ago) link
No, I meant ILX couldn't convince everyone t . . . oh, nevermind.
― I guess for copraphiles this is gonna be awesome (Pancakes Hackman), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 23:55 (thirteen years ago) link
Guys I really fear for this megalopolis hellhole some of you seem to really want.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 00:00 (thirteen years ago) link
don't worry dude, already stocking up on gyrocopters
― iatee, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 00:02 (thirteen years ago) link
new hampshire, 2020 AD:http://spengo.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/st_bladerunner_f.jpg
― Save Ferris' It Means Everything knocked my socks off (latebloomer), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 00:06 (thirteen years ago) link
What could possibly go wrong with this massive city?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KBgFq229FM
― I guess for copraphiles this is gonna be awesome (Pancakes Hackman), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 00:17 (thirteen years ago) link
brooklyn is really not that bad yall
― max, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 00:23 (thirteen years ago) link
I live in a city where the pop. density approaches 40,000 per square mile, suck it
― an indie-rock microgenre (dyao), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 01:34 (thirteen years ago) link
lolol actually I live in the party of the city where the density is 111,000 per square mile
― an indie-rock microgenre (dyao), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 02:02 (thirteen years ago) link
is it a dreamlike paradise
― ULTRAMAN dat ho (jjjusten), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 02:05 (thirteen years ago) link
I levitate to work
― an indie-rock microgenre (dyao), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 02:06 (thirteen years ago) link
omg
― ULTRAMAN dat ho (jjjusten), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 02:07 (thirteen years ago) link
It will be when all the rural yokels move in!
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 02:27 (thirteen years ago) link
no, then it will be brooklyn
― iatee, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 02:33 (thirteen years ago) link
suburbs are only cheaper if your free time is best spent driving home and to work
― postmodern infidel(ity) (mh), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 02:34 (thirteen years ago) link
(completely bullshitting because people definitely live and work in suburbs too, but I'm generalizing)
NO GENERALIZING ITT
― 156, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 02:44 (thirteen years ago) link
http://zeekeekee.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/kowloon_walled_city_hong_kong_gotham_batman2.jpg
― an indie-rock microgenre (dyao), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 02:48 (thirteen years ago) link
TS:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/125/361507066_3ec7faee14.jpg
vs.
http://www.danielbouws.com/assets/hdrtokyo.jpg
THERE CAN BE NO IN-BETWEEN
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 03:40 (thirteen years ago) link
barenaked ladies oaks vs daft punk city
― i don't always play indie, but when i do, i prefer xx (m bison), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 03:47 (thirteen years ago) link
Well, put that way, there is no way Daft Punk's city could be anything less than completely awesome.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 03:48 (thirteen years ago) link
That last picture looks like a city from F-Zero.
― breaking that little dog's heart chakra (Abbott), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 03:51 (thirteen years ago) link
I cannot believe this is "primeval" or inherent to humanity. A lot of people throughout history have lived in far closer-knit communities with scads less privacy than we moderns (particularly Americans?) consider normal.
you're assuming 1/2 the people in those far closer-knit communities didn't wanna get the fuck away from the other 1/2.
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 04:32 (thirteen years ago) link
Another point I wanted to make about living in more walkable cities: the weather in a lot of places in the USA is really shitty. Living right along the West Coast is great, and since I've spent all of 2 weeks of my life north of Pittsburgh I can't really speak for the Northeast, but pretty much everywhere else is either a swampy hellhole in the summer (which lasts for like six months) or insanely cold in the winter (which lasts for like six months) or both (i.e. the Midwest + Great Plains). Like: San Antonio, Atlanta, Houston, New Orleans in July are really shitty places to be, spending 20+ minutes walking to/fro the grocery store, spending time waiting for the bus/train (although I guess you can put AC in train stations). Those places are shitty in June and September too, and not that great in May. So I dunno: living here in Paris where a hot day is 30C, it makes walkability no big deal. Whereas when I go back to the USA and it's fucking 95F+ all summer, and around 100F a goodly part of July-Sept. with heat advisories from the NWS every day, I just want to get in my car in my garage, crank the AC, drive, then run into the store or whatever & run out again. Basically, the climate of wide stretches of the USA sucks for walkability. And I guess you can just sneer & say "don't live there" but there are jobs in those places & I doubt the US economy has enough jobs for everyone to move to e.g. Portland or whatever.
― Euler, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 04:45 (thirteen years ago) link
the climate here sucks during the summer too, they've solved the problem by air conditioning the entire city
― an indie-rock microgenre (dyao), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 04:51 (thirteen years ago) link
when I lived in FLA I dreamed of someone building a huge dome over the place which could be air conditioned.
― Euler, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 04:56 (thirteen years ago) link
I've been recommending they do it to Manhattan for years.
― the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 13:52 (thirteen years ago) link
http://popupcity.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Manhattan-Bubble-By-Buckminster-Fuller.jpg
― sent from my neural lace (ledge), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 13:56 (thirteen years ago) link
Scootch it down slightly pls so my house gets in kthx
― the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 13:58 (thirteen years ago) link
See, I said upthread we were working towards Logan's Run territory, but did anyone listen? Nooooooooo.
― I guess for copraphiles this is gonna be awesome (Pancakes Hackman), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 14:10 (thirteen years ago) link
euler:
I imagine many people in montreal or scandinavia would trade weather w/ any of those places, and they've managed to build decent public transit systems that a decent % of the populace uses. most of the cities you mentioned existed before the invention of cars or AC. and yeah - I'm sure it sucked, but arguably not as much as the world will suck 100 years from now if we don't completely alter our consumption patterns.
much of america lives under miserable weather for some periods of the year. but by your standards, so does...the majority of the world? in fact, an 'average american' probably deals w/ less bad weather than your 'average non-american'. america is not in any way special on this measure.
the fact that 'the jobs are at these places' (and a large % of new jobs are going to these places) is dependent on a lot of things, esp cost-of-living. oil related jobs are location-dependent, and yeah, they're gonna be in texas. tech jobs don't need to be in texas.
― iatee, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 14:17 (thirteen years ago) link
and before anyone jumps on me for 'average non-american' - yes, I realize you can't do an 'average' of people from hawaii and minnesota or zimbabwe and finland, but let's say you take 100 random americans and 100 random non-americans from around the world - I would bet that the 100 random americans would have a lower % of 'days that euler would consider bad weather' than the 100 non-americans.
― iatee, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 14:24 (thirteen years ago) link
iatee's perfect city, realized in SimCity: Magnasanti.
― postmodern infidel(ity) (mh), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 14:25 (thirteen years ago) link
That's how it'll work in the future – we'll build arcologies and tear them down & then build over where they had been, fooling the census people into thinking those 400,000 people are still accounted for.
― breaking that little dog's heart chakra (Abbott), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 14:28 (thirteen years ago) link