really makes me want to read hegel and hausel to understand late heidegger to understand derrida (kinda thought socrates was supposed to be the key to derrida though)
― plax (ico), Thursday, June 17, 2010 6:03 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i thought levinas was the key to derrida
― max, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:27 (thirteen years ago) link
i dont even know who that is
― plax (ico), Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link
smdh
― max, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:29 (thirteen years ago) link
i will never understand derrida
― plax (ico), Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:29 (thirteen years ago) link
fu omg
lol jk
― max, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:30 (thirteen years ago) link
lithuanian jew, student of husserl (and heidegger i believe?), key concepts 'the other' 'ethics as first philosophy' 'face-to-face' 'alterity'
derrida has two long essays about him--'violence and metaphysics' and a published (extended?) version of the eulogy he gave at levinas funeral
― max, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:34 (thirteen years ago) link
the key to derrida fyi is smokin pot and reading poetry
I don't think levinas was a student of heidegger (maybe yr thinkin' of marcuse?), but yeah, he was (I believe) the first french translator of husserl, and in general had a big influence on the french reception of phenomenology
― INSUFFICIENT FUN (bernard snowy), Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link
xpost halfway there; which poetry should I be readin'?
Rilke, maybe?
― Mordy, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link
well holderlin obv
― max, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link
rimbaud dude
― AESTHOLE (jjjusten), Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link
bob dylan
― max, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link
mallarme
― INSUFFICIENT FUN (bernard snowy), Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:40 (thirteen years ago) link
shel silverstein
paul celan
― max, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link
nicki minaj
paul celan for sure.
― Mordy, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link
I heard a lecture on Derrida + Celan last weekend.
celan was the poet derrida wrote most about from what i can tell.
― max, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:42 (thirteen years ago) link
this (therefore) will not have been a thread
― ksh, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:46 (thirteen years ago) link
the best introduction to Derrida is the documentary Derrida — his waffle-preparing technique is the key to his entire philosophy project
― ksh, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:49 (thirteen years ago) link
or, "philosophical" project
― ksh, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:51 (thirteen years ago) link
i am gonna look into these foucault lectures because they sound right up my alley but that means i will probably not read them for another 4 years because that's what i do :(
― harbl, Thursday, 17 June 2010 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link
first book of Derrida's lectures was published last year too
― ksh, Thursday, 17 June 2010 23:07 (thirteen years ago) link
I thought jakobson and the structuralists was the key to derridas but I come from a lit theory background
― dyao, Thursday, 17 June 2010 23:17 (thirteen years ago) link
by the way any philosophy book is improved 1000% if you imagine zizek reading it to you in his voice
― dyao, Thursday, 17 June 2010 23:18 (thirteen years ago) link
i sometimes make lectury gestures when i am reading philosophy bc i am explning it to myself
― plax (ico), Thursday, 17 June 2010 23:26 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm philosophy
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 17 June 2010 23:33 (thirteen years ago) link
xpost yeah me too! (not in public tho, I don't have the stones fer that)
zizek's voice is great, and I have sometimes imitated it (in my head or aloud) while reading his stuff, but never thought of using it for other things. heh.
― INSUFFICIENT FUN (bernard snowy), Thursday, 17 June 2010 23:34 (thirteen years ago) link
i think when i read derrida i imagine it in Dennis Hopper's voice
― sarahel, Friday, 18 June 2010 00:19 (thirteen years ago) link
50 Philosophy Blogs!
http://onlinechristiancolleges.net/50-philosophy-blogs-to-help-you-find-the-meaning-of-life/
― Mordy, Saturday, 19 June 2010 00:09 (thirteen years ago) link
only two from that list I recognize/read sometimes are Larval Subjects and Object-Oriented Philosophy. but I still don't understand their whole "speculative realism" steeze.
― INSUFFICIENT FUN (bernard snowy), Saturday, 19 June 2010 03:01 (thirteen years ago) link
there's a speculative realism collection on its way, you can learn soon! Although really I don't think it's much of anything at all, beyond very broad sweeps like being a strain of continental thought that takes science more seriously and tries to put together more positive projects after years of deconstructive negativity and such.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 19 June 2010 10:57 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm pretty sure Levinas studied under Heidegger, making the whole nazism and turn away from Heidegger all the more dramatic.
― Tonight I Dine on Turtle Soup (EDB), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:35 (thirteen years ago) link
just got Quentin Meillasoux's After Finitude from Amazon -- anyone read it?
― INSUFFICIENT FUN (bernard snowy), Sunday, 20 June 2010 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link
YES!
― ksh, Sunday, 20 June 2010 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link
it's excellent!
I'll need to read it many more times before I really understand it, but the stuff about the ancestral is so good
― ksh, Sunday, 20 June 2010 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link
cool thread! current readings: Deleuze - The Logic of SenseFoucault - The Order of ThingsSelected Writings of Nicholas of Cusaand as always reading and re-reading Peirce for my dissertation.
anyone here into radical constructivism or second order cybernetics? (Heinz von Foerster, Spencer-Brown, Humberto Maturana, Niklas Luhmann, Francisco Varela, etc etc) Not philosophy proper but in truth i think it sheds a lot of light in that direction.
― ryan, Sunday, 20 June 2010 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link
don't recognize most of those names... I'm curious about Luhmann (only know about him thru Habermas), but haven't read any yet -- I get the impression that his work would dovetail with Latour, who I quite like, but maybe I'm way off-base. also interested in cybernetics, but I feel like I need to really bone up on math before I can get anything out of it.
― INSUFFICIENT FUN (bernard snowy), Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah Latour is certainly close to those guys, as is Michel Serres.
― ryan, Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link
looking at After Finitude on amazon, looks pretty cool, gonna pick it up.
― ryan, Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link
Thinking about buying Leo Damrosch's Tocqueville's Discovery of America, anyone heard anything good about it? (Yes, probably more of a history than poly phi, but I've wanted to read something Tocqueville related for awhile.)
― Mordy, Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link
God, I was grumpy the other day. To make it up, here is a neat comic done by my mate, called Being & Tim. It is mostly philosophy dork jokes, and thus is very funny.
― emil.y, Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:33 (thirteen years ago) link
A++ emil.y, your friend's comics are great
― ksh, Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:36 (thirteen years ago) link
looking at After Finitude on amazon, looks pretty cool, gonna pick it up.― ryan, Sunday, June 20, 2010 6:09 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
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― INSUFFICIENT FUN (bernard snowy), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:16 (thirteen years ago) link
sorry, that exclamation point was maybe a bit much
If you guys wanna start a reading group I'll pick it up and participate when I get home.
― Mordy, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link