tipping

there are certain jobs that because of how crappy they are, we have to pay taxes on them?

You think of tips as taxes?

i think of tips as a collective effort to improve the quality of life of service workers. they don't get paid enough, so the money has to come from somewhere else. MY POCKET. when all i wanna do is enjoy a few drinks after a long week without breaking the bank.

Exactly. Wishing and complaining isn't going to change it.

I still want to know why you described tips as taxes. Are you a freeper?

What's the protocol?

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just want to make sure the utter absurdity of this statement isn't lost. a few drinks after one week would call for a tip of around 3 bucks as minimally appropriate. that's all the dude would have to spend. 3 bucks a week. and he's complaining that this 3 bucks will "break the bank." seriously, man, examine what's going on with your life that lead to these circumstances. if 3 dollars is too much for you to afford, and you're still spending your money in bars, you need a therapist.

i think the tipping, for me, is the straw that breaks the camel's back

it's like jesus, i have to pay 5 dollars for a 99 cent beer and then a dollar on top of it to kiss the bartender's ass who's trying too hard to be cool serving me my drink.

i like the tab actually. a lot.

Sorry! I'm a Brit, oi don't belong 'ere m'lud. (I went to Yo Sushi today and didn't tip)

that's why i don't drink beer in bars (the price of the beer, not the dollar tip). i know it's silly because it's about the location and not the beer itself, but i'd rather at least order a drink with more ingredients than i have in the fridge at home.

i also hardly ever sit at the bar, which maybe i should try. get to know the bartenders a bit more. get a bit o' empathy goin on.

drinks are pretty expensive and staff is reportedly better-paid upfront than in the usa. so no tipping, i was told. but: some places (mainly restaurants, it seems) add a 10% surcharge on holidays (which is fine, i guess), or sundays (which is less fine), or saturdays (which is ridiculous).

also, service wasn't particularly great, which may or may not have something to do with the lack of tipping. yet aussie bartenders/servers are all over clearing away yr empties--it's more a struggle to get more. weird.

Based on a few months in Australia, I got the impression that they take their weekends rather more (i.e. less) seriously than in the UK or US. Some things even -- gasp! -- shut. The surcharge is related to the fact that restaurant probably pays its staff time-and-a-half or double time over the weekend.

Also, re: this thread and the many, many others. Why do people find tipping so confusing and infuriating? Americans and Brits drive on different sides of the road, and no one gets confused or infuriated by that. And NO ONE feels the need to defend their country's choice. It's merely a convention. Things be different in different parts of the world. Find out how tipping works, fit in (or don't), and forget about it.

Buy a whole bottle, mix, serve, and drink it in your home. Or in the park or on the train, perhaps. Either way, then you won't have to put out the extra money for overhead like the edifice, cost of operations, and service.

it's not my job to subsidize theirs.

Yes, it is. Or more accurately, it is your obligation under this country's tipping system. Otherwise you are guilty of the offense of theft of services AND the more serious crime of aggrivated douchebaggery.

In other words (polyphonic's):

If you don't like tipping, don't drink in bars. Period.

If only there could be a similar revolution against tipping.

US pints are smaller.

Definintely overtipped on the beers then!

Tbh it does sort of depend on the situation. I will often tip more than a buck for a beer if I am being served at a table on the sidewalk, for example. I go for 20 percent or close to it then. But if I am inside a bar and not receiving table service? One buck.

Totally. I recognise that my dollar tips don't have the same value as 20 years ago and will easily leave more depending on the situation.

Lately I'll sometimes leave a $2 tip on a $4 coffee just b/c like whatever man

who cares

there’s really no such thing as overtipping

otm

otm!

Not OTM in the slightest

I believe food service workers deserve a living wage and I will tip generously in support of that, but not if you pull racist bullshit on me.

ok I meant idiots being like “did I tip too much for my shoeshine” or whatever the fuck

Not OTM in the slightest

I believe food service workers deserve a living wage and I will tip generously in support of that, but not if you pull racist bullshit on me.

I don't eat in restaurants anymore but I still tip when picking up to-go orders. Less than 20%, though; my order is usually about $30 and I drop $5 in the jar. The other day I added a drink to the order when I arrived, so I tipped $8 on a $32 bill.

at the diner down the block i'll get coffee and eggs/toast/whatever and it'll come to like $10.75, i'll usually leave a $5 tip bc I just cant fathom leaving less than that for a meal that was brought to my table by a server, coffee refills, etc. then i'll always get fraud alert emails from my credit card company asking "DID YOU LEAVE A 45% TIP AT JOE'S DINER, PLEASE CONFIRM??" i know that stuff is all automated but i still want to call them and be like "please let your computer known that a $5 tip at a restaurant should never be considered suspiciously high"

there's a place in america where coffee eggs and toast still costs $10.75???

in Seattle I'm pretty sure that's at least $90

any time I see a sandwich in a deli that's only $5-$6 I immediately assume the whole restaurant is a drug trafficking front and leave

and then go out back to get drugs

Here in Buffalo that $90 could get you a house, with enough change leftover for coffee eggs & toast at the diner (depending on the tip)

there's a place in america where coffee eggs and toast still costs $10.75???

That does seem a little cheap. At the two diner/cafe places near me breakfast (eggs, meat, bread, potatoes) is about $15-17 per person, depending on what exactly you get.

sorry for my insensitive reply, DJP, it wasn’t at all cool for me to be all “no, but what I meant was” in response to your post

it took me a while to parse the recent posts but it is true, undertipping is OK if the servers/establishment are racist/assholes/etc, what I was agreeing with was that after a pleasant experience there is really no limit to a tip

in Seattle I'm pretty sure that's at least $90

Having just spent a week there, I can confirm this is true. :D

Also currently fighting off tears after looking at my credit-card bill because of the very strong dollar compared to pounds these days ;_;

sorry for my insensitive reply, DJP, it wasn’t at all cool for me to be all “no, but what I meant was” in response to your post

tbf I did Kool-Aid Man into the thread with that post

I am going to be brave and not tip 20% when I get my hair done tonight because apparently I've been overtripping here and now I know why the nail salon girls are always so nice to me. I thought we were buds! :/

When you're used to tipping a certain way it feels so weird and wrong not to.

Lately I'll sometimes leave a $2 tip on a $4 coffee just b/c like whatever man

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who cares

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yeah fuck all these stingy bastards!!

there's a place in america where coffee eggs and toast still costs $10.75???

it's hard for me to imagine coffee, eggs, and toast being much more than like $12 maybe

Have you been to a joint called California

i just checked and a plate of scrambled eggs, bacon, and pancakes at the Denny's near me is 7.99

Vomit

7.99 but then coffee is another $3.50

right which is 74 cents more than 10.75

and that's WITH bacon

for 10.75 in Philly you can get a pretty decent hoagie and a side of fries at the local Papi store.