Star Wars - Classic or Dud?

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Can I just say that the guy playing Anakin in Episode 2 is awful? I saw him in some cheesy Lifetime movie and the boy cannot act. And he looks like the bastard son of Ronald McDonald with blond hair.

Nicole, Friday, 15 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Be careful about accussing Ronald McDonald of having illegitimate children, they've sued for less! :)

james e l, Friday, 15 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Star Wars = DUD if only for being, not w/o justification, fall guy for death of most creative period in American cinema

Hardware War = CLASSIC. Leia w/cinnamon buns for hair, R2D2 as rolly vacuum cleaner, Death Star as giant basketball. I saw it at the library when I was little. Libraries rule.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 15 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Possibly even dudder than Ant & Dec.

DG, Friday, 15 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

"Tachyons" = particles with no mass, so they're particularly useful for building spacecraft intended for faster-than-light travel asthey're not subject to the laws of relativity.

tarden, Saturday, 16 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

It's ass questions like this that make me ashamed to participate in this forum (and ILM). I mean, all we're learning by having a question like this is who is a complete and total jackoff who had no childhood or sense of wonder.

*sigh*

Classic.

JM, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Childhood sense of wonder = alive and well among ILE ppl (see children's books thread and huge long postings by various people over there)

Childhood sense of wonder = not, particularly, activated by Star Wars. (Dr Who, however....)

Your answer = weird desire to fence stuff off against discussion. See also: Replacements thread.

Tom, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I hope that remark wasn't directed at me, moddy boy. I'm quite glad I never saw Star Wars properly until I was 14, it means I don't get to bore people to death with childhood memories of how 'good' Star Wars was. I made an attempt to watch SW when I was about 7, but it bored me rigid - I much preferred Star Trek, you see.

DG, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I was six (I think) when it came out (77?), and all I know for sure about the effect Star Wars had (on me) was that experiencing the first couple of minutes of the legendary Cantina scene somehow *changed everything* - this might sound cheesy, but it was as if a whole new world was realised, a place where supposed aliens weren't just guys in rubber suits, they were really ALIEN. Not to mention how fucking hyper that crazy mutant jazz music could make a little kid get.

Kim, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I raved to my dad abt the bar full o'aliens and the mutant jazz, shortly after SW came out — to prove to him that it was the BEST FILM EVER MADE (as I slightly inexplicably tht: I RAN all the way home after first saw it, so hyped wuz I, abt two-three miles — I had not, admittedly, seen many films at that age). My dad demurred: and sed (re bar-of-aliens and jazz), "This is a very old idea."

But is he right or was he on crack? I can think of no occurrence of EITHER idea in SF prior to this, and these days I sometimes KNOW WHAT I'M'TALKING ABOUT!!

mark s, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Didn't Sun Ra, creator of much weird-ass jazz, claim to be from outer space? If he did so before 1977, then the idea of aliens playing jazz does predate Star Wars, just not in literary/cinematic SF. Sun Ra = performance SF, maybe?

Richard Tunnicliffe, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Ra was inducted into space in the 40s, when he was in Chicago, though I think for some time after that, his Ark played in fezzes, not spacegear. But he was certainly hymning space by the late 50s: and Coltrane had followed him into Interstellar reaches by the mid-60s.

However, I think it HIGHLY unlikely that my dad had Ra in mind (or had even heard of him in 1977). He meant movies and (even more) pulp 50s books.

mark s, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I suppose the Cantina was pretty archetypal and "old" in a certain way, since it's bascically just a re-contexualised saloon scene stolen from any one of a hundred old west cowboy films. (For Ally - this might be the 'good reason' for Harrison's John Wayne-ishness)

It's funny mark, I remember my dad raving to *me* (after going by himself first, the bastard) about the aliens etc., I think he went to see it at the drive in, something like four times that summer. We always did have a ridiculous amount of sci-fi books around the house, he was a real fan, so I think he'd been waiting for that kind of scene for his entire life - and if *he* thought it was a film revolution, I'm inclined to believe.

Kim, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

two weeks pass...
I didn't see them when I was a kid, or if I did I don't remember them, so I don't have that sense of nostalgia to delve into. I did go and see them when they were re-released in the cinema about three or four years ago and thought they were pretty awful. Well, actually, I only saw the first two. The first one especially is perhaps the most boring film I have ever seen, I almost fell asleep in the cinema. So DUD.

Ally C, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

six months pass...
Okay, four more months, minus a few days, to That There Next Movie. Publicity blitz already revving up with the two hour Biography special on Lucas the other night; next up, Vanity Fair spread, etc. etc. I am starting to feel the itch, just a little bit, and I prepare...

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 2 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

there are star wars guitars.

http://www.guitarpunk.com/SW-85DV-close.jpg

http://www.guitarpunk.com/VADER-ZO%20with%20Soft.jpg

That means Star Wars is cool, no?

I can see a certain very cool cat playing one of these, but by god would he have to be cool. Something in the vein of goofpunk that is not necessarily goofy; just a band that has no image projection and acts stoopid. I could see the Dwarves playing this back in the day and getting away with it. Or the Dickies.

Nude Spock, Saturday, 2 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Ok so get this, I'm out last week in this nice-ish cafe/restaurant having ice cream and coffee with a bunch of people when suddenly I notice that original watercolour painting on the wall beside me bizarrely contains all these incongruent Star Wars characters and images including a big stupid Lando (a legless torso and head only) right in the middle of it all. Then I notice that these paintings were all over two walls of the place. "Fucking weird!" I think to myself, then after pointing it out to the others we have a heartily confused chuckle, then forget about it and move on. Later as I get up to put on my coat, I notice the the little sales and info card tacked up below the frame -- the price, 3800.00 dollars. The artist -- Billy Dee Williams.

Kim, Saturday, 2 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

God I wish I had a spare 3800.00 dollars.

Kim, Saturday, 2 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Were the malt liquor ads not enough for him, then?

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 2 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

There's no one I'd like to drink malt liquor with more than Billy Dee Williams. He's got class AND style!

adam, Saturday, 2 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The force is illogical. - Spock 3:16

David, Saturday, 2 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

B-b-but! What about Lord Of The Rings, eh? Surely the next few years will be CLASH OF THE GEEK TITANS! Who'll win?

DG, Saturday, 2 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Trust me, after I saw LOTR, I thought George was nearly blown out of the water. And I still do -- AOTC will be make or break, I think.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 2 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I should say! make or break in the sense of whether or not Star Wars is still *thee* Holy Grail of Film Geekdom. Right now I'm sensing a three way tie between it, LOTR and The Matrix...

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 2 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I am still really looking forward to AOTC!

jel, Saturday, 2 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

one year passes...

I was six (I think) when it came out (77?), and all I know for sure about the effect Star Wars had (on me) was that experiencing the first couple of minutes of the legendary Cantina scene somehow *changed everything* - this might sound cheesy, but it was as if a whole new world was realised, a place where supposed aliens weren't just guys in rubber suits, they were really ALIEN. Not to mention how fucking hyper that crazy mutant jazz music could make a little kid get.

-- Kim (grimstitc...), June 18th, 2001.

It was called "Lapti Nek" and I can still sing it (phonetically)!!!

mei (mei), Monday, 4 August 2003 12:57 (twenty years ago) link

First movie still classic in it's original 1977 version that I saw the day it was first released = classic classic classic

I've always thought that it should have stopped there. I don't care for Empire... and everything past that is garbage.

Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Monday, 4 August 2003 13:01 (twenty years ago) link

"I don't care for Empire..." Err, I should like to humbly submit evidence that should immediately and unequivocally expose your disdain as utterly unfounded. M’lud, exhibit A:

Alex K (Alex K), Monday, 4 August 2003 13:10 (twenty years ago) link

"No disintegration"

Alex K (Alex K), Monday, 4 August 2003 13:11 (twenty years ago) link

i assume Gareth still hasn't seen it. i've known two other people who never saw it - one was a French guy, quite possibly the French version of Gareth (except he liked psychedelic trance and chocolate BNs) and the other a Surrey girl of no particular distinction

stevem (blueski), Monday, 4 August 2003 13:17 (twenty years ago) link

We won a game of Star Wars Trivial Pursuit at the weekend. Therefore: Classic

robster (robster), Monday, 4 August 2003 13:32 (twenty years ago) link

leaked spoiler script for episode III!

WARNING!! contains the climactic "blunt-smoking" sequence!

Kingfish (Kingfish), Monday, 4 August 2003 14:18 (twenty years ago) link

nine months pass...
"According the Brtish tabloid The Sun, Star Wars III will carry the name 'Birth Of The Empire'. This will be announced soon according the article. Also it describes one of the highlights of the movie: 'A thrilling lightsabre clash between Obi-Wan Kenobi and Anakin Skywalker while surfing on lava.' Can't wait till May 15th 2005!"

24 hours with the King of Snake. (SNAKE!) (ex machina), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 19:26 (nineteen years ago) link

oh my god

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 19:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Urgh, it comes out on my birthday.

NA (Nick A.), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 19:29 (nineteen years ago) link

And you can even return it!

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 19:31 (nineteen years ago) link

And you can't even return it!

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 19:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Oops, sorry.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 19:31 (nineteen years ago) link

there must be some way we can sue George Lucas to block the release of this film.

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 19:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Surfing on lava. This one simple statement eradicated any hope of this movie restoring the franchise.

Dale the Titled (cprek), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 19:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I saw a bit of the Clones on TV the other day. This is possibly the worst movie ever made.

Skottie, Wednesday, 19 May 2004 19:36 (nineteen years ago) link

as long as it's like the fan-script i read it will be okay. Clones is better than Menace.

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 19:41 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.icv2.com/images/72551Mace-2X3-(SOL)lg.jpg

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 19:45 (nineteen years ago) link

oops
http://www.blister.jp/shop/item_html/pic/540000060799.jpg

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 19:49 (nineteen years ago) link

HAHAHAHAHA That seriously is the best bust ever created.

I want a picture of that bust surfing on lava.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 19:50 (nineteen years ago) link

I want a picture of that bust barfing on lava.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 19:52 (nineteen years ago) link

(Have I ever disclosed that I've seen that bust in person at a comic book store? It's even more frightning than the picture would lead you to believe.)

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 19:54 (nineteen years ago) link

I should note:

According the Brtish tabloid The Sun

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 19:54 (nineteen years ago) link

And you didn't buy it????

x-post

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 19:55 (nineteen years ago) link

That thing is EXPENSIVE! Plus my wife would murder me in my sleep by stuffing it down my throat.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 19:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Those are Super Star Destroyers.

― chap, Monday, November 18, 2019 6:54 AM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Long ago, in a galaxy far away
I blew your ship apart during the second film
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2013/02/04/karencarpenter_wide-0e9215459c1deb191a12aacfb2d0e7175a035b88-s800-c85.jpg

Yul, Tied: A Celebration of Brynner in Bondage (Old Lunch), Monday, 18 November 2019 13:01 (four years ago) link

speaking of nerf-herding.. It’s all that little bickering between basically everybody that helps make the friendships real. I agree the new ones, for all their fun, lack that

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 November 2019 13:09 (four years ago) link

Finn and Rey bicker a bit in TFA don't they?

chap, Monday, 18 November 2019 13:12 (four years ago) link

Space millennials don't bicker, they problem solve constructively and provide unconditional support and feedback to their peers.

Yul, Tied: A Celebration of Brynner in Bondage (Old Lunch), Monday, 18 November 2019 13:13 (four years ago) link

yeah kinda!

chap i we’ll let you know once we get to it - approx 2 weeks time.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 November 2019 13:20 (four years ago) link

(i don't remember it myself)

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 November 2019 14:58 (four years ago) link

Rewatched TFA last night and can confirm that yes they do

Thoroughly enjoyed the film too. Yes it's derivative as hell but still hard not to get goosebumps during those shots of Rey driving through the desert with the downed Star Destroyers and X-Wings in the background, the first shot of the 'garbage' ship etc

groovypanda, Monday, 18 November 2019 15:05 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

If you slice open a shit, there is a rich layer of complexity there as well.

― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, May 13, 2015 1:06 PM bookmarkflaglink

"wildly imaginative"

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, May 13, 2015 1:06 PM bookmarkflaglink

papa stank (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 January 2020 20:20 (four years ago) link

Maybe this is common knowledge to Star Wars fans, but I only found this out a couple of days ago and I keep thinking about it, regarding the origin of the name "Darth Vader", from wikipedia:

Other words which may have inspired the name are "death" and "invader",[12] as well as the name of a high school upperclassman of Lucas's, Gary Vader.

Gary Vader

silverfish, Thursday, 9 January 2020 21:09 (four years ago) link

um sorry a circular turd with no obvious weld line would be pretty amazing, i would at least tell my closest friends if not my fb feed

― demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, May 12, 2015 2:12 PM (four years ago) bookmarkflaglink

I think about this post often.

jmm, Thursday, 9 January 2020 21:12 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

pretty sweet poster

Happy Star Wars day! Poster art of the Star Wars cantina, by Bill Selby, 1978. https://t.co/GGm5KG7UXk pic.twitter.com/nE3RxBUkMD

— Covered Dish People (@doctorow) May 4, 2020

nashwan, Monday, 4 May 2020 13:03 (three years ago) link

Extremely cool, although I wish it had Lak Sivrak in it.

🔫 (peace, man), Monday, 4 May 2020 13:53 (three years ago) link

Some news:

https://www.starwars.com/news/taika-waititi-announce

Academy Award® winner Taika Waititi, who recently won Best Adapted Screenplay for Jojo Rabbit and directed the widely-acclaimed first season finale episode of The Mandalorian on Disney+, will direct and co-write a new Star Wars feature film for theatrical release.

Joining Waititi on the screenplay will be Academy Award® nominee Krysty Wilson-Cairns (1917, Last Night in Soho), who received a BAFTA Award for Outstanding British Film of the Year on the three-time Oscar-winning film, 1917.

In addition, Emmy®-nominated writer Leslye Headland (Russian Doll, Bachelorette) is currently developing a new untitled Star Wars series for Disney+. Headland will write, executive produce, and serve as showrunner for the series.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 May 2020 16:36 (three years ago) link

Awesome news!!

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 4 May 2020 17:48 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

i feel like some posters here will enjoy this. Tuomas in particular i remember wanting something like this.

https://www.thestarwarstrilogy.com/project-4k77/

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 10:57 (three years ago) link

Oh and I found this for you all

https://i.imgur.com/BCwGQCG.jpg

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 15:14 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

I can’t stop laughing at the idea that Wookies are about as smart as dogs but Han Solo doesn’t know that because he’s an alien so he just fully treats him like a man and Chewbacca has like 30% idea what’s going on and meanwhile Han is letting him drive a spaceship

— Daniel Kibblesmith (@kibblesmith) August 3, 2020

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 August 2020 17:43 (three years ago) link

There's a great follow up tweet to that as well, something like - "that's why Chewie doesn't get a medal, and why Leia thinks Han is a moron."

chap, Monday, 3 August 2020 17:50 (three years ago) link

four months pass...

We were watching New Hope last night and had the brightness on the TV pumped up all the way and saw something new: Vader’s eyes (Proswe’s eyes) clearly visible through his dark crimson visage in at least two scenes, notably during the final Death Star run. Weird

calstars, Thursday, 24 December 2020 15:23 (three years ago) link

three years pass...

have been watching the original trilogy for christmas, those "despecialized" versions

great stuff

this scene really is too sad ;_;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q19IGr-xeuA

corrs unplugged, Wednesday, 27 December 2023 21:34 (four months ago) link

When an Ewok dies, he murders some part of the world
These are the pale deaths which men miscall their lives

Ghidorah, the three-headed Explorah (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 December 2023 00:38 (four months ago) link

the original Dobby

Natural Wine • Danny Devito • Virginia (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 28 December 2023 01:11 (four months ago) link

two months pass...

Around 2003 in Chile, when the original trilogy of Star Wars began airing on television there, they did this funny thing to avoid cutting to commercial breaks. They stitched the commercials into the films themselves. Here is one of them, with the English dub added in. pic.twitter.com/wC7N2vPNvv

— Windy 🛸 (@heyitswindy) March 2, 2024

President Keyes, Sunday, 3 March 2024 01:10 (one month ago) link

The Truly Special Edition

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 3 March 2024 01:37 (one month ago) link

There is more. It's making this film watchable.

Palpatine You Have To Stop. You Smoke Too Tough. Your Swag Too Different. Your Bitch Is Too Bad. They’ll Kill You pic.twitter.com/rAbW8xUawQ

— Windy 🛸 (@heyitswindy) March 2, 2024

xyzzzz__, Monday, 4 March 2024 09:37 (one month ago) link

this is the funniest fucking thing ever oh my god https://t.co/XXDzkmxuON pic.twitter.com/spMRtArFvb

— Ren (@StanNajimi) March 3, 2024

xyzzzz__, Monday, 4 March 2024 09:39 (one month ago) link

Someone shared that with me yesterday and I couldn't breathe.

Right down to the cheesy jingle

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Monday, 4 March 2024 15:16 (one month ago) link

what are you talking about that's one of the most powerful commercial jingles ever made

frogbs, Monday, 4 March 2024 15:37 (one month ago) link

I've been singing "Cerveza Cristal" in that rock voice all day!

There is a Chilean restaurant kinda near me that I haven't been to for a while and I wonder if they have that beer. Might have to go.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 4 March 2024 15:49 (one month ago) link

I have to say that, as amazing as this concept is, I'm a little disappointed that they apparently only utilized it in advertising Cerveza Cristal. Like why not a shot of Darth Vader in his chamber lowering his helmet and pulling on a pair of Depends pañales para adultos.

Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Monday, 4 March 2024 16:07 (one month ago) link

i love the implication that everyone in star wars have secret beers hidden everywhere and are constantly riding a 3-beer buzz

waste of compute (One Eye Open), Monday, 4 March 2024 16:32 (one month ago) link

"Your sad devotion to that ancient religion hasnt helped you conjure of the stolen data tapes!... "

*smacks lips, eyes start absently scanning the room, tilts head back to "casually" peek under nearby chairs*

waste of compute (One Eye Open), Monday, 4 March 2024 16:36 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

The Empire Strips Back
A Burlesque Parody

https://theempirestripsback.com/san-francisco/#instafeed

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 26 April 2024 22:57 (six days ago) link


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