Velvet Underground Trainspotting Question

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i just picked up some of these recently. you realize these are flac files right? the quality is a little "bass-y", but really good. better than the quine tapes official release

If you can believe your eyes and ears (outdoor_miner), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 22:58 (thirteen years ago) link

My files are all messed up then. Is there anywhere else I can get them? I'm dying to hear these.

mung420, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 23:43 (thirteen years ago) link

If you are on a Mac you can unpack the rar archive using UnrarX. The equivalent program for Windows would appear to be WinRAR. Once you have done that you will have your flac files which you will need to convert to wav files for listening and/or burning to CD. There are some music players that will play flac files direct but it's a bit hit-and-miss.

That said I note there are some comments on the blog saying the files are corrupted or some such. I haven't tried downloading them so don't know whether it's true or not.

anagram, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 08:19 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, i think i had to use unrarx to get these files, they're uploaded kind of strangely.
i dunno if they're better quality than the Quine Tapes -- maybe the January show is. But they're a big improvement over the versions that have floated around in past decades -- a lot more listenable.

tylerw, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 14:33 (thirteen years ago) link

I've unzipped them using 7-zip with absolutely no problems at all. That's an excellent little bit of software, does what you want it to do with no fuss.

Officer Pupp, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 15:35 (thirteen years ago) link

I've used Winrar and 7-zip and they both keep asking for a password. Does anyone know what the password is?

mung420, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 17:50 (thirteen years ago) link

says it in the blog

margana (anagram), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link

lol thank you, can't believe I didn't see that

mung420, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link

i can definitely hear the influence of denny vertigo here...

He moved to New York in March so he could train with local hot dogs. (stevie), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 12:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Haha, I came on this thread to post that.

emil.y, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 13:19 (thirteen years ago) link

word gets around quick with such a momentous find!

Are people taking that seriously?

Officer Pupp, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Lou was so far ahead of his time you'd think he had a time machine

tylerw, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:30 (thirteen years ago) link

how can anyone bear to listen to such crappily recorded minutiae, the mind boggles

has arlen specter never heard clarence thomas's laugh? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:30 (thirteen years ago) link

i consider myself a huge VU fan, and i cant even listen to the quine tapes very easily

69, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link

I consider myself a huge VU fan, and I love it.

chromecassettes, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, Lou was so far ahead of his time you'd be forgiven for thinking that it's a fairly well done spoof recorded in 2010 and passed off as a street-sale find.

Officer Pupp, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Found at a street sale in Hoboken, NJ last week

as if I needed any encouragement to continue cratedigging, jeez.

acetate quality would upset me more if this wasn't "Do The Ostrich" with different lyrics.

bug holocaust (sleeve), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, Lou was so far ahead of his time you'd be forgiven for thinking that it's a fairly well done spoof recorded in 2010 and passed off as a street-sale find.
sorry, thought my post was dripping with sarcasm, but I guess not! yes, obviously a spoof tie-in with the human centipede movie that came out a little while ago.

tylerw, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link

oh, I was a little slow on the uptake there

bummer.

bug holocaust (sleeve), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:23 (thirteen years ago) link

well, speaking of the pickwick years, this stuff is tantalizing:

December 3, 1964
Walter De Maria's Bond Street loft, New York City, New York

John Cale - Tony Conrad - Walter De Maria - Lou Reed - Jimmie Sims

1. Won't You Smile (1st take)
2. The Ostrich (1st take)
3. The Ostrich (2nd take)
4. Won't You Smile (2nd take)
5. Johnny Won't Surf Anymore
6. Teardrops In The Sand
7. Sad Lonely Orphan Boy
8. Shame, Shame, Shame

A full review of this Primitives rehearsal tape is available in Beyond The Dream Syndicate - Tony Conrad and the Arts after Cage by Branden W. Joseph. Won't You Smile is an early version of Why Don't You Smile Now. Shame, Shame, Shame is a Jimmy Reed's cover.

May 11, 1965
Pickwick Studios, near Long Island City, New York

John Cale - Lou Reed - Jerry Vance or Jimmie Sims

1. Buzz Buzz Buzz (one complete take + a couple of attempts breaking down)
2. Why Don't You Smile Now
3. Heroin (take 1)
4. Heroin (take 2)
5. Untitled Piano Piece 1
6. Untitled Piano Piece 1

A full review of this demo tape is available in White Light/White Heat - The Velvet Underground Day by Day by Richie Unterberger. Buzz Buzz Buzz is a Lou Reed original, not a cover of the 1957 hit by The Hollywood Flames. Untitled Piano Pieces are by John Cale alone.

tylerw, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm sure Lou would never let it happen, but a *real* career-spanning box set of his work would be great. one that started with the early doo wop stuff, went into the pickwick years, the VU, the solo years, etc. There's Between Thought & Expression, but that's pretty old now -- only goes up to Mistrial I think and doesn't have any VU or pre-VU stuff.

tylerw, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Tyler, it wasn't a dig at you honestly; I could tell that you'd got it. What I couldn't tell from the tone of the other answers was whether people were taking it seriously or whether people knew it was a spoof.

Officer Pupp, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link

ha, no worries! it's not a bad spoof though! i mean, for someone with obviously too much time on their hands ... :)

tylerw, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:35 (thirteen years ago) link

so has anyone actually bought this Quine Tapes on LP thing from Sundazed? No way I could afford it, but I'm curious to know if the fact that "this set has been newly mastered by Bob Irwin from the original source material" makes any significant difference sound-quality wise. Samples sound good, but I can't really tell. http://sundazed.com/shop/vu_quine.php

tylerw, Thursday, 8 July 2010 22:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Hello. I made that Primitives Human Centipede thing & I'm very proud of myself. Anyhoo, I came on here the other day & found out about the Nuns Are On The Seawall blog & downloaded an LP off there but now whenever I try to get on it says "No" & that I've not been invited or somesuch. Does anyone know how I can get on there?

Also my group The Loves' new LP has got Doug Yule on it as the voice of Jesus. Really.

Simon Love, Friday, 9 July 2010 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link

that I've not been invited

Damn. Me too.

StanM, Friday, 9 July 2010 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link

I can't believe anyone thought it was anything other than a spoof! Although my obsession with the Human Centipede and friendship with a couple of Loves may have helped me recognise this fact.

emil.y, Friday, 9 July 2010 18:19 (thirteen years ago) link

ha, nicely done, simon. you got a link for info on this Yule/Jesus album?

tylerw, Friday, 9 July 2010 18:28 (thirteen years ago) link

you got a link for info on this Yule/Jesus album?

All in good time. Which means you'll have to wait til the LP is available before I post anything.

Simon Love, Friday, 9 July 2010 20:15 (thirteen years ago) link

I can't believe anyone thought it was anything other than a spoof! Although my obsession with the Human Centipede and friendship with a couple of Loves may have helped me recognise this fact.

― emil.y, Friday, 9 July 2010 19:19 (3 hours ago) Bookmark

It was the welsh accent of the non-Cale variety. that & the fact it was on S!m0n's youtube and he'd been posting about the Human Centipede for the last week. Very nicely done an' that, though.

I realise now that I should've done it as John Cale's version of The Ostrich & done it in an OTT Welsh accent. & made a separate Youtube account to post it on. Something like StewReid64.

Simon Love, Saturday, 10 July 2010 14:59 (thirteen years ago) link

It was the lyrics that gave it away!

Officer Pupp, Sunday, 11 July 2010 14:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Is there a d/l link? Would like to hear it anyway...

Mark G, Monday, 12 July 2010 07:03 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKhbmRwBA50

There ^

& there's a new comment today

"This sounds almost identical to 'Do the Ostrich' by The Primitives which I beleive was a bit of a hit at the time. If this was never released Im guessing they changed the lyrics/music very slightly and released the ostrich version instead"

I do not know this person. I believe they are serious.

Simon Love, Monday, 12 July 2010 13:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Ach, I guess youtube is the new YSI?

Mark G, Monday, 12 July 2010 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link

god damn it

will someone PM me the password for Nuns Are On The Seawall files? now that the thing is invite only I can't look at it and the pw I thought it was is wrong.

bug holocaust (sleeve), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link

isn't it "cookin"?

tylerw, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 20:41 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah I thought there was a "vinyl" after it but that is a record label

thanking u

bug holocaust (sleeve), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 21:41 (thirteen years ago) link

oops it is "cookinG"

bug holocaust (sleeve), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 21:42 (thirteen years ago) link

How do you get invited to join Nuns Are On The Seawall? I only managed to download The Psychopath's Rolling Stones before it went invite only.

Simon Love, Thursday, 15 July 2010 18:41 (thirteen years ago) link

investigating that -- thevelvetforum.tk would be a good place to haunt. I think the dude who runs that blog posts there.

tylerw, Thursday, 15 July 2010 18:52 (thirteen years ago) link

meanwhile, there's this: http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=540
dunno if it's good or not.

tylerw, Thursday, 15 July 2010 18:59 (thirteen years ago) link

looks like the nuns site is back up and running. still sort of scared of it, but an amazing resource!

tylerw, Friday, 16 July 2010 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Just got the Hilltop boot on vinyl. blowing my fucking mind

Stormy Davis, Sunday, 8 August 2010 04:06 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah that thing is one-of-a-kind, the only LOUD outdoor gig of the Velvets that has surfaced so far. really different dynamics and sound when they turned it way up.

bug holocaust (sleeve), Sunday, 8 August 2010 07:14 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, parts of the "what goes on" on that bootleg are mindblowing. if you haven't seen it, i did a sort of sampler of the professor tapes over here: http://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/838951975/move-right-in-the-velvet-underground-at-the

tylerw, Sunday, 8 August 2010 15:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Ossum scenes

Simon Love, Friday, 13 August 2010 22:17 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

The Velvet Underground in Boston (1967, USA, 33 min.), which Warhol shot during a concert at the Boston Tea Party, features a variety of filmmaking techniques—sudden in-and-out zooms, sweeping panning shots, in-camera edits that create single frame images and bursts of light like paparazzi flash bulbs going off—that mirror the kinesthetic experience of the Exploding Plastic Inevitable, with its strobe lights, whip dancers, colorful slide shows, multi-screen projections, liberal use of amphetamines, and overpowering sound of The Velvet Underground.

http://www.moma.org/visit/calendar/film_screenings/10587

Thus Sang Freud, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 14:06 (thirteen years ago) link


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