It's a great song. I like it enough that seeing Papa M do an instrumental cover in concert was kind of thrilling tbh.It was probably my first favorite Byrds song.
― Trip Maker, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:14 (thirteen years ago) link
"Turn! Turn! Turn!" and "Mr. Tambourine Man" are two of the most overplayed songs ever that I don't switch off when they come on the radio. I could list 10 Byrds songs I love more, but neither one is dead for me yet.
― clemenza, Friday, 2 July 2010 16:17 (thirteen years ago) link
listening to John Reilly and What's Happening?! today, hazy summer bliss
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Friday, 2 July 2010 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoSwOrytf_M
― (ㅅ) (am0n), Monday, 29 November 2010 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gD84jbVV3c
― Trip Maker, Monday, 29 November 2010 17:47 (thirteen years ago) link
that's the jam
― gospodin simmel, Monday, 29 November 2010 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link
haha, those dancers in the "nowhere" clip are rad. almost like they're dancing to a completely different song.
― tylerw, Monday, 29 November 2010 19:51 (thirteen years ago) link
i've always been a little confused by the byrds' status in the late 60s -- were they seen as kinda passe at that point? i guess they just don't show up on a lot of those big festival movies.
― tylerw, Monday, 29 November 2010 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link
Crosby seemed to think so.
― Trip Maker, Monday, 29 November 2010 19:58 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, i guess at that point, the byrds might've been "that band David Crosby used to be in." s'pose the fact that mcguinn was the only original member left made a difference too, no matter how awesome the clarence white-era band was.
― tylerw, Monday, 29 November 2010 20:00 (thirteen years ago) link
What's weird to me is how quick the transition was. They always seemed like such distinct entities to me; the original lineup, the sweetheart aberration, the revamped rockers.But all three of those things existed in 1968. Fucked up year, to say the least.
― Trip Maker, Monday, 29 November 2010 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, no kidding! sort of amazing there was a byrds at the end of all of it. seems like the easiest thing to do would be for mcguinn to start a solo career, but the namebrand thing must've been too much to drop.
― tylerw, Monday, 29 November 2010 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link
"(Untitled)" is a really good album, especially with the unreleased tracks on the last CD reissue. It's kind of a shame that it didn't really give them the fresh start they were hoping. They definitely had a cool sound, much more muscular on some of the rockers and twangy when needed with Clarence White on guitar and good drummer with Gene Parsons. Really in some ways it was way more of a 'band' than the original group, which used a bunch of ringers on the earlier studio stuff. I suppose the fact that McGuinn was the only one left kind of made them seem lame to some. If they would have had a single that would have really landed, it might have been really different, but that is kind of the case of the 2nd half of the Byrds career. There was a lot of music happening in 68-70 to say the least, so I could see how a band, even one with a rep like the Byrds could get lost.
"seems like the easiest thing to do would be for mcguinn to start a solo career"
From what I get reading into all of this, the Byrds were pretty much broke so they were playing live a bunch to kill off some debt. That's the thing I got from an article about Clarence White. It might have been a situation like when Led Zep first toured as the Yardbirds at the beginning...I don't know.
― earlnash, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 23:22 (thirteen years ago) link
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/423727_10150578703543406_593208405_9013388_1130855863_n.jpg1200 pages apparently! good lord.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 18:14 (twelve years ago) link
dude
― Trip Maker, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 18:14 (twelve years ago) link
lol at volume 1 ! guess the second volume is supposed to be about the members' post byrds careers ...
― tylerw, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 18:16 (twelve years ago) link
I love that Michael can't keep a straight face in that photo.Who are they kidding? Nice branch, Crosby!
― Trip Maker, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 18:19 (twelve years ago) link
i'm sure cros was like "this branch ... means something, man!"
― tylerw, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 18:21 (twelve years ago) link
So this is "Timeless Flight" expanded again?
― fit and working again, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i think so. you'd think rogan would be so sick of the byrds by now.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
He believed it played a part in the Kennedy assassination, iirc.
― Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
haha. i actually haven't read timeless flight -- it's good?
― tylerw, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 21:53 (twelve years ago) link
Timeless Flight is very good.
― fit and working again, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 22:25 (twelve years ago) link
Tempted to buy this, despite having bought 2 previous versions of "Timeless Flight". One of my all time favourite music books.
― Wandering Boy Poet, Thursday, 23 February 2012 13:44 (twelve years ago) link
yeah looking forward to reading it. guess it hasn't been published in the US yet? or something?http://www.amazon.com/Byrds-Requiem-Timeless-Johnny-Rogan/dp/0952954087/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1318659492&sr=8-2
― tylerw, Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:31 (twelve years ago) link
I just went through that. Yeah if you look at amazon.co.uk you will see it.
― Can You Please POLL Out Your Window? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 23 February 2012 22:02 (twelve years ago) link
This guy had a deeeep trove, much of it West Coast buckskin, much of it Byrds and related--all crashed with Mega Mama, but he's re-posting, with Chris Hillman and Friends at the top of this page, Untitled-era live Byrds at the bottom, Flying Burritos etc in between, and might not be long til he restores Byrds x FBBhttp://bbchron.blogspot.com/
― dow, Thursday, 23 February 2012 22:28 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i grabbed that fbb/byrds gig before it went down -- very fun stuff!
― tylerw, Thursday, 23 February 2012 22:35 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUOpjDF86yo
― buzza, Monday, 30 July 2012 07:47 (eleven years ago) link
Just reminded my first copy of Timeless flight was a thin paperback back in the 80s. then got the one from like 10 years ago & been wondering how necessary an update was on that.Got the John Einarson Gene Clark book to read sometime in near future too.
― Stevolende, Monday, 30 July 2012 10:46 (eleven years ago) link
did anyone read that latest version of rogan's bio?
― fit and working again, Thursday, 21 March 2013 02:08 (eleven years ago) link
http://24.media.tumblr.com/e7486eb541c1887e7a984467ed73b1a7/tumblr_mkov20xPFt1qa9uo9o1_500.jpg
― tylerw, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 17:25 (eleven years ago) link
man they're too much aren't they
― imago, Friday, 15 July 2016 21:35 (seven years ago) link
you listen to them and it's too much, but you keep listening
their time has come again
― Gabba Gabba Hey in the Hayloft (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 July 2016 21:38 (seven years ago) link
Classic
― mom us (map), Friday, 15 July 2016 21:44 (seven years ago) link
holy shit @ the jesu joy of man's desire bridge in she don't care about time. i thought it was just half man half biscuit who pulled that stuff :D
― imago, Friday, 15 July 2016 22:07 (seven years ago) link
gene is easily the best byrd but younger than yesterday is my favorite album of theirs
― dynamicinterface, Friday, 15 July 2016 22:41 (seven years ago) link
Roger McGuinn might be a totally doofus, but he's clearly the best Byrd.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Friday, 15 July 2016 23:33 (seven years ago) link
Surprised there hasn't been a Best Byrd poll, tbh.
― 24 Hour Sex Ban Man (Tom D.), Saturday, 16 July 2016 11:23 (seven years ago) link
Worst is probably Mike.
― Gabba Gabba Hey in the Hayloft (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 July 2016 12:08 (seven years ago) link
Dave is a distant second-worst.
― Gabba Gabba Hey in the Hayloft (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 July 2016 12:10 (seven years ago) link
Chris I like a lot, especially his bass lines, although I dock him a point or two for being a little sloppy now and then, as well as for his unspectacular multi-instrumentalism. But perhaps I am being too harsh.
― Gabba Gabba Hey in the Hayloft (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 July 2016 12:14 (seven years ago) link
Gene is probably the best songwriter
This is probably true or at the very least he is the most consistent (all the other major songwriters had some real stinkers to go along with their gems). That said I'd also say quality of songwriting matters a little less here since Byrds were always consistently brilliant interpreters of other people's songs.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Saturday, 16 July 2016 14:01 (seven years ago) link
Indeed
― Gabba Gabba Hey in the Hayloft (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 July 2016 17:49 (seven years ago) link
Well Gene Clark was a great songwriter full stop. |seems to have been a pretty flawed human being but it does seem to have fed into his songwriting.
I think that John Einarson biography of him Mr Tambourine Man was pretty good, but most of his bios have been anyway.
― Stevolende, Saturday, 16 July 2016 18:08 (seven years ago) link
yeah that einarson book is excellent.
― new noise, Saturday, 16 July 2016 18:26 (seven years ago) link
Lotta good stuff on this thread too: Byrds POX
― dow, Saturday, 16 July 2016 18:58 (seven years ago) link
I"m sure I said this before but the Byrds' two best albums are Younger Than Yesterday and Notorious, and those are the two albums were Chris Hillman stepped up... he is by far the most underrated Byrd.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Saturday, 16 July 2016 23:54 (seven years ago) link