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A Bronx Tale has no dragons but it does have Chazz Palminteri.

Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:54 (nineteen years ago) link


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TOMBOT, Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Tom you should play that movie as the back drop when you get married.

Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Please, we already decided on Dune.

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:58 (nineteen years ago) link

I love Casino. It's one of those movies that a director couldn't have done first and had deemed a classic, but I already like the director's (and actors') "thing" so much that I'm happy to watch it all day. See also: Jackie Brown, although I do think it's Tarantino's best film in a lot of other ways.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:58 (nineteen years ago) link

WAIT--Nick, does Dune meet your specifications? It doesn't have dragons but it has giant worms which strike me as being similiar in a fashion, to dragons. Is this an ok 3hr long movie?

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:59 (nineteen years ago) link

i havn't been able to enjoy goodfellas since seeing blow.

kephm, Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:59 (nineteen years ago) link

These mob movies need more Frank Vincent, Frank Sivero and Tony Sirico.

Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:01 (nineteen years ago) link

I would really like someone to point me towards any of these films where that ISN'T the case. I mean any story about mobsters spanning multiple decades is going to be shit at the end, there is nothing climactic about watching some wiseguy get old, lose his edge and get thrown in the clink / murdered by his own stooges / enter the witness protection program..

uh goodfellas?

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:11 (nineteen years ago) link

"Goodfellas" is a great film, as I've said, but it's just yet another mob movie. Do we really need more of those?

goodfellas was made 15 years ago!

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:16 (nineteen years ago) link

do we really need ANOTHER rock album?

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Dune may not fit some of the other specification but it does have the original 3-hour-long-movie requirment: Lots and lots of sand.

TOMBOT, Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:18 (nineteen years ago) link

funny that you should mention dune, that movie really reminds me of casino in that it's totally great until about 2/3rds of the way through when it just falls apart

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:19 (nineteen years ago) link

In fact I would have to say that if Scarface, Goodfellas, and Casino had been set on desert planets I would probably just watch those films to the exclusion of all others.

Really though what does everybody think of The Untouchables?

TOMBOT, Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:23 (nineteen years ago) link

rules

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:24 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't think anybody's brought up Mean Streets, which might be my favorite Scorcese pic ever.

Untouchables, like Scarface, is good when I'm getting DePalma-ized rather than Mamet-ized or Stone-ized. There's a LOT more Stone in Scarface than there is Mamet in Untouchables, so I prefer Untouchables.

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:26 (nineteen years ago) link

that sentence kinda broke my brain

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:27 (nineteen years ago) link

anyway untouchables is totally classic!

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:27 (nineteen years ago) link

for every stilted "I will protect this city for it what I am to be doing with my destiny"-type line in Untouchables there's 80 hellish obvious, miserable Stone cliches in Scarface. There's some beautiful trash in Scarface but I find it unwatchable without the ol' FFWD.

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:28 (nineteen years ago) link

man i gotta see scarface again

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:29 (nineteen years ago) link

they should do one of those "director's cut's" of Scarface where DePalma makes the film shorter. His vision was, and I'm barely paraphrasing "Cubans blowing up! COCAINE! GUNS!" and Oliver Stone had this thing about how all the mud people (as well as the gays and the military-industrial complex, but that's in other movies) were going to destroy America (it's a reoccuring theme). If we could just slice some of those scenes out and keep the "FAAHK YOU! *kablooey!*" stuff it'd be super.

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:32 (nineteen years ago) link

i want a dvd with just the donald sutherland scene from jfk

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:34 (nineteen years ago) link

mr x!

kephm, Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Donald Sutherland was totally underutilized in every film discussed on this thread so far

TOMBOT, Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:36 (nineteen years ago) link

I hate lazy cultural experiences. My favourite film is probably Jaws.

These two comments contradict themselves.

So I said how much I liked GoodFellas, pointing out different scenes and ways of ediiting and direction. You said that you don't like it because you're supposed to like it and you hate how frat boys don't do Joe Pesci impressions right, and it's too loooong. No offense, Nick, but you're not making much of an argument here.

And yes, I took more from After Hours than him being covered in paint at the end. It still featured Griffin Dunne and Tommy Chong in it, still had a basic "guy-gets-into-wild-wacky-situations" plot, and still had plain obvious metaphors like guys chasing twenty-dollar bills around and getting into trouble because of it. It's not the worst movie in the world, but Alex is the first person I've ever met who had such a hard-on for this movie. You're right, maybe if I was PP in NYC, I'd dig it more, but for me now, I can see why GoodFellas gets the DVD box treatment and After Hours is only played at eight in the morning on Cinemax.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:36 (nineteen years ago) link

(x-post)And thank god for that.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:38 (nineteen years ago) link

uhh dude after hours just got the dvd treatment

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:38 (nineteen years ago) link

(x-post to Sutherland scene DVD) dude you also have to have the Pesci scenes! AW MAN IT'S A RIDDLE WRAPPED IN A MYSTERY INSIDE AN ENIGMA, MAN!!!

all I ever wanted to be...was a catholic priest...

plus John Candy! YER AS CRAZY AS YO MAMA! GOES TO SHOW ITS IN THE GENES!

Joe Queenan has an essay where he talks about how the proof that Kevin Costner was on the wrong track was Joe Pesci's wig. Any conspiracy that was able to bump off a prez and get away with it would have stopped him and made him where a more believable fro.

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Also how can we have gone this long without mentioning The King of Comedy which is probably next to Goodfellas my favorite Scorcese film.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:39 (nineteen years ago) link

mah fellow Donald Sutherland fans seriously need to see Klute and Invasion of the Body Snatchers if they haven't already. Plus Don't Look Now!

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:40 (nineteen years ago) link

They need to make more gangster movies like Animal House

TOMBOT, Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:40 (nineteen years ago) link

a very good movie (i think scorsese sees it as a failure though, maybe because it bombed) (xxp)

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:41 (nineteen years ago) link

sutherland in body snatchers is one of my favourite performances ever

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:41 (nineteen years ago) link

uhh dude after hours just got the dvd treatment

Oh, a two-disc set with commentary from the cast, documentaries, and the like? I must've missed that, just like I missed it being nominated for Best Film of that year.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:47 (nineteen years ago) link

are you being sarcastic?

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:48 (nineteen years ago) link

oh sorry dude it only got the ONE-disc treatment, yeah it must be a total piece of shit

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Dude people be some nasty bitches when discussing Scorsese films, I think you have all been watching too many Scorsese films

TOMBOT, Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:49 (nineteen years ago) link

fuck you pay me

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Because I'm a loudmouth who can't just sit on my opinion, but I think Scorcese seriously lost something after Taxi Driver (in the book Easy Rides, Raging Bulls they reveal he lost probably 3/4 of his blood stream thanks to cocaine -everyone needs to read this book, few books equally focus on the making of a film AND who the people were fucking) and never quite got it back since. Goodfellas is fun, and that short film Life Lessons in New York Stories is great, but from Raging Bull there's been too much of an overemphasis on style for my tastes. Haven't seen Bringing Out The Dead though or After Hours.

Haha where's the Kundun love???

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:50 (nineteen years ago) link

mah fellow Donald Sutherland fans seriously need to see Klute and Invasion of the Body Snatchers if they haven't already. Plus Don't Look Now!

Fans of Donald Sutherland's ass should rent Don't Look Now first.

Harold Media (kenan), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:50 (nineteen years ago) link

or Animal House!

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Donald's Suthern land, hyuk hyuk

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:51 (nineteen years ago) link

don't forget the dirty dozen.

g--ff (gcannon), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:51 (nineteen years ago) link

it is true that after goodfellas scorsese went into a seriously depressing decline

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:51 (nineteen years ago) link

I blame Age of Innocence!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Name ONE jungle tune which sampled dialogue from that!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Donald Sutherland's best performance - Kelly's Heroes.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:54 (nineteen years ago) link


I like "Casino" a lot...if one can say "the ultimate Sharon Stone" role with a straight face, then say it...and I think De Niro is really, really good in "Casino" as well.

"Goodfellas" is a great movie about food...the mob stuff always seemed somewhat seconday. Paulie shaves the garlic with a razor blade, they had to cook the steaks in a pan, he used too much garlic in the sauce but it was still a good sauce. But yeah, as noted above, the problem with "Goodfellas" is Henry Hill. I think Liotta does a fine job--it's the basic idea. HH's supposed to be a kind of innocent here?

I also like "After Hours" fine, not a great Scorcese film but a good New York movie (which of course all Scorcese films are). Still, Scorcese has never topped "Mean Streets." "Raging Bull" is to me wayyyy overrated. "Gangs of New York" really sucked except for Day-Lewis, bad film of great book. "Taxi Driver" seems somewhat dated '70s film to me...I like the music, though, and it's certainly got its merits. The rest of Scorcese I pretty much dismiss. To me it's all about "Mean Streets," "GFs" and "Casino."

And I love Sutherland and the remake of "Invasion of Body Snatchers." One of the great yuppie-fear movies ever.

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:55 (nineteen years ago) link

HH's supposed to be a kind of innocent here?

?

No, he's supposed to be a criminal. He is, in fact, someone who's very passionate about being a criminal. You can have as much sympathy for that as you choose, but either way, his punishment is poetic.

Harold Media (kenan), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:58 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah he's a really ambiguous character, i don't see what people are having trouble with here

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:01 (nineteen years ago) link


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