Adams has always been a TERRIBLE writer, and his artwork has totally gone downhill in the last twenty years or so too (my suspicion is that there are lots of assistants doing most of the actual drawing/finishing). RIP Dick Giordano.
The 60s/70s Adams-Batmans really were something to look at tho', back in the day
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 8 July 2010 09:07 (thirteen years ago) link
"He's targetting our - EYYOW! guns."
― Pheeel, Thursday, 8 July 2010 09:08 (thirteen years ago) link
why does Batman have a gun...?
― has arlen specter never heard clarence thomas's laugh? (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 8 July 2010 19:32 (thirteen years ago) link
So that he can learn a very important lesson about the Second Amendment. NB: there's a Kevin Nowlan-inked pinup at the back of this that does justice to Yr memories of Adams.
― Well, because whatever happened changed him. (Dr. Superman), Thursday, 8 July 2010 23:10 (thirteen years ago) link
skimmed thru this in the comic bk shop yesterday, even more of a trainwreck than i feared, weirdly a cpl of pages are inked by michael golden. can't believe there's meant to be twelve issues of this shit - has adams ever drawn twelve issues of anything, all in a row?
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 9 July 2010 06:31 (thirteen years ago) link
With a decent artist or two, this could be promising. Am I ready to read two ongoing comic books again? http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/2010/07/14/meet-your-new-detective-comics-writer-scott-snyder/
― Well, because whatever happened changed him. (Dr. Superman), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:12 (thirteen years ago) link
why did i read that? now i want to start buying comics again.
― not everything is a campfire (ian), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't quite get the venom being cut loose on the Adams' Batman. The thing is pretty much a straight up bronze age style comic, which should make sense considering who is making the thing. Clean up a bit of the language from Robin and you could drop this thing straight into a 100 Page Detective Batman Family Giant from 78. Maybe I have a heart or a soft head for such comics, I didn't think it was that bad. I just think fans now over think stuff to an extent.
Maybe they should have put on the yellow circle around the bat to make it obvious, I don't know.
As for the artwork, the guy really hasn't lost much at all, some of the pages are almost 3D. The inking style is more Klaus Janson than say Dick Giordano on a lot of the book, which is some of the difference.
― earlnash, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 22:59 (thirteen years ago) link
http://i.newsarama.com/images/bmody_cv4_02.jpg
― Well, because whatever happened changed him. (Dr. Superman), Monday, 19 July 2010 16:41 (thirteen years ago) link
wtf is happening there
like, is Batman tripping and someone locked him in a hairdresser's basement or something
― HI DERE, Monday, 19 July 2010 16:43 (thirteen years ago) link
lol at the dialogue in that excerpt
― i'm gonna need a +1 so me & a friend can kick you in the balls (forksclovetofu), Monday, 19 July 2010 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link
TRIPPING BALLS.
― Matt M., Monday, 19 July 2010 19:16 (thirteen years ago) link
tripping hairs
― oh sh!t a ¯\⎝⏠___⏠⎠/¯ (sic), Monday, 19 July 2010 23:37 (thirteen years ago) link
bump
― i'm gonna need a +1 so me & a friend can kick you in the balls (forksclovetofu), Friday, 23 July 2010 14:24 (thirteen years ago) link
This Neal Adams Batman is so crazy it makes the All Star Frank Miller Batman look like Papa Spank!
― Well, because whatever happened changed him. (Dr. Superman), Thursday, 7 October 2010 22:21 (thirteen years ago) link
wait, wait, wait, Neal! You drew the bullet coming out her back! You can't take that back! But you did, so OKAY.
― Well, because whatever happened changed him. (Dr. Superman), Thursday, 7 October 2010 22:22 (thirteen years ago) link
"What's worse than finding a worm in an apple. Answer... Finding half a worm." NOT THE RIDDLER WHO SAID THAT EITHER.
― Well, because whatever happened changed him. (Dr. Superman), Thursday, 7 October 2010 22:27 (thirteen years ago) link
and that's before Man-Bat calls Batman a eunuch!
― Well, because whatever happened changed him. (Dr. Superman), Thursday, 7 October 2010 22:29 (thirteen years ago) link
and then Aquaman shows up fresh from the 1988 Calgary Winter Olympics!
― Well, because whatever happened changed him. (Dr. Superman), Thursday, 7 October 2010 22:31 (thirteen years ago) link
scans, please?
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 7 October 2010 22:33 (thirteen years ago) link
NOTE: This is not the actual Riddler, but salsa singer, former Panamanian Minister of Tourism Ruben Blades, really.http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y298/hukl/tastethatreuben.jpg
― Well, because whatever happened changed him. (Dr. Superman), Thursday, 7 October 2010 22:42 (thirteen years ago) link
lulz at gordon
― high speed p-diddy-esque shrimping vessel (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 7 October 2010 22:43 (thirteen years ago) link
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y298/hukl/halfaworm.jpg
― Well, because whatever happened changed him. (Dr. Superman), Thursday, 7 October 2010 22:45 (thirteen years ago) link
whoa
― Such an octopus of a thing. And I have only an inkling! (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 7 October 2010 22:47 (thirteen years ago) link
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y298/hukl/kirk.jpghttp://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y298/hukl/calgary1988.jpg
― Well, because whatever happened changed him. (Dr. Superman), Thursday, 7 October 2010 22:49 (thirteen years ago) link
I like the idea that Batman names each fist a different sandwich, "Taste that reuben!" POW "Have a bite of this Monte Cristo!" BIF!
― Well, because whatever happened changed him. (Dr. Superman), Thursday, 7 October 2010 22:54 (thirteen years ago) link
I hope this comic sells so strongly that its tone gets adopted by all Batman comics so that Neal Adams can hold the distinction of being the guy who took the camp out of Batman and then 40 years later put it back.
― Well, because whatever happened changed him. (Dr. Superman), Thursday, 7 October 2010 23:07 (thirteen years ago) link
thanks you for posting those.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 7 October 2010 23:14 (thirteen years ago) link
wow, i may buy that
― Such an octopus of a thing. And I have only an inkling! (forksclovetofu), Friday, 8 October 2010 00:42 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, I'm making my first comic store trip for two months today. Will definitely have to get this.
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 8 October 2010 14:50 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh my god, this comic.
― Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 9 October 2010 02:42 (thirteen years ago) link
should I buy this just for the mindspasm?
― my opinionation (Hamildan), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 14:52 (thirteen years ago) link
wait, when did Aquaman get his hand back
also when did he start killing people
― I lettered in Sam and Carl (HI DERE), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 15:37 (thirteen years ago) link
doesn't he get a new hand every three years or so?
also I don't know but I would assume he was killing dudes when he had a HARPOON for a hand
― bitchmaid (sic), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 23:31 (thirteen years ago) link
like, presumably he wasn't killing fish with it
but
ut ut ut ut take it to "Can someone tell Aquaman why not?!?""
― Brick Frog! (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 02:04 (thirteen years ago) link
as someone who doesn't know much about comics i have to ask, did aquaman always have a mullet?
― http://tinypic.com/r/s0wvar/7 (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 03:06 (thirteen years ago) link
not until the 90s
(maybe 80s? that Craig Hamilton mini with the blue costume?)
― bitchmaid (sic), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 03:33 (thirteen years ago) link
I've only ever seen this ad, dunno if that's mullet or bubbles
http://namtab.com/aquablog/aquaman1986ad.gif
― bitchmaid (sic), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 03:35 (thirteen years ago) link
In my memory that's a mix between a classic mullet and a Lief Garrett 70s winged monstrosity. By the way, that's his uniform in the mini - he looks like a figure skater covered in kelp.
Despite all that, I remember liking the story. I was young and dumb, I'm sure.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 03:44 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.poeghostal.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/aquaman.jpg
― bitchmaid (sic), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 04:45 (thirteen years ago) link
Didn't Aquaman have a semi-long hair in the 90s, not a mullet? It was Supes who had the horrible mullet.
I thought Aquaman was now back to his "classic" (pre-90s) look, but apparently not, at least not in this comic.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 06:39 (thirteen years ago) link
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_h9LIEjK3ohY/RsjlsfowRZI/AAAAAAAAAzw/VQaR_dHuud4/s400/aquaman-harpoon.jpg http://www.comics101.com/comics101//images/view.php?src=../news/Comics%20101/224/Aquaman2.jpg http://namtab.com/aquablog/hawkman15pg24.gif
Clearly the 90s Aquaman was inspired by Kurt Cobain, not Don Johnson.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 06:44 (thirteen years ago) link
Interestingly, Neal Adams has no use for continuity. I think it's supposed to be an early adventure, but it's so clearly just Neal Adams doing things the way they should be. As we shall next issue when Batman meets the current president, Ultimate Warrior.
― Well, because whatever happened changed him. (Dr. Superman), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 07:25 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, the Hamilton mini was 1986 [xp to tuomas]
― bitchmaid (sic), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 08:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Aquaman was iirc given his hand back by The Lady Of The Lake in return for defeating The Thirst, although this was a water filled glove kind of affair. I think his proper hand came back after he used the bones of it to pull Sub Diego back onto dry land while he was the Dweller In The Depths and was properly fixed while he was a Black Lantern.
I should get out more.
― Dame Anna NAGL (aldo), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 16:07 (thirteen years ago) link
Fucking DC. Return of Bruce Wayne is running so late that he's already back in these bloody 'Road Home' things. Why don't they delay THEm so it all makes sense. And why is Return running late anyway? Each issue has a different artist and they still can't get it right. Fucksake!
― buildings with goats on the roof (James Morrison), Friday, 15 October 2010 02:53 (thirteen years ago) link
Morrison's at fault there, as evidence by artists dropping out when the scripts don't arrive and rush-jobs by hacks going to print late instead.
― Mary Lynn Ice Cube (sic), Friday, 15 October 2010 04:49 (thirteen years ago) link
kinda goes with morrison, but can't believe they don't make him turn in the whole fucking series in advance at this point.
― naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 08:37 (thirteen years ago) link
The Archers has only been running for 69 years
― erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 03:04 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS4QGEQaclk
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 03:08 (three years ago) link
that's TV iirc
― erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 05:51 (three years ago) link
Technically it's youtube
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 06:39 (three years ago) link
guessing this isn't technically radio tbf
batman-begins-david-s-goyer-podcast-spotify-1234786099/
― erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 06:54 (three years ago) link
Update on the storage locker guy: https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/batman-comics-auction-stolen-randy-lawrence
― it's AG in your faaaace.... (morrisp), Sunday, 15 November 2020 04:12 (three years ago) link
Just to say Cliff Chiang‘s Catwoman miniseries is friggin DELIGHTFUL and I recommend it HIGHLY. It’s a standard DKR “what if but old and more dystopia” miniseries setup, but the execution is wonderful. WHY ARE NOT MORE COMICS LILE THIS, THINKS OLD MAN
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 17 January 2022 00:04 (two years ago) link
Heard a lot of good things about this! Also about gentrification supposedly?
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 17 January 2022 11:52 (two years ago) link
Yeah it feels like the first DC comic I've read since the 90s that was **about something** instead of the usual self-regarding DC bullshit about **what I means to be an icon** etc etc
But it wears all that lightly - mostly it's just a delightful, grounded, fun "one more heist" story with a good villain, and makes a couple staple characters (Croc, Riddler) more interesting than I've seen them before, possibly ever. It's **really** good if it's Chiang's first writing job.
Kind of reminds me of the Cooke runs on Catwoman and Spirit in the '00s
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 17 January 2022 17:01 (two years ago) link
It's fun. Really love his artwork
― Nhex, Monday, 17 January 2022 18:12 (two years ago) link
(surprised by how much this was, £5.60 for 50 pages on comixology, but then wonder if that's just inflation for you)
(TDKR was $2.95 in 1986 which would be $8.84 in 2020, about £6.50, physical copy, so maybe ok)
(but i will wait for a sale)
― koogs, Monday, 17 January 2022 20:01 (two years ago) link
I’m mostly still a shameful stealer but this is the first time I’ve read and enjoyed something enough to buy it in print
Don’t want to oversell it! But it’s definitely actually-good not graded-on-a-curve-good
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 17 January 2022 21:32 (two years ago) link
Lonely City is a Black Label book, so it's being printed in oversize magazine format. That's probably why the digital price seemed jacked up, to match the physical
― Nhex, Monday, 17 January 2022 21:46 (two years ago) link
This does look cool, thx for the recYeah the two physical issues (so far) seem to be $8.99 / $11.99 for 48 pgs. (each); vs. $2.95 cover price for my 1986 copy of TDKR 3 (46 pgs.) = $7.50 in 2021 dollas… I’ll wait for the collection, I guess.
― Rockin’, and rollin’, and whatnot (morrisp), Monday, 17 January 2022 21:52 (two years ago) link
my 20th anniversary hardback copy of tdkr now goes on ebay for less than i paid for it, even before inflation. and i don't think i've actually read it, other than the extra bits.
but every 5 years that seems to have an anniversary edition. or they decide to reprint it without the colouring or some crap. did they ever fix the swastika tattoo on that one woman's chest?
― koogs, Monday, 17 January 2022 22:30 (two years ago) link
omg
I am once again thinking about how an obscure PBS documentary got Adam West (RIP) to read 20 seconds’ worth of narration from Frank Miller’s The Dark Knight Returns, and how those 20 seconds are my favorite Batman movie: pic.twitter.com/eKenX2hz6H— Abraham Riesman אברהם ריסמן (@abrahamjoseph) March 14, 2022
― rob, Monday, 14 March 2022 14:12 (two years ago) link
wow!
― mh, Monday, 14 March 2022 14:39 (two years ago) link
Strongly dislike Riseman, but good clip!
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 14 March 2022 15:06 (two years ago) link
he's in that category of people I see on twitter (I don't follow him) but don't really know what their ~deal~ is
― rob, Monday, 14 March 2022 15:11 (two years ago) link
His Stan Lee biography is really good (if, like me, you're firmly in the Stan = old fraud camp)
― Ward Fowler, Monday, 14 March 2022 15:13 (two years ago) link
I believe he was involved in some online harassment a while back, that put him firmly on my “fuck this guy” list, but I may be misremembering
Otherwise I just hate the way he writes, he seems part of that AV Club influenced-turn in alt-weekly style culture writing to overinflated word counts and boring personal anecdote
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 14 March 2022 15:37 (two years ago) link
Is the new movie any good? y/n
― u swear (morrisp), Monday, 14 March 2022 15:55 (two years ago) link
(Or maybe that’s a pitchfork thing but I don’t read pitchfork.)
Anyway: Adam west really hits that both-funny-and-scary sweet spot with this. Should have had him on all-star Batman too
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 14 March 2022 15:55 (two years ago) link
morrisp, there’s a thread Robert Pattinson IS The Batman
I would say it’s fine, Adam West reading the script might be better
― mh, Monday, 14 March 2022 18:27 (two years ago) link
I ended up with this huge hardcover of a thing called Gotham Central Omnibus (a guy was cleaning out his office, and gave it to my wife). Is it good / worth getting into? Looks like Batman isn’t in it very much!
― begrudgingly bound by duty of candor (morrisp), Wednesday, 13 April 2022 04:39 (two years ago) link
it's decent pulp - Rucka and Brubaker writing different shifts of weary regular cops but! in a supervillain world
― beepy fridges (sic), Wednesday, 13 April 2022 05:23 (two years ago) link
very fond memories of it
― Nhex, Wednesday, 13 April 2022 06:08 (two years ago) link
The first arc is a little stiff, but after that it gets better and better.
Greg Rucka is a good influence on Ed Brubaker but an inferior writer in almost every way. One Brubaker leaves, it gets less interesting, but it's still worth finishing.
It exists in an interesting space where crime writers still wanted to riff on Homicide: Life on the Streets (a huge influence, even down to the colouring) but no one was really watching The Wire yet.
Allen and Montoya were two fun characters that DC lost sight of because of racism and editorial carelessness
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 13 April 2022 12:17 (two years ago) link
*Once not One
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 13 April 2022 12:18 (two years ago) link
Really nice Michael Lark art on the early issues.
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 13 April 2022 12:25 (two years ago) link
Montoya hasn't been completely forgotten at least, she later became The Question II and has showed up in various films and TV series. Crispus Allen for sure though
― Nhex, Wednesday, 13 April 2022 15:47 (two years ago) link