Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

you were hoping jordan posted more results tonight

Yeah, I want to go to bed because I'm bored shitless with endless crappy speculating, but it's fascinating (the mechanics of the speculation, not the actual shite that's been spouted from all angles in absence of clear fact)

(presume I should have marked that as an xpost since it probably replies equally to the post about whichever ILM poll is being referred to above)

some footage now and you can hear 1 shot then dogs barking

it was either 'put the gun away' or 'get the dog away'

guy's had a gun in view for about six hours, nice idea to try and get him to put it away. should have thought of that earlier really.

Love the fact that Sky keep replaying that clip that starts with a guy saying "the officer's just fucked off".

Dear Kay Burley, please stop saying "Blues and twos", it is very annoying. Britain's probably most expensive manhunt. Probably. JOURNALISTIC FACTUAL ACCURACY THERE, FOLKS.

I still hate her. Back to the Beeb.

just waiting till I'm sure Lex is asleep so I can safely celebrate some indie pop...

I'm pretty sure that a couple of minutes ago a BBC person suggested that the heavy rain accelerated the ending. Wha.

lex is probably out clubbing

or are you his flatmate? lol

Kay Burley suggested earlier that it might end because the police were putting on their waterproofs and Moat was just wearing a jacket and hoodie. Despite the fact he's been hiding in a fucking drain and living rough for the best part of a week, seems exactly the sort that would give it up at the sight of a spot of bad weather.

this kay burley sounds like a right idiot, or her scriptwriters do maybe

but they said it was an overflow that was dry, the daily mail might even say it was luxurious!

if faced with a choice between getting wet and shooting yourself in the neck, I'm sure we'd all do the same.

hmm, sky now suggesting they did rush him and it wasnt after the shot.

Pash, she's all idiot all by herself.

Oh well, living in a dry drain for a week, that's different, no wonder he'd rather be shot than get rained on.

xpost mindmeld :-)

I love how ailsa wants to go to sleep but just cant drag herself away!

I already explained why. But I'm glad it's keeping you entertained.

And now I really am going to bed, because I have stuff do in the morning. Have fun with your speculation!

you will be back!

can't believe the police would try and jump the bloke if he was still armed, no matter how shit the weather is or how dark it was or how tired he was. something else has happened here.

yeah it doesnt make any sense, plus that guy said he saw it from his bedroom window and the shot was fired then they rushed them. So sky reporter probably hasn't heard that and is just talking shite.

rushed him

my guess fwiw
moat has gotten increasingly close to showing that he was going to shoot himself, so police sneak up behind in dark to get as close as possible. moat has noticed sneaking police, he's either fired at them or in panic mode has made a hash of killing himself (more likely). cops jump him.

or the hashed suicide ran almost parallel with the cops trying to stop him, aka jumping him.

stop talking about the weather! it's making me think they're all more deliriously tired than i am.

too many scenarios, so who knows.

the eyewitness guy def said they only rushed him after the shot was fired.

Sky reporter james matthews still going with the police rushed him line. Maybe he's been told off the record?

k I'm done for the night, time to pray that Gazza was somehow involved (reverse causality huzzah).

i'd say that he's tried to shoot his own neck out and missed half of it, but how the fuck could he miss a neck that fucking big!

god i'm tired

police apparently say he shot himself. Nothing about when the police rushed in.

i think a statement might come soon

I think he's shot himself and then they rushed over. Makes the most sense. The police could have waited and waited with no threat to the public or themselves.

I'm in the US, don't have a telly and usually keep up with the news online but have been insanely busy the last few days. So I'm basically coming to this now with all the Gazza stuff and it's really, really surreal!

yeah seems the most likely conclusion. xp

the gazza stuff added a WTF element that no disgruntled shooting story has ever seen the likes of before.

I was honestly convinced for a short time that my UK friends had found a way to thoroughly mess with my head and I couldn't work out how so many people on Twitter etc were in on the joke.

it really was a pure WTF moment that could never be repeated again. Noone could have thought he would show up (not even his agent)

i can see why people thought it was a joke

going to bed now, been unreal.

skys sources saying moat is dead.

dead on arrival apparently.

where's EJ Thribb when you need him eh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZHnWpLQtyo

"He's killed someone, which is not nice really"

Sky reporter james matthews still going with the police rushed him line. Maybe he's been told off the record?

― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname),

oh come on it's murdoch news, they prob just made it up!

^ this. Find it hard to believe anything I hear on Sky News, would be interested as to why pfunkboy thinks it's the best news channel. FWIW, I'm no huge fan of 24 hour round the clock waiting-for-something-to-happen blethering shite news*, but if something's happening, I'd rather watch the Beeb.

(*last night was pretty much confirmation of this, btw)

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01676/police-rothbury_1676451c.jpg

( http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7882762/Raoul-Moat-Gazza-arrives-in-Rothbury-to-offer-his-support.html )