I already explained why. But I'm glad it's keeping you entertained.
― ailsa, Saturday, 10 July 2010 01:05 (thirteen years ago) link
And now I really am going to bed, because I have stuff do in the morning. Have fun with your speculation!
― ailsa, Saturday, 10 July 2010 01:06 (thirteen years ago) link
you will be back!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 10 July 2010 01:07 (thirteen years ago) link
can't believe the police would try and jump the bloke if he was still armed, no matter how shit the weather is or how dark it was or how tired he was. something else has happened here.
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Saturday, 10 July 2010 01:08 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah it doesnt make any sense, plus that guy said he saw it from his bedroom window and the shot was fired then they rushed them. So sky reporter probably hasn't heard that and is just talking shite.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 10 July 2010 01:09 (thirteen years ago) link
rushed him
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 10 July 2010 01:10 (thirteen years ago) link
my guess fwiwmoat has gotten increasingly close to showing that he was going to shoot himself, so police sneak up behind in dark to get as close as possible. moat has noticed sneaking police, he's either fired at them or in panic mode has made a hash of killing himself (more likely). cops jump him.
or the hashed suicide ran almost parallel with the cops trying to stop him, aka jumping him.
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Saturday, 10 July 2010 01:13 (thirteen years ago) link
stop talking about the weather! it's making me think they're all more deliriously tired than i am.
― Merdeyeux, Saturday, 10 July 2010 01:15 (thirteen years ago) link
too many scenarios, so who knows.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 10 July 2010 01:17 (thirteen years ago) link
the eyewitness guy def said they only rushed him after the shot was fired.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 10 July 2010 01:18 (thirteen years ago) link
Sky reporter james matthews still going with the police rushed him line. Maybe he's been told off the record?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 10 July 2010 01:21 (thirteen years ago) link
k I'm done for the night, time to pray that Gazza was somehow involved (reverse causality huzzah).
― Merdeyeux, Saturday, 10 July 2010 01:21 (thirteen years ago) link
i'd say that he's tried to shoot his own neck out and missed half of it, but how the fuck could he miss a neck that fucking big!
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Saturday, 10 July 2010 01:26 (thirteen years ago) link
god i'm tired
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Saturday, 10 July 2010 01:27 (thirteen years ago) link
police apparently say he shot himself. Nothing about when the police rushed in.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 10 July 2010 01:27 (thirteen years ago) link
i think a statement might come soon
I think he's shot himself and then they rushed over. Makes the most sense. The police could have waited and waited with no threat to the public or themselves.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 10 July 2010 01:28 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm in the US, don't have a telly and usually keep up with the news online but have been insanely busy the last few days. So I'm basically coming to this now with all the Gazza stuff and it's really, really surreal!
― Not the real Village People, Saturday, 10 July 2010 01:30 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah seems the most likely conclusion. xp
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Saturday, 10 July 2010 01:30 (thirteen years ago) link
the gazza stuff added a WTF element that no disgruntled shooting story has ever seen the likes of before.
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Saturday, 10 July 2010 01:31 (thirteen years ago) link
I was honestly convinced for a short time that my UK friends had found a way to thoroughly mess with my head and I couldn't work out how so many people on Twitter etc were in on the joke.
― Not the real Village People, Saturday, 10 July 2010 01:33 (thirteen years ago) link
it really was a pure WTF moment that could never be repeated again. Noone could have thought he would show up (not even his agent)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 10 July 2010 01:34 (thirteen years ago) link
i can see why people thought it was a joke
going to bed now, been unreal.
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Saturday, 10 July 2010 01:44 (thirteen years ago) link
skys sources saying moat is dead.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 10 July 2010 01:51 (thirteen years ago) link
dead on arrival apparently.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 10 July 2010 01:55 (thirteen years ago) link
where's EJ Thribb when you need him eh
― RIP la petite mort (acoleuthic), Saturday, 10 July 2010 02:24 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZHnWpLQtyo
"He's killed someone, which is not nice really"
― ailsa, Saturday, 10 July 2010 08:09 (thirteen years ago) link
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname),
oh come on it's murdoch news, they prob just made it up!
― dead flower :( (Pashmina), Saturday, 10 July 2010 08:30 (thirteen years ago) link
^ this. Find it hard to believe anything I hear on Sky News, would be interested as to why pfunkboy thinks it's the best news channel. FWIW, I'm no huge fan of 24 hour round the clock waiting-for-something-to-happen blethering shite news*, but if something's happening, I'd rather watch the Beeb.
(*last night was pretty much confirmation of this, btw)
― ailsa, Saturday, 10 July 2010 08:36 (thirteen years ago) link
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01676/police-rothbury_1676451c.jpg
( http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7882762/Raoul-Moat-Gazza-arrives-in-Rothbury-to-offer-his-support.html )
― StanM, Saturday, 10 July 2010 08:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh, it's everywhere, that pic. (n° 3 here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk/10583023.stm )
― StanM, Saturday, 10 July 2010 08:53 (thirteen years ago) link
So gazza doesn't really know him right?
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Saturday, 10 July 2010 09:34 (thirteen years ago) link
Moat looks like any steroid pumped bouncer you'd see down the Bigg Market, Gazza just can't tell them apart.
― State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Saturday, 10 July 2010 09:56 (thirteen years ago) link
Gascoigne's agent, Kenny Shepherd, said: "He's doing what? I am sitting having an evening meal in Majorca. I'm speechless."
gazza calls him "moaty" so he must know him
― D, dilly, dillies, dill, d-bombs (history mayne), Saturday, 10 July 2010 10:12 (thirteen years ago) link
He wasn't lying about being speechless, he even forgot the word "dinner"
― StanM, Saturday, 10 July 2010 10:18 (thirteen years ago) link
omfg that gazza thing actually happened
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Saturday, 10 July 2010 10:56 (thirteen years ago) link
Middle class dude trying to play it down for his working class clients tiptoes thru the "dinner"/"tea" minefield.
― ain't too proud to blog (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 July 2010 11:00 (thirteen years ago) link
Calling it a meal is lower middle class, which is x10000 times worse than being middle or working class.
― THIS BOOK EQUAL CONJOB (suzy), Saturday, 10 July 2010 12:56 (thirteen years ago) link
Maybe he did say dinner or supper and the paper helpfully translated it for us simple kibble/gruel/trough folk.
― StanM, Saturday, 10 July 2010 13:07 (thirteen years ago) link
A friend of mine has an Estuary accent and when she says 'meal' it comes out 'meaw'. AAAAGGH.
― THIS BOOK EQUAL CONJOB (suzy), Saturday, 10 July 2010 13:09 (thirteen years ago) link
...
― conrad, Saturday, 10 July 2010 13:29 (thirteen years ago) link
Temporary Chief Constable Sue Sim told a news conference: "Right up until that time police officers were striving to persude Mr Moat to give himself up peacefully."During this time, officers discharged a taser, however this did not prevent his death."She would not take questions after the media briefing, but from the wording of her statement it can only be assumed Moat was hit with the tasers before he shot himself.When the incident happened, Sky News cameras filming with night vision technology picked up frantic shouting from the scene.Sky's crime correspondent Martin Brunt said when you listen to the recording, you can hear a crying sound moments before the fatal shot rings out.He said tasers give a fleeting feeling of intense pain, and usually elicit an involuntary wail from the victim, and this may be the sound of Moat being hit.Firearms experts said it is possible that the high voltage shock may have caused him to flinch and pull the trigger as he held the shotgun to his neck in the pouring rain.Up until now, police would only say "no gunshots" were fired by officer. The matter will be investigated by the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC).Around half an hour later, ambulance staff were allowed onto the scene.He was seen being wheeled on a trolley into Newcastle General Hospital with a sheet covering his head. Moat was confirmed dead at 2.20am.
"During this time, officers discharged a taser, however this did not prevent his death."
She would not take questions after the media briefing, but from the wording of her statement it can only be assumed Moat was hit with the tasers before he shot himself.
When the incident happened, Sky News cameras filming with night vision technology picked up frantic shouting from the scene.
Sky's crime correspondent Martin Brunt said when you listen to the recording, you can hear a crying sound moments before the fatal shot rings out.
He said tasers give a fleeting feeling of intense pain, and usually elicit an involuntary wail from the victim, and this may be the sound of Moat being hit.
Firearms experts said it is possible that the high voltage shock may have caused him to flinch and pull the trigger as he held the shotgun to his neck in the pouring rain.
Up until now, police would only say "no gunshots" were fired by officer. The matter will be investigated by the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC).
Around half an hour later, ambulance staff were allowed onto the scene.
He was seen being wheeled on a trolley into Newcastle General Hospital with a sheet covering his head. Moat was confirmed dead at 2.20am.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 10 July 2010 15:49 (thirteen years ago) link
great use of night vision
― D, dilly, dillies, dill, d-bombs (history mayne), Saturday, 10 July 2010 15:57 (thirteen years ago) link
have sky news just been running this story all day? everytime i switch on i see first the night vision pic, then that tazer holding sausage faced copper photo.
― Guru Meditation (Ste), Saturday, 10 July 2010 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link
Not seen sky all day, so no idea.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 10 July 2010 20:36 (thirteen years ago) link
as a direct result of all of this, i have now read a full page of what barbara ellen thinks about various topics. another reason to harbour ill feelings towards the recently-departed mr moat
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Sunday, 11 July 2010 01:59 (thirteen years ago) link
Not from Moat...
sorry lots of Bberry tweets in dark running thru peoples, gardens evading cops - some spelling may have gone astray
http://twitter.com/alextomo/status/18152084130
― Ned Trifle II, Sunday, 11 July 2010 20:04 (thirteen years ago) link
The Gazza intervention is one of the funniest and saddest things ever.
― rhythm fixated member (chap), Sunday, 11 July 2010 20:15 (thirteen years ago) link
Here we go again:
Six Dead, 10 Hurt In Albuquerque Shooting
This after my coworker was just fired this morning...
― SNEEZED GOING DOWN STEPS, PAIN WHEN PUTTING SOCKS ON (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 12 July 2010 18:29 (thirteen years ago) link