Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

yeah it doesnt make any sense, plus that guy said he saw it from his bedroom window and the shot was fired then they rushed them. So sky reporter probably hasn't heard that and is just talking shite.

rushed him

my guess fwiw
moat has gotten increasingly close to showing that he was going to shoot himself, so police sneak up behind in dark to get as close as possible. moat has noticed sneaking police, he's either fired at them or in panic mode has made a hash of killing himself (more likely). cops jump him.

or the hashed suicide ran almost parallel with the cops trying to stop him, aka jumping him.

stop talking about the weather! it's making me think they're all more deliriously tired than i am.

too many scenarios, so who knows.

the eyewitness guy def said they only rushed him after the shot was fired.

Sky reporter james matthews still going with the police rushed him line. Maybe he's been told off the record?

k I'm done for the night, time to pray that Gazza was somehow involved (reverse causality huzzah).

i'd say that he's tried to shoot his own neck out and missed half of it, but how the fuck could he miss a neck that fucking big!

god i'm tired

police apparently say he shot himself. Nothing about when the police rushed in.

i think a statement might come soon

I think he's shot himself and then they rushed over. Makes the most sense. The police could have waited and waited with no threat to the public or themselves.

I'm in the US, don't have a telly and usually keep up with the news online but have been insanely busy the last few days. So I'm basically coming to this now with all the Gazza stuff and it's really, really surreal!

yeah seems the most likely conclusion. xp

the gazza stuff added a WTF element that no disgruntled shooting story has ever seen the likes of before.

I was honestly convinced for a short time that my UK friends had found a way to thoroughly mess with my head and I couldn't work out how so many people on Twitter etc were in on the joke.

it really was a pure WTF moment that could never be repeated again. Noone could have thought he would show up (not even his agent)

i can see why people thought it was a joke

going to bed now, been unreal.

skys sources saying moat is dead.

dead on arrival apparently.

where's EJ Thribb when you need him eh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZHnWpLQtyo

"He's killed someone, which is not nice really"

Sky reporter james matthews still going with the police rushed him line. Maybe he's been told off the record?

― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname),

oh come on it's murdoch news, they prob just made it up!

^ this. Find it hard to believe anything I hear on Sky News, would be interested as to why pfunkboy thinks it's the best news channel. FWIW, I'm no huge fan of 24 hour round the clock waiting-for-something-to-happen blethering shite news*, but if something's happening, I'd rather watch the Beeb.

(*last night was pretty much confirmation of this, btw)

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01676/police-rothbury_1676451c.jpg

( http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7882762/Raoul-Moat-Gazza-arrives-in-Rothbury-to-offer-his-support.html )

Oh, it's everywhere, that pic. (n° 3 here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk/10583023.stm )

So gazza doesn't really know him right?

Moat looks like any steroid pumped bouncer you'd see down the Bigg Market, Gazza just can't tell them apart.

Gascoigne's agent, Kenny Shepherd, said: "He's doing what? I am sitting having an evening meal in Majorca. I'm speechless."

gazza calls him "moaty" so he must know him

He wasn't lying about being speechless, he even forgot the word "dinner"

omfg that gazza thing actually happened

He wasn't lying about being speechless, he even forgot the word "dinner"

Middle class dude trying to play it down for his working class clients tiptoes thru the "dinner"/"tea" minefield.

Calling it a meal is lower middle class, which is x10000 times worse than being middle or working class.

Maybe he did say dinner or supper and the paper helpfully translated it for us simple kibble/gruel/trough folk.

A friend of mine has an Estuary accent and when she says 'meal' it comes out 'meaw'. AAAAGGH.

...

Temporary Chief Constable Sue Sim told a news conference: "Right up until that time police officers were striving to persude Mr Moat to give himself up peacefully.

"During this time, officers discharged a taser, however this did not prevent his death."

She would not take questions after the media briefing, but from the wording of her statement it can only be assumed Moat was hit with the tasers before he shot himself.

When the incident happened, Sky News cameras filming with night vision technology picked up frantic shouting from the scene.

Sky's crime correspondent Martin Brunt said when you listen to the recording, you can hear a crying sound moments before the fatal shot rings out.

He said tasers give a fleeting feeling of intense pain, and usually elicit an involuntary wail from the victim, and this may be the sound of Moat being hit.

Firearms experts said it is possible that the high voltage shock may have caused him to flinch and pull the trigger as he held the shotgun to his neck in the pouring rain.

Up until now, police would only say "no gunshots" were fired by officer. The matter will be investigated by the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC).

Around half an hour later, ambulance staff were allowed onto the scene.

He was seen being wheeled on a trolley into Newcastle General Hospital with a sheet covering his head. Moat was confirmed dead at 2.20am.

When the incident happened, Sky News cameras filming with night vision technology picked up frantic shouting from the scene.

great use of night vision

have sky news just been running this story all day? everytime i switch on i see first the night vision pic, then that tazer holding sausage faced copper photo.

Not seen sky all day, so no idea.

as a direct result of all of this, i have now read a full page of what barbara ellen thinks about various topics. another reason to harbour ill feelings towards the recently-departed mr moat

Not from Moat...

sorry lots of Bberry tweets in dark running thru peoples, gardens evading cops - some spelling may have gone astray

http://twitter.com/alextomo/status/18152084130

The Gazza intervention is one of the funniest and saddest things ever.

Here we go again:

Six Dead, 10 Hurt In Albuquerque Shooting

This after my coworker was just fired this morning...

Host: “Hello Paul!”
Paul Gascoigne: “Hello!”
Host: “Good evening – you are live on Real Radio. I just wonder… Tell us about Raoul Moat. The Raoul Moat that you know.”
PG: “Raoul Moat, er Raoul, I knew him years ago. He used to be a bouncer in Newcastle. I knew him a lot of years since I was a young kid, when I played for Newcastle [United]. He was like a gentleman – someone must have wound him up or done summat, right. And all of a sudden I just listened to the radio right, I mean on TV news. Obviously he’s killed someone and he’s shot two. Right?”
Host: “Well…”
PG: “…Doesn’t matter. He’s killed someone. Which is not nice, really. Obviously he must have been on drugs, um, and he’s shot two people, right. Now I’ve heard on the news that obviously the drugs must have worn off. Now he’s willing to give in. Right?”
Host: “I think we have to point out that…”
PG: “…No, please, get a hold of me, no, hear me out… He’s a lovely bloke – I know that – so at the end of the day I think he’s frightened in case, um, he’s put his gun down. I know for a fact he will he put his gun down but I think he’s scared in case the police shoot him and kill him. The drugs have worn off. All he wants to do is surrender. And at the end of the day when you shoot someone, I think, and er, shoot, kill someone and shoot two others… You may get, what? Twelve days, twelve years, twelve…”
Host: “Paul, Paul, Paul… Well we don’t know about that exactly. But just tell us, what would you say…”
PG: “Twelve years, could be about six and you’re out. He’s a good lad.”
Host: “If he could hear a message from you, Gazza, what would you say to him tonight?”
PG: “Well I think the police get hold… Listen, I drove from Newcastle in a taxi to Rothbury. Cost a lot of money. I brought a dressing gown for him, I brought a big jacket, I brought some chicken, some bread… I know you’re going to love this one: I brought him a can of lager, I brought him a fishing rod cause I heard he’s by the river. And I brought a fishing rod too – we’ll fish together, I’ll have a chat with him, just talk and… ’cause I think I’m the only man… I can help him through this cause I’ve…”
Host: “So Gazza, are you going to go to the police and say, let me, let me, let me help you here? I know Raoul Moat. I can help you negotiate. I can help you sort the situation out.
PG: “I’ve just spoke to the police.”
Host: “What did they say Gazza?”
PG: “That he, well er, er, well… Terry was next to us taking photos and the copper went, police, and I said ‘Listen, I know the guy, he’s a nice guy,’ I said er… ‘I want to go through, where you have everything all cordoned off, I want to get through there,’ but the police wouldn’t let us so that was a waste of time saying, ‘Oh, I knew him’ because they were being frightened he might shoot me, you know? But I told them, ‘He will not shoot me.’”
Host: “Well, it’s a dangerous situation though, Gazza, isn’t it?”
PG: “Hey I’m not scared – I’ve just been in a car crash, I’ve just hit the wall at 90 miles per hour. I survived that, I’m sure I can survive a bullet. Knowing my luck he’d probably miss.”
Host: “So what you’re saying is that you want to go in there, you want to help negotiate?”
PG: “… The police know I want to go in there. I’ve got a jacket, I’ve got a dressing gown, I’ve got some chicken, I’ve got some bread, I’ve got a can of lager, I’ve got a fishing rod, um, I’ve got my fishing rod, I’m willing to sit down, to shout, ‘Moaty, it’s Gazza!’ All I want to shout is ‘Moaty, it’s Gazza, where are you?’ and I guarantee he will shout his name out, ‘I’m here!’ and me and him could sit and chat, have a little bit of fishing and all I’ll tell him, ‘Moaty, listen…’”
Host: “And you think you could sort it out?”
Host 2: “So if you like a man to man chat, with him, two pals on a riverbank?”
PG: “Yeah, yeah, two friends on a riverbank from Newcastle and all those years we’ll say is ‘Why don’t you just, you know, put the gun down, throw it in the river’ and say ‘Look Moaty, the worst is… the worst you might get a 12-year stretch, the police aren’t going to kill you,’ because I know he’s willing to give in now. Whatever he was on has worn off. I mean the police are not going to kill you, he might do a 12-year stretch, obviously for killing someone, which is not very nice, obviously. He did it cause he was high on drugs, probably, right?”

Could have used the fishing rod to stealthily take his shotgun off him while you diverted his attention with the can of lager. Fucking n00bs.

"Killing someone, which is not very nice, obviously."!!!!
"Killing someone, which is not very nice, obviously."!!!!
"Killing someone, which is not very nice, obviously."!!!!
"Killing someone, which is not very nice, obviously."!!!!

Gazza telling it like it is!

note to self: never hire Gazza as a defence lawyer