Lifter Puller, Rock and Roll!

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Yeah, you pretty much fucked up.

scott m (mcd), Thursday, 17 July 2003 18:39 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...
Just wanted to add, in case one is unaware

http://www.thebrokerdealer.net/

is the still functional website for Craig Finn electronica side-project mentioned above. The site has 4 mp3s available... are they others out there??

There is some other band called broker/dealer out there too now.

if anyone is willing to share a copy of a LP live show, please let me know.. thanks.

Matt Sab, Tuesday, 26 August 2003 13:21 (twenty years ago) link

Did anyone go to that Hold Steady show at Southpaw on Fri? Review??? I can't believe I missed it, what a line up.

scott m (mcd), Tuesday, 26 August 2003 15:59 (twenty years ago) link

I listened to that Fiestas Fiascos thing twice and still couldn't see what all the fuss was about ... it was OK, but ...

brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 03:13 (twenty years ago) link

she lifts those lips like a leech up to the Sex On the Beach

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 03:17 (twenty years ago) link

listen to it 100 times, duh!!

Sonny A. (Keiko), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 03:18 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
I like these guys now.

miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 22:29 (eighteen years ago) link

i told you so. didn't i tell you? huh, didn't i? it was only a matter of time...

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 22:47 (eighteen years ago) link

I like Hold Steady, but I still think Half Dead and Dynamite is the best record Finn ever made.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 22:48 (eighteen years ago) link

I only kept half of Separation Sunday though. HALF, dammit. And I think I like Lifter Puller more than Hold Steady, though I've just been listening to Soft-Rock and Almost Killed Me with a bunch of other albums on windows media player shuffle recently when I decided that yes, Craig Finn, is a good thing. I haven't heard Fiestas + Fiascos yet, it might SUCK.

miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 22:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Nasseau Collesium is an epic jam for the ages!

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 22:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Track 15 on disc 1 of Soft-Rock sounds like a GVSB parody, and that's what inspired me to revive this thread.

miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 22:51 (eighteen years ago) link

i like the soft rock stuff better than fiestas. but fiestas is choice. i too like lifter puller more than hold steady, but i like hold steady fine. i think i might even like the first hold steady more than the new one. i think i'm in the minority there. and most people like fiestas best, so i'm probably in the minority there too. that first disc of the soft rock thing is just one amazing blast after another. i never get sick of it.

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 22:55 (eighteen years ago) link

what song? it messes me up cuz everyone has the Soft Rock and I have everything seperately....

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 22:56 (eighteen years ago) link

I think I might like Almost Killed Me more than Separation Sunday too.

miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 22:57 (eighteen years ago) link

The GVSB parody is called (checking allmusic...) "The Gin And The Sour Defeat."

miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 22:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Get Fiestas, Miccio!

C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 23:14 (eighteen years ago) link

yes, get Fiestas

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 23:22 (eighteen years ago) link

haha I remember my argument w/Josh on here as being far less civilized than it actually was. points to us, I guess.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 23:29 (eighteen years ago) link

holy shit I just flipped through the thread and I'm listening to that band The Holy Ghost that Chuck refers to right now! I also burnt that from the station along with the Finnstuff and was thinking about the similarity. The HG are a too ballady but the connection is just.

miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 23:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, Lifter Puller was a great great great live band. and get Fiestas.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 23:32 (eighteen years ago) link

the first of the three reunion shows in summer '03 = the best rock show I have ever attended

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 23:34 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't feel like i've had the time that seperation sunday deserves. it's so dense. i really want to live in it for a while, but something else always comes up.

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 23:40 (eighteen years ago) link

I liked SS a lot at first but yeah, immersion was key as usual. Though Almost Killed Me didn't require it to the same degree that F+F or SS did, oddly enough. Maybe it's that whole narrative thing. (A Grand Don't Come for Free to thread.)

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 23:41 (eighteen years ago) link

I just couldn't get into the narrative much. The Catholic/druggie thing just didn't grab me.

miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 23:43 (eighteen years ago) link

plus when I sunk too deep into the story the classic rock lifts just felt really gratuitous and distracting.

miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 23:43 (eighteen years ago) link

I like SS a lot, but I got tired of it pretty quickly and I can't imagine getting bored with AKM or FF despite having listened to them a lot more.

C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 23:47 (eighteen years ago) link

I dunno if it's the narrative. I feel like the F+F story is consistently engaging and a lot more dense--I'm always noticing new things. I got sick of SS the more I pieced the story together.

C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 23:49 (eighteen years ago) link

that's fair, AM; I felt that way at first but it stopped being an issue for me, I guess. the Catholic stuff goes completely over my head most of the time, though. (obviously the Minneapolis stuff doesn't. I wish I could act like that doesn't affect my view of it/them, but it totally does.)

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 23:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Haha, I find the Minneapolis stuff really exciting and I haven't stepped foot outside of the Mpls airport. City-specific stuff always almost gets me.

C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 23:57 (eighteen years ago) link

hence my Streets-luv! never left the U.S. much less been to London

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 7 July 2005 00:11 (eighteen years ago) link

the acoustic hold steady set was a-mazing...

phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 7 July 2005 04:38 (eighteen years ago) link

four months pass...
Fiesta + Fiascos is terrific.

'Twan (miccio), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:35 (eighteen years ago) link

The funny thing is it might be making me appreciate Separation Sunday even less - need to throw it on again sometime soon.

'Twan (miccio), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:36 (eighteen years ago) link

LFTR PLLR is better than Hold Steady, no question in my mind. But both are great.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:45 (eighteen years ago) link

They're the 2 most under-appreciated bands of all time. but the Hold Steady have stepped up to a whole new universe of wasomeness beyond LFTR PLLR. Why aren't they the most popular band on the planet?

Amity Wong (noodle vague), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:56 (eighteen years ago) link

I too have visited the Minneapolis airport!

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:31 (eighteen years ago) link

it's a decent airport. nothin' fancy. my friend manages the chili's on the G gate!

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:42 (eighteen years ago) link

does kogan like lifter puller?

tom west (thomp), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 23:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Kogan wrote about Fiestas and voted for it in Pazz & Jop.

I KNEW you'd like that album, 'Twan, and I'm glad you do.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 23:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Matos,

You don't live here anymore so maybe you've got "perspective", but I just playing the B.S. old skool Mpls fanboy syndrome "oh you should have seen them back when" crap when I think LFTR is better than Hold Steady? cuz I really do.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 23:11 (eighteen years ago) link

whatever lftr pllr record matos played me during emp was absolutely great, but strangely i havent felt the urge to actually get one of the records. i have given up completely on the hold steady.

dabnis coleman's ghost (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 23:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't feel comfortable making that assessment yet, but I do prefer LP overall.

the LP record I played Jess was Fiestas + Fiascos, preceded by "To Live and Die in LBI" and "Nassau Coliseum"

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 23:18 (eighteen years ago) link

i think what i liked better about lifter puller was the more straight-up indie rock sound (one of the basslines reminded me of mogwai!) which seemed to suit finn's delivery better. whereas with the classic rock stuff i am back to "why do you hate rhythm?" etc etc.

dabnis coleman's ghost (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 23:19 (eighteen years ago) link

I might might might just prefer Half Dead & Dynamite to Fiestas + Fiascos, & "Secret Santa Cruz" is still my favourite Finn track. has anyone here heard "Bitchy Christmas"? is it FESTIVE?

etc, Tuesday, 6 December 2005 23:27 (eighteen years ago) link

i think what i liked better about lifter puller was the more straight-up indie rock sound (one of the basslines reminded me of mogwai!) which seemed to suit finn's delivery better

that's kinda it for me too! plus big influence of archers of loaf, who i love a lot too.

that said, i like finn's jive ass B.S. enough to dig hold steady. and i like thin lizzy.

etc OTM, yeah I like Half Dead the best....

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 23:27 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't hear any rhythm-hate in THS at all!

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 23:31 (eighteen years ago) link

THS's tempos are slower though - more arena, which is obviously the idea - I dig the Hold Steady plenty, but Lifter Puller had that "oh shit I have had a vision" energy

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 00:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Last summer on LBI I was at a pub with my wife and kid eating lunch and wearing my Lifter Puller t-shirt. When our waiter saw it, he just about freaked saying he was best friends with Steve's (LP's guitar player) brother. He asked me if I was from Minneapolis and how did I know about Lifter Puller (I am from New Jersey). I told him they were awesome. He said Steve worked at M&M Clam Bar down the street growing up. And he also said that the Hold Steady would rule the world. Then he said Steve made a mistake in not going to NYC with C Finn. The End.

mcd (mcd), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 03:29 (eighteen years ago) link

I wouldn't say "rhythm-hate" but I don't really get why they're referencing classic-rock in tales of skaterpunks. It's not NOW 'arena', but THEN 'arena.' The GVSB post-punk sound definitely gels better with his voice and themes, I love when its all rushing by so fast I miss lines and the a groove kicks in almost outta nowhere.

Plus I am SO not a Catholic.

'Twan (miccio), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 06:05 (eighteen years ago) link


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