The Coen Brothers' Burn After Reading

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burn after screening is more like it

s1ocki, Thursday, 11 September 2008 15:46 (fifteen years ago) link

hardly, I'd burn Barton Fink way faster. Malkovich is kinda great.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 11 September 2008 15:47 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm seeing this tomorrow. It was either this or The Women remake.

Eric H., Thursday, 11 September 2008 15:49 (fifteen years ago) link

malkovich definitely the best thing about but everything else is so meh... feels like so little effort went into writing it.

s1ocki, Thursday, 11 September 2008 15:49 (fifteen years ago) link

There are some funny lines. "Dribble?"

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 11 September 2008 15:52 (fifteen years ago) link

btw Manohla Dargis shares my opinion that they hate people, only it bothers her even more.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 12 September 2008 13:07 (fifteen years ago) link

i don't know if they hate people but pretty much all the characters in this movie are so unlikeable i guess you could draw that conclusion.

s1ocki, Friday, 12 September 2008 13:13 (fifteen years ago) link

ohh eric i really wanna see the women remake, no matter how thoroughly it butchers the original. meg ryan's hair + annette benning's face = OK

Surmounter, Friday, 12 September 2008 13:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Sur, Brad Pitt's skunk-dyed hair in this looks funnier than Meg Ryan's stretched face.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 12 September 2008 13:26 (fifteen years ago) link

i can't wait to not see this movie

Tracer Hand, Friday, 12 September 2008 14:02 (fifteen years ago) link

so i guess the "it's great as Big Lebowski" rumor was incorrect (?!)

Zeno, Friday, 12 September 2008 14:55 (fifteen years ago) link

no, it's about as amusingly mediocre.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 12 September 2008 14:56 (fifteen years ago) link

(ie, not sure if being stoned will help this time)

Dr Morbius, Friday, 12 September 2008 14:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Man, this looked complete shit in the trailer, but it being Coen bros I was hoping the trailer was misleading.

Hurting 2, Friday, 12 September 2008 15:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Trailer/promos overemphasize slapstick. I actually find a couple of the principal characters sort of pitiable, despite their idiocy. (and in support, Richard Jenkins)

Dr Morbius, Friday, 12 September 2008 15:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, I actually thought from the trailer that the Coen's might have deliberately overemphasized the slapstick as a kind of confuse-the-audience and/or deadpan-joke-about-trailers move.

Hurting 2, Friday, 12 September 2008 15:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Like one of the trailers is obviously edited so that clearly disjointed lines sound connected

Hurting 2, Friday, 12 September 2008 15:13 (fifteen years ago) link

that's SOP for trailers.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 12 September 2008 15:25 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah exactly, but it was to such an extreme that I thought it was a Coen brothers joke

Hurting 2, Friday, 12 September 2008 15:26 (fifteen years ago) link

might be, anyway

Hurting 2, Friday, 12 September 2008 15:26 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't think it'll do well at the b.o. long term, as it basically sort of sets Idiocracy in the present day, and ppl don't flock to such things.

(when they can just read the ILE presidential threads)

Dr Morbius, Friday, 12 September 2008 15:30 (fifteen years ago) link

"order before october first and receive these five dvds ABSOLUTELY FREE!"

clip of frances mcdormand: "sure, why not?"

Tracer Hand, Friday, 12 September 2008 15:49 (fifteen years ago) link

The promos for don't look encouraging at all. But I'm maintaining high hopes due to my desperate (but, so far, foolproof) belief in the McDormand Axiom: That the Coens produce a winner every time they reserve a role for Frances McDormand; or, indeed, any combination of McDormand/Turturro/Polito/Buscemi/Goodman. And if it still sucks, well, damn...I may just have to write 'em off entirely - or hope that they can miraculously get back to basics and write something involving a kidnapping that isn't a kidnapping. Assuming that the Fake Kidnapping Axiom is still in effect. (Thus far, they're 3-for-3 as far as that goes.)

Either way, even if they never produce an enjoyable film again, it'd give me some personal closure if they could write a couple of new scripts set in the 1960s and '70s, since they've touched on every other decade from the '20s thru the oughties. Just sayin'.

Myonga Vön Bontee, Friday, 12 September 2008 18:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Next film is set in Minnesota in 1967, so just got the 70's to do.

Billy Dods, Friday, 12 September 2008 18:04 (fifteen years ago) link

ohh eric i really wanna see the women remake, no matter how thoroughly it butchers the original. meg ryan's hair + annette benning's face = OK
― Surmounter

You don't even watch the actual movies, do you?

Eric H., Friday, 12 September 2008 18:59 (fifteen years ago) link

this was fun, & the score works great

TOMBOT, Sunday, 14 September 2008 18:15 (fifteen years ago) link

I am never going to be able to get the dildo rocker out of my mind, though

TOMBOT, Sunday, 14 September 2008 18:16 (fifteen years ago) link

This was OK, but happy I didn't expect anything better than a breezy throwaway.

Eric H., Sunday, 14 September 2008 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link

The trailer was a bait and switch, but I liked this a lot.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 15 September 2008 02:53 (fifteen years ago) link

i liked this.

The 69, 666, 420th Beatle (latebloomer), Monday, 15 September 2008 02:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Pitt was actually very funny.

The 69, 666, 420th Beatle (latebloomer), Monday, 15 September 2008 03:03 (fifteen years ago) link

thumbs up. it did a great job of neutralizing the horrible taste of Righteous Kill.

will, Monday, 15 September 2008 03:07 (fifteen years ago) link

This was OK, but happy I didn't expect anything better than a breezy throwaway.

A breezy throwaway that paints America as a land of moronic douchebags (otm, obv).

Pitt was funny til it reached the "look at me acting stupid" stage.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 15 September 2008 13:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Number one this weekend!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 15 September 2008 13:56 (fifteen years ago) link

is "portrays americans as stupid" really your benchmark these days?

s1ocki, Monday, 15 September 2008 14:33 (fifteen years ago) link

? I think the bleakness under the comedy belies "breezy."

Of course it's #1, it's full of movie stars. Steep dropoff coming.

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I think the best joke is Pitt getting shot in the face in his first scene w/ George.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 15 September 2008 14:42 (fifteen years ago) link

no, mark, I don't think it's all that good. The thesis is just one of its virtues.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 15 September 2008 14:43 (fifteen years ago) link

i think that got the second most laughs, after dildo chair

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will, Monday, 15 September 2008 14:46 (fifteen years ago) link

well, I didn't mean haha funny, more "George & Brad, together ag... BLAM."

Dr Morbius, Monday, 15 September 2008 15:08 (fifteen years ago) link

I have to confess I really didn't "get" the running Clooney/bolster joke.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 15 September 2008 15:10 (fifteen years ago) link

he was using it to fuck Tilda

Mr. Que, Monday, 15 September 2008 15:14 (fifteen years ago) link

or he was using it to position his body in order to get at Tilda from another angle

Mr. Que, Monday, 15 September 2008 15:14 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah the lols were of the wtf variety, but definitely lols.
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i think it was just funny that his character was carrying it around. And it was the only thing he left with after they fought. I laughed.

will, Monday, 15 September 2008 15:18 (fifteen years ago) link

oh, you hets

Dr Morbius, Monday, 15 September 2008 15:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Most laughs in my theater was the scene where the bureaucrats green-lit McDormand's long-awaited surgeries. "Pay it!"

Eric H., Monday, 15 September 2008 16:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Dogville painted America as a land of moronic douchebags, too, and made a much better case.

Eric H., Monday, 15 September 2008 16:20 (fifteen years ago) link

But unfortunately, it was made by a bigger douchebag.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 15 September 2008 16:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Most enthused smart-critic reaction:

Ooh, it's mean, ooh, it's misanthropic, oh dear, the characters are cartoonish, my my, but there's next to nothing at stake in this empty little contraption. WHO. CARES. This film is endlessly, uproariously funny, and never stops generating new dimensions of witty stupidity... So what if it has no "heart"? It never struck me as being actively mean, in the way that Todd Solondz or Neil LaBute movies or certain Alexander Payne movies are.... Aside from the endless FUCK. FUCK. FUCK.s, this is how they used to do screwball. I say this as someone who honestly never thought I would ever like another Coen Brothers film again, much less love one. I'm just flabbergasted. All hail the new Lebowski.

http://academichack.net/reviewsSeptember2008.htm#Burn

I also read Pitt's Chad as gay, ja?

Dr Morbius, Friday, 26 September 2008 19:36 (fifteen years ago) link

I enjoyed this. Especially in retrospect, having sat through Eagle Eye last night.

Simon H., Friday, 26 September 2008 19:44 (fifteen years ago) link

i figured that was for certain.

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Friday, 26 September 2008 19:44 (fifteen years ago) link

For me the problem with Intolerable Cruelty is that the film never achieved the sense of play it hoped to deliver. It was generally amusing in concept and execution, but it desperately wanted to be delightful and it failed.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 17:52 (three years ago) link

josh otm re comedy, everyone has their favs and least favs with the coens but for me all the ones that i think dont work are comedies. its a much, much smaller target to hit.

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 17:57 (three years ago) link


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