I HATE APPLE

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tbh that ad is targeted to WWDC attendees so in that regard I suppose it did crawl up the right ass to die

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 19:07 (sixteen years ago) link

Hope you like seafood.

max, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 19:09 (sixteen years ago) link

...bitch

s1ocki, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 19:11 (sixteen years ago) link

would have been better if it said "save some turkey for me".

chicago kevin, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 19:12 (sixteen years ago) link

All-night code fest?

max, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 19:13 (sixteen years ago) link

ALLEN?

max, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 19:13 (sixteen years ago) link

DO YOU LIKE SEAFOOD, ALLEN?

max, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 19:13 (sixteen years ago) link

all night crab fest

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 19:14 (sixteen years ago) link

all-night cock fest is more like it

s1ocki, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 19:14 (sixteen years ago) link

i hope you like steaming hot chowder

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 20:14 (sixteen years ago) link

"Hope you like seafood" -- lol doesn't the gay in play misty 4 me say this?

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 21:32 (sixteen years ago) link

upgrading a G4 MDD, manual says nothing about snazzy drive doors blocking the drive tray :(

DG, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 19:10 (sixteen years ago) link

I upgraded my G5's DVD and the drive door blocked the drive tray. Then I noticed the drive made it really easy to just slide off the front "lip" of the tray, and now it works fine.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 19:12 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah mine seems to be glued on. fuck an asus

DG, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 19:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Fun w/VMWare Fusion:

1. Turn on Spaces.
2. Open a VMWare (Windows, in my case) app.
3. Open another.
4. Press F8 and move the window of one app to another space. Switch to that space.
5. Click on the dock icon for the other app.
6. Woo!

libcrypt, Thursday, 1 May 2008 19:21 (sixteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

arrrrgggghhhh

i've only had this MBP for a month and the screen is cutting in and out in horizontal pieces whenever i adjust the display angle. i took it in to the genius bar and they said they'd replace the hinge and connections (and even the LCD if they needed to) but that i'd have to give this thing up for a week. worst possible timing! hopefully it will last until the end of the quarter ...

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 18 May 2008 20:24 (fifteen years ago) link

probably not the best thread -- or board -- for this one, but hey:

what the hell would stop *one single track* on an audio CD from importing, playing or copying? i tried it in two different machines (my trusty PB 12" and my equally trusty, if a bit slooow, iMac DVSE) and the same thing happens on each: iTunes will stall and hang if asked to play the file from the CD or import it, and the finder gives me an I/O error (type -36) if i try to copy the AIFF file directly from the CD to the desktop.

i blew the dust off my old LaCie burner and tried it from that. it worked! painfully slowly, right enough -- import speed dropped from about 12x to 3x -- but it managed.

what the hell is going on here, then? how can one audio track (which, incidentally, plays fine in a cheap portable non-computer CD player) cause this much hassle? (i tried opening it in quicktime, too: that crashed the finder so hard i had to manually reboot, which i've *never* seen before. even by SSH-ing in from the iMac and going on a killing spree, i couldn't get the finder to relaunch.)

grimly fiendish, Sunday, 25 May 2008 15:17 (fifteen years ago) link

You very clearly have a damaged disc. The reason it plays "ok" in a cheap portable is that the cheap portable just goes on its merry way when it is unable to read the damaged sector. You may or may not be able to hear the damage, depending on a number of factors, but it's still there.

If you care, you may be able to fix the disc if it's a scratch on the bottom: The acrylic layer is relatively thick, and you can often burnish out minor flaws.

libcrypt, Sunday, 25 May 2008 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link

i've seen exactly that behaviour before grimly. ended up downloading the album.

caek, Sunday, 25 May 2008 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link

M

kenan, Sunday, 25 May 2008 17:25 (fifteen years ago) link

I didn't mean to hit submit, but instead of elaborating, I'm just going to leave that. M. That's what I think about all this.

kenan, Sunday, 25 May 2008 17:26 (fifteen years ago) link

http://jornale.com.br/acuio/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/peter-lorre-m2.jpg

THAT'S what you think of this??

s1ocki, Sunday, 25 May 2008 17:30 (fifteen years ago) link

P

libcrypt, Sunday, 25 May 2008 17:32 (fifteen years ago) link

No, I was just going to say that My brand new AirPort Extreme went back to the store yesterday, and I think it's hellooooo NetGear. It was not meant for me, anyway. Although now that I have been through the experience of paying almost $200 for a router (!) and having it not work with any machine but an Apple, and then only in the way it wants to autoconfigure itself, and having the Apple Support line tell me on no uncertain terms that they could not do thing number one to help me configure it properly, well. Actually, that was a bad phone call. I was sweet as pie, and started explaining my issues and using big words like DCHP and DMZ and kinda scared the hell out of the poor girl, who meekly admitted that I was going way over her head. That's fine, I don't mind that, bring on the Product Specialist. This guy...wtf. He immediately began treating me like a problem customer, like I had just been cursing up a storm and he needed to calm me down. "Sir, we do not support those features. We cannot help you." Whoa, ok. Well, thanks anyway for the most expensive router ever in human history that the company doesn't provide support for. That's just glorious. :/

kenan, Sunday, 25 May 2008 17:46 (fifteen years ago) link

You very clearly have a damaged disc

yeh, you must be right -- but there's absolutely no sign of cosmetic damage at all. and the fact that every other track is fine (or is it? perhaps there is other damage i'm not hearing) suggests the damage is intrinsic rather than physical, if that makes sense. i wonder if there was a fucked-up batch? actually ... it was a limited-edition pressing anyway ("the golden hour of the future", if anyone cares), so perhaps the whole lot were badly done somehow. (i know nothing about CD mastering and pressing.)

caek: ha, yeh, i was gonna do that -- although it's not the easiest to find (only one other person sharing it on slsk, and at an utterly feeble speed).

grimly fiendish, Sunday, 25 May 2008 18:32 (fifteen years ago) link

hoa, ok. Well, thanks anyway for the most expensive router ever in human history that the company doesn't provide support for. That's just glorious

that is fucking absurd. i mean: it's a router. you should dole out the beats in an apple-ward direction.

why, if you don't mind me asking, did you go for it in the first place? other than aesthetics, i can't understand why anyone would bother with one.

grimly fiendish, Sunday, 25 May 2008 18:34 (fifteen years ago) link

why, if you don't mind me asking, did you go for it in the first place? other than aesthetics, i can't understand why anyone would bother with one.

Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others.

libcrypt, Sunday, 25 May 2008 19:39 (fifteen years ago) link

In other words, consumer-grade APs tend to suck. Apple's just sucks a little bit less than the others. If you want hardcore reliability, you fork over a month's salary to Cisco. Consumers, in general, won't pay for soundness, which is why consumer electronics sux.

libcrypt, Sunday, 25 May 2008 19:41 (fifteen years ago) link

I've yet to find a home router that isn't a heaving fucking pain in the ass in some sense, especially ones with ADSL modems built-in.

stet, Sunday, 25 May 2008 19:43 (fifteen years ago) link

I would imagine that the AE supports whatever feature Kenan wanted, but then, my hourly phone support fees are certainly prohibitive.

libcrypt, Sunday, 25 May 2008 19:44 (fifteen years ago) link

"the golden hour of the future", if anyone cares

i care!!! where did you find a copy? has it been repressed yet? why did it go out of print so quickly? will you sell it to me?

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 25 May 2008 19:48 (fifteen years ago) link

I recommend this.

libcrypt, Sunday, 25 May 2008 19:49 (fifteen years ago) link

moonship: i bought it back when it came out (i'm on the blind youth mailing list and got in quick). i ripped it at the time but "cairo" (the problem track) never came through ... it's taken me this long to get round to fixing it! listening to "music for listening to" (see revived ILM thread!) reminded me.

(of course: the fact the tracks after "cairo" all worked suggests iTunes must eventually stop hanging and carry on ... i obviously wasn't paying much attention first time round).

anyway: not selling it but will certainly give you the MP3s if you want and haven't downloaded elsewhere, plus other league rarities. email me if you want :)

grimly fiendish, Sunday, 25 May 2008 21:21 (fifteen years ago) link

my netgear wireless router was a piece of shit

akm, Sunday, 25 May 2008 21:33 (fifteen years ago) link

why, if you don't mind me asking, did you go for it in the first place?

Well, I don't know doo-doo about routers, and the old Linksys had been giving me serious trouble since I hooked up a server to it and started a little FTP free-for-all from home. (Ah, good times.) It didn't seem to like it when people did things like put lots of data through it. Aw, don't it just break your heart. So I thought, Apple, because their shit is expensive, and being cheap is what got me in that pickle in the first place, and I've never seriously regretted buying any of their products. But this particular product is not really meant for me. For one thing, I don't care about wireless range or strength -- if I'm using wireless at all, it's from 10 feet away, and I certainly don't have an N card. So I paid extra for a feature that's not useful to me (and debatably useful to anyone). Secondly, it was doing things that I am sure not sure what they were, but they were not standard. The router itself is unfriendly to non-Apple computers, which is a goddamned obnoxious thing for something as simple as a router and firewall to be. I was excited about the feature where the routher has a USB port to plug a drive into and share network-wide, but you can't configure HOW you want to share it (it's AFP or suck it), and even though I install afp and AppleTalk on Linux well enough to talk to the iMac, the AirPort was not giving up the drive. From what I understand, this would have been easy as pie if only all my machines were Apples. And then there was the FTP issues -- it was very restrictive with outgoing data, wouldn't allow connections in passive mode even though the little box that said PASV was clearly checked, wouldn't allow file access that the server did allow (no, really! I could own the file, have the permissions set at 777, and through this router for some reason, not be able to move or change the file. The weirdest thing I ever did see) and even if you did manage to get in (using active mode only) the connection was a trickle. I spent days and days trying to get all this to work. Then finally, with a friend halfway around the world and on chat and frustrated with my inability to do something so simple (and more than a little smug because he really did tell me so), I plugged the Linksys back in, told my machines they had a new local IP, opened up three or four ports, and boom, he was pulling data out of my server at 300k or some such. Took about five minutes. Which is better than days and days.

But yeah, I still need something a bit more hardy than this -- it's crapped out once, and will again. And I ain't spending $800, call me a cheap consumer all you want.;)

kenan, Sunday, 25 May 2008 21:40 (fifteen years ago) link

grimly: i realize this isn't ILM but any idea why it was such a limited pressing? you'd think that with the groundswell of interest in post-punk they'd have pressed more than like 1000 copies ... why not just keep it in print? was it the royalties for the motown songs, maybe?

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 25 May 2008 21:41 (fifteen years ago) link

i have no idea -- i thought they were going to press up more after the first run. i'll try dropping sean a line and see what he says (although i'm not sure how involved he was with the actual production).

grimly fiendish, Sunday, 25 May 2008 21:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Maybe something like this? Hell, it lists Linux as a supported OS.

kenan, Sunday, 25 May 2008 21:52 (fifteen years ago) link

I've been meaning to put my copy online to see what kind of mega-$$$$ I can get out of it.

While some labels are fine keeping CDs in print forever, others assume there's a limited market and don't want 1,000 CDs sitting in their closet.

dan selzer, Sunday, 25 May 2008 21:59 (fifteen years ago) link

i'll give you 50 mega-$$$$ for it

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 25 May 2008 22:18 (fifteen years ago) link

I'll think about it. a few months ago I made a spreadsheet of all the CDs I was planning on selling in my great purge and The Future was up on amazon for 180...I may just have to see how much I can get for it.

dan selzer, Monday, 26 May 2008 03:25 (fifteen years ago) link

e-mailed sean from blind youth/ex-rental, and he said:


There has been some talk about a reissue, but nothing definite yet. The original release was so limited because Richard (X) assumed 2,000 copies would be enough - no-one anticipated how much interest there would be! So, with copies going for silly money on eBay, maybe the reissue will happen now (possibly via iTunes, but hopefully on CD too), but that's all I know at the moment. Obviously, I'll update the website if I hear anything definite!

so there we go.

grimly fiendish, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 11:57 (fifteen years ago) link

think we should maybe stop derailing the thread n ... hang on, this is ILX. sorry, as we were.

grimly fiendish, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 11:58 (fifteen years ago) link

I has a nice new wireless keyboard so today I don't hate apple

could do with pgup/dn keys tho :(

DG, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 12:28 (fifteen years ago) link

the more i use this fucking windows box at work, the more i love apple and everything it stands for.

grimly fiendish, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 16:45 (fifteen years ago) link

so lolz at the new Apple store in Boston being three stories tall and massive and having pretty much the exact same inventory as the Apple store in the Cambridgeside Galleria

I think I am halfway towards convincing my wife I need an Apple laptop, though. Anyone had experience/difficulty networking these with Windows machines?

HI DERE, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 16:53 (fifteen years ago) link

nope apart from windows being its usual helpful self

DG, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 17:37 (fifteen years ago) link

at my parents house they have a desktop PC connected to a printer and a wireless router. i managed to get both of their powerbooks (both running panther) to be able to share files w/ each other and the PC and to use the PC's printer. there was some crap at first involving workgroups but it worked itself out.

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 17:38 (fifteen years ago) link

lolz at the new Apple store in Boston being three stories tall and massive and having pretty much the exact same inventory as the Apple store in the Cambridgeside Galleria

oh of course! They all have *exactly* the same inventory. The Apple Store does not exist to be a brick-and-mortar retail establishment, and it's a thousand miles away from being a service center -- it's there to provide different levels and acreages of floor space for glorified Best Buy employees to mill around and explain to anyone who will listen that a .Mac account will really enhance their Apple user experience.

kenan, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 18:03 (fifteen years ago) link

I used to think it was a shiny clean enticing place. Now it depresses the hell out of me. At least at Micro Center, there are options and usually someone geeky enough to know the difference between the products. The Apple store eliminates that little snag in staff training by only having one model of any Apple-compatible product at a time. Need a firewire hard drive? This is the one for you. How about an external DVD drive? We happen to offer this one fabulous model for your convenience. Etc etc.

kenan, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 18:08 (fifteen years ago) link


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