38 Special: So Caught Up In You: great or the greatest?

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>>Watered down Lynyrd Skynyrd sell out pop music it was.

Put "Caught Up In You" and "If I'd Been The One" on a mixtape, sandwich "Go Your Own Way" by Fleetwood Mac in between the two, and you'll realize that those 38 Special songs have little to do w/ Skynyrd, or southern rock in general. "Sell out" is in the ear of the behearer, but those are a couple extremely well-crafted hits.

Dan Peterson, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 16:30 (sixteen years ago) link

"Rockin' Into The Night" was a catchy Skynyrd/Hatchet powerchord anthem, and no one remembers it. They completely changed their sound after that. My theory is that they saw how well the Cars were doing, and got some bright ideas about a bold new direction.

Great. Now I'm going to have "Rockin' Into The Night" in my head all day.

mike a, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 16:42 (sixteen years ago) link

my theory is that they had sex...(not with each other, mind, but who really knows?)...and realized that songs about chicks were way more meaningful than played-out rawk slogans...

henry s, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 16:53 (sixteen years ago) link

dude like skynyrd wasn't knee deep in poon, get real

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 18:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Donnie Van Zandt, .38 Special's lead singer, is the brother of Ronnie, the deceased and sainted lead singer from Skynyrd. When .38 Special was getting started they (or the label marketing dept) pushed the Skynyrd connection pretty hard.

Anyway I can hear that their singles are well-crafted & more Top 40 by intention than Skynyrd ever was. In fact that was probably part why I disliked .38 Special so much. I was looking for & expecting to hear something more hard-edged. The overexposure didn't help either. And in the psychology of high school they became a band it was cool to hate. Thanks for the memories....

that's not my post, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 04:03 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

also

This should have been a poll

I vote "greatest"

chocolatepiekid, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 23:13 (fifteen years ago) link

ahhhh one more

chocolatepiekid, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 23:19 (fifteen years ago) link

It's good but I like "Hold on Loosely" better. But these songs meant for radio. I think if I actually owned them, they would lose their charm.

Koo Koo Butter (u s steel), Thursday, 9 April 2009 22:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Here is that Amie vs Sister Golden Hair thread.

Koo Koo Butter (u s steel), Thursday, 9 April 2009 22:42 (fifteen years ago) link

here

Koo Koo Butter (u s steel), Thursday, 9 April 2009 22:43 (fifteen years ago) link

It's good but I like "Hold on Loosely" better. But these songs meant for radio. I think if I actually owned them, they would lose their charm.

among the otmest posts ever

butt-rock miyagi (rogermexico.), Thursday, 9 April 2009 23:52 (fifteen years ago) link

I recently picked up for dirt cheap these guys' greatest hits, and it's a solidly good listen. I got it mostly for "If I'd Been The One" which hits a lot of "it's weird being eight years old and hearing 1982-era pop like this and "Hello" and "Against All Odds"" triggers for me: I can't get enough of this era for that reason, but I'm not sure that translates into greatness for anyone else.

Euler, Friday, 10 April 2009 00:27 (fifteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

this song came on the radio today and it was like the greatest thing ever

autotuna fish (Tape Store), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 05:18 (fourteen years ago) link

power pop kids should love this song

won't you be my GAPDY / come and make it rain down on NME (Curt1s Stephens), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 05:29 (fourteen years ago) link

what if i'd been the one is such a killer example of the 80s epic-rock sound done right.

so so good.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 January 2010 05:33 (fourteen years ago) link

I talk about that show I saw back then here. Aka, Ned discovers what pot smells like...

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 05:51 (fourteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

I think we all need to just slow down and take a good long look at this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg21Rkew874

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 21 December 2010 19:13 (thirteen years ago) link

I have never seen this video.
Pretty brilliant imo.

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 21 December 2010 19:37 (thirteen years ago) link

didn't know they had two drummers tbh

o tannenbaum, o judge (crüt), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 19:46 (thirteen years ago) link

I bet those two drum kits really sounded great in a tiny little bar like that.

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 21 December 2010 19:48 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm an admittedly middling guitar player, but the chord changes to this song are a. baffling to me and b. insanely great. I just had to go look up a guitar tab for it. o_O

He stayed true to what he is. Now he murders deer! (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 20:03 (thirteen years ago) link

love this song so much.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 21 December 2010 20:04 (thirteen years ago) link

38 special were racist cause a) they were southern and b) didn't incorporate disco beats into this song

― m coleman, Tuesday, October 16, 2007 5:58 AM (3 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I think I may agree with this.

Randy Moss' dog's personal chef (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Well, thank God for Exile then.

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 21 December 2010 20:22 (thirteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

greatest song ever written

I'm goin' hongrø-øøøøøøøøøøø (crüt), Saturday, 30 July 2011 05:54 (twelve years ago) link

three years pass...

by contrast "Little Sheba" is an abomination

"fun" fact: the singer on "Little Sheba", Max Carl, is currently the singer for (what passes for) Grand Funk Railroad these days

droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 16 March 2015 13:33 (nine years ago) link

No mention on this thread of their other great single, "Fantasy Girl," which imo has some of their best guitar work!

Also, not for nothing were all of those singles co-written by Survivor founder Jim Peterik. Dude had an ear for hooks.

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Monday, 16 March 2015 13:46 (nine years ago) link

yeah that's a good song. I like Don Barnes' singing a lot; it verges on keening and that gives the songs their new-wavey urgency imo (since the arrangements aren't especially new-wavey).

droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 16 March 2015 14:25 (nine years ago) link

three years pass...

I guess today was the day my subconscious decided to pay attention to the lyrics of "Rockin' Into the Night" and well.

pplains, Friday, 10 August 2018 14:17 (five years ago) link

I found a sweet Madonna
With a Bible in her hand

She's waitin', anticipatin'
For someone to save her soul

Well, I ain't no new Messiah
But I'm close enough for Rock 'n' Roll

pplains, Friday, 10 August 2018 14:17 (five years ago) link

"What's that old southern rock song about the singer claiming not to be the new Jesus?"

"Do what now?"

"Oh, wait, here it is. It's 'Rockin' Into the Night".

pplains, Friday, 10 August 2018 14:18 (five years ago) link

"close enough for rock n' roll" is great

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 10 August 2018 14:40 (five years ago) link

It's not something to publicize, but I made a Jim Peterik playlist on Spotify, just to see what would happen.

It's basically the audio equivalent of this gif, but

https://i.imgur.com/ekWTHdi.gif

I did get that Don Barnes clarity this morning.

pplains, Friday, 10 August 2018 14:45 (five years ago) link

four months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiMgWYWBJVI

there is apparently no song on earth that can survive being covered by an artist operating in this exact genre

omar little, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 17:37 (five years ago) link

Just glad it's not a ska version.

pplains, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 22:01 (five years ago) link

let's form The 38 Specials and make it happen

omar little, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 22:16 (five years ago) link

XP How did Less Than Jake not do that?

Infidels, Like Dylan In The Eighties (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 2 January 2019 22:17 (five years ago) link

let's form The 38 Specials

that's some ska & awe right there.

pplains, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 23:02 (five years ago) link

five months pass...

https://i.imgur.com/eNSXs8A.png

pplains, Saturday, 15 June 2019 01:32 (four years ago) link

four years pass...

this song is so great

mookieproof, Saturday, 17 June 2023 05:45 (ten months ago) link

tbf the only lyrics i can recall are the title and ‘little girl’ which isn’t too promising, but still

mookieproof, Saturday, 17 June 2023 05:50 (ten months ago) link

Omg I actually kind of like that We The Kings cover posted up thread. It sounds like The Rubinoos.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Saturday, 17 June 2023 13:08 (ten months ago) link

This is great too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvGbfgw_gzg

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 June 2023 13:40 (ten months ago) link

I saw them back in the early 80s, at the state fairgrounds. What I remember most clearly is that the two drummers played exactly the same parts all the way through the show.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 17 June 2023 19:17 (ten months ago) link

Mr Veg always sings his deliberate misheard lyric over the chorus

AUNT BEE IT’S TRUE
( irl =and baby it’s true)

In his head canon it’s a love song sung by Andy Griffith to Aunt Bee 😂

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 17 June 2023 19:29 (ten months ago) link

i was automatically sent TOUR DE FORCE (on LP) because i didn't return the card to columbia house in time

joke's on them, tho, because i sent it back

mookieproof, Saturday, 17 June 2023 22:31 (ten months ago) link

You were all "I want you back where you belong!"

pplains, Saturday, 17 June 2023 23:35 (ten months ago) link


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