XTC : Classic or Dud.

Ab:

The navvies that 'pound' were usually irish, and would often sing of their homeland in songs while working on the bridge. Often the songs would be about returning home to Ireland/Dublin, "over the seaaa"

So, it kinda conflates that.

Shaun Keaveny played "Are You Receiving Me?" on his 6music breakfast show yesterday morning & I've *still* got it rattling round my brain. It was a great moment to start the day with, and I've never really rated that number (or Shaun Keaveny) before.

Louis better watch out that gangsta andy partridge and tha easside swindon krew dont pop a cap in his cracka ass.

Second the love for Big Express and especially Mummer *and and* especially Ladybird

Go 2 is this strange and wondrous creation I'd not been aware of - it's a HUGE leap forwards.

Absolutely. I took a very circuitous route to XTC fandom: the first one I owned was Drums & Wires, which I liked but didn't love at the time and thus didn't pick up Black Sea. First one I loved was English Settlement, whereupon I went back and bought the rest. Was blown away by Black Sea, reappreciated Drums & Wires, and then discovered Go 2 as a "strange and wondrous creation" (which presages a lot of what happens on D&W.)

Listening chronologically they were progressing by leaps and bounds on those first five records.

hahahaha yeah every record is an amazing forward-leap into the barely-known (although I'd argue Drums & Wires, while great, is SLIGHTLY overrated in comparison to the others - it has classics like MPFN, Helicopter, Reel By Reel, Scissor Man and the almighty Complicated Game, but it also has WAY more filler than the albums around it IMO)

Always liked "Roads Girdle the Globe" a lot. Is that "Drums and Wires"?

yeah that one's good too. HAIL MOTHER MOTOR HAIL PISTON ROTOR HAIL WHEEL

it's like a slightly rickety predecessor to the plain-fucking-incredible No Language In Our Lungs

I prefer the silliness of "Roads", "Language" is slightly wanky, dare I say it

TBF haven't listened to XTC in yonks

still dumbfounded at prior post

I wish I could I could go back in time and beg them to put out Everyday Story of a Small Town as the first single instead of All You Pretty Girls, which is another one I really hate.

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man i heard that for the first time recently and played it like five times

also lj i have spent a crapload of time listening to xtc since you put that playlist on the other thread

althooooooooooough! i feel like none of the album-listening options really get into what i want to get out of xtc, except maybe skylarking, which i kind of killed by listening to it ~8,000 times in my late teens

i mean what i like about them is about them as songwriters and as studio experimenters in search of sounds which make those songs work -- whenever i listen to a whole album their sounds sort of register more as sets of textures created for the sake of an album's particular, er, aesthetic

not that that's a bad thing, obviously

have you noticed that playlist doubling in size over the past day or so? I've been busy :D

would argue English Settlement delivers whole-album joy and Nonsuch, for me at least, never drops below 'good'.

your point is interesting though - I don't THINK that on their very best work they homogenise their sound around 'variations on a theme', but it's a criticism that can be fairly aimed at, say, Oranges And Lemons or White Music

Skylarking is one of their more homogenous albums*, but it gets away with it on the strength of the songwriting

*great curveball that is Another Satellite notwithstanding

Should listen to some XTC again. (All my albums are in my mum's house)

I don't think I've heard "English Settlement" in about 20 years!

I've just remembered, I used to be able to play all the basslines on "English Settlement" (probably skipped the more difficult ones tho), same with "Black Sea", remember being able to do a mean "Rocket From a Bottle"

I like that XTC album "White Music" also.

Disturbing lack of of the astonishing Big Express on your POX Louis.

Not mentioned yet: I'd Like That, one of the romantic songs I've ever heard.

Wake Up wasn't far off inclusion, and it's in my Spotify playlist

I need to give TBE more of a listen though

The problem is that I grew up with all the albums EXCEPT for the first two, Mummer and TBE, so have really had to work to jam those ones into my consciousness

I grew up with The Beatles, so discovering XTC when I was about 18 was like revisiting blissful musical-first love.

They're easy to compare to Cardiacs I guess, but I get a completely different vibe from each band. Like Cardiacs kind of frighten me.

OTM on Complicated Game (the 'darkest" XTC song?) and English Roundabout which is totally Fragile-era Yes.

english roundabout is one of those rare songs in a non-standard time signature (5/4) that sounds completely natural and not forced

Travels In Nihilon is darker than Complicated Game but the latter is more savage

XTC are excellent Muppet music, which is why I can't listen to them for more than 25 minutes: all that hiccuping and bleating.

Black Sea is my favorite, actually.

XTC and Cardiacs aren't very similar at all - there's different things at stake, different vibes for both bands, different levels of intensity - different TYPES of intensity. The key's in the lyrics - both ingenious but in different ways that get to the core of the respective pop titans' psyches (XTC = very literate, verse-chorus, ornate, snarky - Cardiacs = scattergun, often barely-comprehensible, edge-of-mind, sublime frenzy)

Seen that promo photo of the new Swans lineup LJ? Gira a deadringer for Tim on the cover of STG.

link?

http://new.assets.thequietus.com/images/articles/4724/swans_headshots_large_1280489291_crop_550x532.jpeg

Any love here for the song Red Brick Dream? A BE era b-side, the odd way they sequenced the pre-remaster CDs (smack in the middle of the record, after 'side 1') has rendered lots of odd stuff forever as part of the official tracklisting in my brain. Sometimes a bad thing (Desert Island/Procession Towards Learning Land) and sometimes a good thing (Red Brick Dream, Blue Overall, Jump, Limelight)

Oops, neglected to mention that I was talking about B-Sides being sequenced. Brain fried from Gym.

I only found out the other day that Limelight, Chain Of Command and Life Begins At The Hop aren't meant to be on D&W :/

that's FIFTEEN YEARS OF MISUNDERSTANDING

All three of the tracks they bunged in the middle of Black Sea are great, IMO, especially Smokeless Zone which is one of Colin's best

Really? Smokeless Zone always seemed a little slight to me.

nah I love how it sounds, and how it careens to a wheezy halt

Tissue Tigers tho' right?

you've lost me

English Settlement b-side, you've never heard it?

It's a crappy rip, from a flexidisc but I can't find better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ut5xh6ZGfA

Life Begins at the Hop is on my OG 80's LP, which contained a 7" of Chain of Command and Limelight, but looking online there were a few different configurations of Drums & Wires around the world.

Smokeless Zone, Tissue Tigers and the rest of the B-sides that comprise the Beeswax LP make that a very interesting compilation imo.

XTC are one of those "wish I liked them more" bands. Love the singles/well known tracks, love some of the out there stuff (Complicated Game ftw) but everything in between leaves me almost completely cold.

Maybe repeated exposure would help but I doubt it. Listened to a few albums quite heavily some years ago, and I can still recall all the tracks from e.g. Drums and Wires, but everything between Nigel and Scissor Man totally blurs together into one big pile of meh.

there are a few highlights but it's an overrated album as I've said - Complicated Game is the behemoth standing over the rest and the album's truest legacy

tissue tigers is neat! although not as weird and wacky and generally unique as smokeless zone, which is a singularity IMO

I recently listened to all my XTC b-sides and there almost all top quality tunes chock-a-block full of odd time changes, interesting sounds and great lyrics.

yeah this will grow on me I think