CELTICS 2010

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dont wear sh@q without the fu (tremendoid), Thursday, 12 August 2010 09:31 (thirteen years ago) link

get well perkinstein! i like him

dont wear sh@q without the fu (tremendoid), Thursday, 12 August 2010 09:34 (thirteen years ago) link

will shaq playing for the Celtics in anyway hinder the chances of his jersey hanging in the rafters at Staples?

Aerosol, Thursday, 12 August 2010 14:42 (thirteen years ago) link

perkinstein, hadn't heard that one haha. shaq is on the boston celtics btw not sure if ya'll heard

am0n, Thursday, 12 August 2010 15:12 (thirteen years ago) link

man his twitter better blow up this season

am0n, Thursday, 12 August 2010 15:12 (thirteen years ago) link

http://i36.tinypic.com/28vq7nd.jpg

moullet, Thursday, 12 August 2010 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link

perkinstein, hadn't heard that one haha

im not messing with perkins. i like him

dont wear sh@q without the fu (tremendoid), Thursday, 12 August 2010 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link

i'd push the big 3 down some stairs dont get me wrong

dont wear sh@q without the fu (tremendoid), Thursday, 12 August 2010 18:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Then throw big baby down on top of'em

Aerosol, Thursday, 12 August 2010 18:31 (thirteen years ago) link

are these pre-emptively strikes against some trash-talking c's fans that haven't arrived yet or

am0n, Thursday, 12 August 2010 19:00 (thirteen years ago) link

ly

am0n, Thursday, 12 August 2010 19:00 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't get the potshots and hatred; C's fans aren't parasitical cancers like Lakers' fans.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 12 August 2010 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link

oh GOODNESS i came here as a peace offering and now im a barnacle or some shit

dont wear sh@q without the fu (tremendoid), Thursday, 12 August 2010 19:37 (thirteen years ago) link

'ez snappin' is scandalized by a little bored schtick BRA-VOE

dont wear sh@q without the fu (tremendoid), Thursday, 12 August 2010 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link

aerosol really hates you all tbf

dont wear sh@q without the fu (tremendoid), Thursday, 12 August 2010 19:40 (thirteen years ago) link

that orlando shirt is lol

am0n, Friday, 13 August 2010 01:21 (thirteen years ago) link

needs reposting

http://www.proposalmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/0724_Perkins.jpg

BRIDE OF PERKINSTEIN

am0n, Friday, 13 August 2010 01:22 (thirteen years ago) link

aw

ice cr?m, Friday, 13 August 2010 01:23 (thirteen years ago) link

shaq to solidify celtics:

BOSTON — NBA analyst David Aldridge said Wednesday that with the addition of Shaquille O'Neal, the Celtics have vastly improved their chances of leading the league in three-second lane violations for the 2010–2011 season. "Not only does Shaq's presence in the paint give his team more opportunities to turn the ball over, but the Celtics have also added an experienced big man who makes an already old team significantly older," said Aldridge, adding that O'Neal should fill a key role in terms of drastically slowing down the Celtics' offense. "Danny Ainge was looking for someone with size who can't make it down to the other end of the court, and he went out and got the best in the business." Aldridge added that while O'Neal isn't the dominant force he once was, he believes Shaq still has a thing or two to teach teams who think it's a good idea to sign him.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 14 August 2010 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link

He may not entirely solidify the C's, but he can add a lot of viscosity.

Aimless, Saturday, 14 August 2010 18:49 (thirteen years ago) link

hahahahaaha guys i just realized, shaq is really fat!

Ruffalo buffalo Ruffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Ruffalo buffalo (m bison), Saturday, 14 August 2010 22:22 (thirteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

on paper and based on my faded memories of his great prime years, boston signing shaq sounds like a very good move. then, you read stuff like this:

SamAmicoNBA Shaq on Mo: "Guys who couldn't even play were worried about shots. Why was Mo (Williams) taking 15 shots, and I'm only taking four?"

if o'neal is complaining about his shots on a 66-win team featuring lebron james, i'm not convinced he'll all of a sudden be a good team player in boston. i imagine if he could work well anywhere, it would be there, given the quality character guys leading the team, but still . . .

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 6 September 2010 13:33 (thirteen years ago) link

http://sportscracklepop.com/2010/09/07/glen-big-baby-davis-is-at-it-again/

am0n, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 14:31 (thirteen years ago) link

RIP

http://www.nba.com/media/celtics/celts_bullseye_scalabrine_800.jpg

am0n, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 13:34 (thirteen years ago) link

almost felt bad for scal w/the intensely patronizing fan appresh, almost

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 14:26 (thirteen years ago) link

he'll get over it

am0n, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 14:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Perkins, who will turn 24 next season, is too young to remember when Shaq was a productive basketball player. When asked if he has seen any tapes of Shaqs days with the Magic, Lakers, or Heat Perkins replied “no . . . I don’t own a VCR.”

lol

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 29 September 2010 11:04 (thirteen years ago) link

http://plixi.com/p/47526042

shaq's son is out of control

mayor jingleberries, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link

broken link image rip

http://plixi.com/p/47525934

mayor jingleberries, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link

There's a lot to like about KG, but I wish to god he'd woof less at his opponents and refs and let his play do more of the talking. Too dickish from my pov.

Woofing at his teammates is ok in my book, though.

Aimless, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link

lolthefaces

Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 30 September 2010 02:34 (thirteen years ago) link

it looks like he's with his kids

call all destroyer, Thursday, 30 September 2010 02:36 (thirteen years ago) link

he's obv. fitting into the system well.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 30 September 2010 02:39 (thirteen years ago) link

should of worn those masks in game 7. they'd be defending world champions today.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 5 October 2010 03:48 (thirteen years ago) link

guys...you need to watch this video

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile (dayo), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 23:26 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

jumping back in here. really enjoying the pics and videos posted.

perk's marriage looks a keeper

collardio gelatinous, Friday, 5 November 2010 03:59 (thirteen years ago) link

This just made my morning (stole it from the "Living on a Prayer" thread:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoC4yWWxFGs

EZ Snappin, Friday, 5 November 2010 14:20 (thirteen years ago) link

rivers v. thibodeau tonite!

am0n, Friday, 5 November 2010 23:25 (thirteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/nba/news/story?id=5870869

(ㅅ) (am0n), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:00 (thirteen years ago) link

wicked awesome

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

win streak fuk u all ashfjfnfc cmdmllv

old man yells at cloud computing (am0n), Thursday, 23 December 2010 04:41 (thirteen years ago) link

note to kg's mri: pls be nice

collardio gelatinous, Thursday, 30 December 2010 17:57 (thirteen years ago) link

they will prob just lie abt it if its not

ice cr?m, Thursday, 30 December 2010 18:00 (thirteen years ago) link

KG's injury not only reason for concern
By John Hollinger

Kevin Garnett's health is obviously first and foremost on the minds of Boston Celtics fans right now. It goes without saying that a long-term injury to the superstar power forward would be devastating to the Celtics' title hopes.

But a more insidious foe also may be a factor for them during the final two-thirds of the season: the law of averages. Statistically, it will be very difficult for Boston to maintain its offensive performance, even allowing for the fact that it has been short-handed on several nights.

It's an odd conclusion to reach because Boston isn't primarily an offensive team; the Celtics are only 10th in offensive efficiency. It's their top-ranked defense that's carried the mail for them in their torrid 24-6 start.

Nonetheless, the offense perhaps bears greater scrutiny as we test whether the Celtics' play can continue throughout the season's final 52 games, because in one respect Boston has been flukishly amazing.

Let's start at the top. The Celtics are one of the league's most unusual offensive teams -- they take fewer shots than nearly everyone else, and they make a higher percentage of them than everyone else. In fact, their field goal percentage of 50.2 is more than 2 percentage points higher than that of any other team this season; what's more, it's the second-best shooting percentage of the past decade.

On the flip side, while although the Celtics have lowered the obscenely high turnover rate of seasons past, their lack of second shots remains phenomenal. Despite enviable size, Boston ranks last in offensive rebound rate. The Celtics claim only 21.0 percent of their missed shots, and as a result, only the woebegone Charlotte Bobcats attempt fewer shots per possessions. (I define "shots" here to include free throw attempts.)

That's just par for the course so far; Boston was last in the NBA in shots per possession last season.

But the other part of the equation is that Boston is not only first in overall shooting percentage, as noted, but also first in true shooting percentage at 57.3, beating out even the likes of Phoenix and New York, both of which are known for their propensity to launch 3-pointers (which improve their true shooting percentage).

Delve a little deeper, and it gets more surprising. Boston doesn't get a huge bump from 3-pointers or free throws; the Celtics just are amazingly accurate inside the arc. The Celtics' 52.9 percent shooting on 2-pointers dwarfs the league average of 48.2 percent and is actually a major improvement on their league-leading performance of last season.

In 2009-10, despite what was largely seen as a disappointing regular season, Boston finished 3.1 percentage points ahead of the league average in 2-point shooting. This season's performance, at 4.7 points ahead, is an even greater outlier.

If you're wondering, that continued even without Garnett on Wednesday night: Boston hit 52.8 percent of its 2s against the Pistons -- but lost to Detroit because it couldn't miss.

(By the way, for those of you Celtics fans bewildered by Tracy McGrady's performance Wednesday night, he's been showing signs of re-emergence lately. In some games, like the one Wednesday night or a week ago against Toronto, he's been brilliant, almost like the T-Mac of old. In others, as against Charlotte, he's seemed dead-legged. Methinks the knees aren't there for him every night, but when they are, he can still bring it.)

OK, so they make a lot of 2s. What's the big deal?

It's this: Two-point field goal percentage is one of the flukiest stats in basketball. One can see huge random variances in this stat from month to month and even from year to year, and they aren't necessarily meaningful.

Applying it to Boston's case, it's easy to be suspicious of its ability to keep shooting so well. Boston's top 2-point shooter from last season, Kendrick Perkins, hasn't played a game this season, yet the Celtics have dramatically increased their advantage on the rest of the league in this category. Although Shaquille O'Neal's addition has been very helpful in this area, Perkins actually shot better on 2s than Shaq did last season. Now O'Neal has upped his percentage to career-high levels in green.

He's not the only one. Paul Pierce, Glen Davis, Nate Robinson, Kevin Garnett and Rajon Rondo all have increased their 2-point percentages from last season, which is very odd to see this early in the season. Leaguewide, shooting percentages normally gently rise as the season goes on, which means most players will be slightly below their career norms in late December. But of the Celtics' seven most frequent shooters, only Ray Allen is making 2s at a lower clip than last season.

The two most suspect marks are those of Pierce and Davis. They're second and third on the team, respectively, in 2-point attempts, and both are converting at rates that blow away their career bests. Pierce has made half his 2-point shots in a season just once, when he made 50.3 percent in 2005-06. For his career he's made 47.2 percent of his 2-point attempts. But this season, at age 33, he's at 53.2 percent.

Similarly, Davis entered the season a 45.3 percent career marksman on 2s, and he's made 48.3 percent so far this season. You can go right on down the line with the other Boston regulars, but those two are the greatest extremes.

Breaking it down on a team level, what's particularly striking is how much more often the Celtics convert at the rim. Boston is making 69.3 percent of its shots there, according to Hoopdata.com. Last season, it made only 64.4 percent.

It's not just that Boston hasn't been at 69 percent before, it's that nobody else has, either. No team has made more than 67 percent at the rim in the past five seasons. In fact, the only teams to top 65 percent are last season's, Cleveland Cavaliers and the Phoenix Suns in the four previous seasons. Those teams, obviously, had historically great finishers in LeBron James and Amare Stoudemire. The Celtics do not, which makes me suspicious of their ability to end up in the high 60s.

Maybe I'm wrong. Perhaps it's no fluke and there's a good reason the Celtics are defying the long-term trends. Nonetheless, trying to find such a reason seems to me a grasp for straws. One might argue it's the brilliant passing of Rondo, but he was on the team last season, and besides, he missed several games this season. One might say it's O'Neal, except he's missed a ton of time, too. One could argue that subtracting Rasheed Wallace helps, except he didn't shoot that many 2s last season and didn't shoot them that badly (51.1 percent). And one might say that the veteran Celtics are simply taking advantage of their experience, except that older players typically see their 2-point percentage decline.

So we're left to conclude that Boston is unlikely to keep shooting 2s so phenomenally. Which takes us to the next question: How great an impact are we talking about?

If, in its final 52 games, Boston shoots something more like 64 percent at the rim instead of 69 percent, that alone will subtract about 1.25 made shots a game, or 2.5 points. The Celtics will get back a few baskets on second shots, but since their offensive rebound rate is so poor, they'll end up with only about 0.3 points off those misses.

So we end up knocking 2.2 points a game off their offensive output. The good news is that the Celtics are still a heck of a team without those points. Right now they outscore opponents by 8.2 points per game, and dropping to 6.0 a game still would leave them as the second-best team in the East.

Where it becomes more interesting is a vis-à-vis the Miami Heat and the race for home-court advantage in the East.

Boston still leads Miami by three games in the loss column and has a good chance of owning the tiebreaker thanks to two early-season victories over the Heat. But the current playoff odds, which are based on past performance and do not factor in a potential decline in the Celtics' 2-point shooting, see the teams tying with 61 victories each. If Boston can't keep up its phenomenal short-range shooting percentage, it's going to fall short of that mark and likely would end up costing the Celtics home-court advantage.

All of that pales, of course, in comparison to the worries over Garnett's calf this morning. But the hot shooting of the C's is a subplot that warrants tracking as the season goes on. Boston is on pace to post historically great 2-point shooting results, particularly from short range, and that's been a major factor in its blistering start. But history tells us not to trust it.

ice cr?m, Thursday, 30 December 2010 18:03 (thirteen years ago) link

at the cost of $135 per dripple handoff disruption

Clay, Thursday, 11 April 2024 00:43 (one week ago) link

im not a quant but it seems like a pretty good deal

lag∞n, Thursday, 11 April 2024 00:47 (one week ago) link

Jrue: 4-year, $135M. Sounds like the Celtics will be a second apron team next year.

― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, April 10, 2024 8:31 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

according to bobby marks it saves them money next year cause jrue declined his larger player option, i think he was saying it keeps them out of the second apron but it was unclear

lag∞n, Thursday, 11 April 2024 13:06 (one week ago) link

i don’t think it gets them out on its own but gives them more of a path to getting out than before

call all destroyer, Thursday, 11 April 2024 14:05 (one week ago) link

too many aprons

lag∞n, Thursday, 11 April 2024 14:09 (one week ago) link

wiggle room

The benefit from the extension is that Boston eliminates $5.7M of likely/unlikely bonuses that would have counted toward the first/second apron.

Celtics now have wiggle room to get under the apron at the trade deadline if needed. https://t.co/n948CIifEt

— Bobby Marks (@BobbyMarks42) April 10, 2024

lag∞n, Thursday, 11 April 2024 14:32 (one week ago) link

White has two years remaining on the four-year, $70 million extension he signed with the Spurs in 2020. He’s due to earn $18.4 million this season and then $19.6 million in 2024-25. Under the new rules of the collective bargaining agreement, White can extend for three years at 140% of his 2024-25 salary, so a deal would look like something around three years, $85 million that would begin in 2025-26.

this is a year out of date but sounds like white could extend for ~$28m around the same money jrue got, which seems pretty good for him hes obvs a very good and valued player but im not sure whos maxing him out, tho he could play out the last year of his deal and get more from the celtics, or effectively force a trade to a team thats willing to give him more if the celtics arent, hope they just extend him asap that would be nice

lag∞n, Thursday, 11 April 2024 14:45 (one week ago) link

i understand the desire to not let your players get rusty, but is having your starters play this badly for 30-plus minutes a night contributing to that cause?

also good lord why are they airing these games on national tv?

fact checking cuz, Friday, 12 April 2024 01:17 (one week ago) link

last ever broadcast from mike gorman. salute

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 14 April 2024 18:25 (five days ago) link

best ever to do it

lag∞n, Sunday, 14 April 2024 18:34 (five days ago) link

pritchard 38-9-12

lag∞n, Sunday, 14 April 2024 20:45 (five days ago) link

i'll miss mike a lot, the last of the guys who knew that saying less was usually the best choice

call all destroyer, Monday, 15 April 2024 00:52 (four days ago) link

celtics finish the season with one of the highest point differentials ever

https://i.imgur.com/6KSwy1z.png

https://i.imgur.com/TRosngP.png

lag∞n, Monday, 15 April 2024 15:41 (four days ago) link

prob better expressed per game plus now we get wilt

https://i.imgur.com/QtVbLBL.png

lag∞n, Monday, 15 April 2024 15:42 (four days ago) link

other guy must be elgin baylor

lag∞n, Monday, 15 April 2024 15:43 (four days ago) link

Fascinating insight from Joe Mazzulla into his mindset on @PardonMyTake. Says he never uses revolving doors, studies the exits of every room he’s in, and uses watching cartoons with his kids as a chance to teach them lessons:

“How can I win every situation or environment?” pic.twitter.com/EmJ4rADA7J

— Noa Dalzell 🏀 (@NoaDalzellNBA) April 19, 2024

good luck to the celtics and their very normal coach tjis offs!

brony james (k3vin k.), Friday, 19 April 2024 15:28 (four hours ago) link

silicon valley brain poisoning ass bullshit

polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Friday, 19 April 2024 16:00 (three hours ago) link

its ok we know he's not normal, we made peace with it. just need him to draw up some plays that move the ball late in the 4Q and we're good

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 19 April 2024 16:25 (three hours ago) link

its tough being a weird guy dont think ive ever heard him say something about basketball that i disagree with but i see him on the sideline with his crucifix pin and im like idk about all this

lag∞n, Friday, 19 April 2024 17:15 (two hours ago) link

silicon valley brain poisoning ass bullshit

― polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Friday, April 19, 2024 12:00 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

feel like sports brain is upstream in this case—sports, sales, cop shit— its just guy stuff

lag∞n, Friday, 19 April 2024 17:16 (two hours ago) link

time 2 slam dunk the patriarchy imho

polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Friday, 19 April 2024 18:09 (one hour ago) link

i mean if this is how he wants to be “basketball coach” is a much better professional outlet than “police officer” or “IT manager”

call all destroyer, Friday, 19 April 2024 19:26 (three minutes ago) link


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