Throwing Muses: C-o-D

yea that's one of my favorite songs on the album now. after like alfred pointed out to me how good it was last year. really wonderful. it has an old-timey girl group thing about it too, great twist.

Just found this link — "Not Too Soon" was performed live on a University of Rhode Island radio show way back in 1985. I remember taping this show myself.

http://www.throwingmusic.com/jive/thread.jspa;jsessionid=ABD334DD295D68E646FE8682488F55F2?messageID=5337ᓙ

Fuck. Try again. http://www.throwingmusic.com/jive/thread.jspa;jsessionid=ABD334DD295D68E646FE8682488F55F2?messageID=5337ᓙ

Never mind.

I'm curious to know if anyone else has a certain Throwing Muses song or songs that will come into their head now and again for some unknown reason. For me the main one is "And A She-Wolf After The War". Although I'm also haunted by "Walking In The Dark", "You Cage"...and that lyric from something on House Tornado when she says "keep walking/If I did the same thing/Five hundred times/could you see it in the dark?"

I can't believe I wrote this almost a year ago to the day:

I'm not really sure the Muses are something I feel comfortable pulling out now, they seem tied up with all this teenager angst for me, not a pleasant place to revisit.

-- Bimble, Sunday, May 13, 2007 11:34 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Link

to answer your first question, tar kissers comes into my head a lot. or snake off uni.

i can't believe you said that either!

it must be some other thread where scott proposes that their debut is the best record ever made by a band whose members were all in their teens at the time. I think he's right.

Goodness, were they really all in their teens or are you shitting me?

The duet with Bob Mould on Red Heaven, "Dio", pops into my head every once in a while. Deeeeee-oooooooo.

bimble yes as far as I know they were all under 20, Hersh was 18.

I think that is right, ya.

I used to quite often get "I have to sleep/tangled in my familys hair" stuck in my head unbidden from Walking in the Dark. And "Fish" pops into my head now and then, esp if I've been counting something, as I'll start going "one plus two plus three plus four plus five plus six plus six plus six"

There is not one band on this planet that could make a record that sounds like House Tornado.

Are there any comtemporary bands that could be compared to early TM?

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bimble yes as far as I know they were all under 20, Hersh was 18.
Yeah, they were all young ’uns. I remember running into David Narcizo at a club in Newport — this was after the debut came out — and offering to buy him a drink. He reminded me that he wasn't yet of age.

anyone heard this btw : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakuna - any good?

DIZZY!

the doghouse demo that came with the US reissue of the first album is incredible. the first album was burdened with an 80s production job (wow reverb makes the drums sound so good argh) but the demo is clean as a whistle making stuff like "vicky's box" cut deeper, and as a bonus the unreleased songs from the demo are just as good - "sinkhole"!

OMG this is back up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1exb_Uk-i-M

so great ("Shimmer" live)

^^Genius awesomeness!

Been listening to Cry Baby Cry constantly over the past couple of days. I keep thinking it's my favourite of theirs until I remember all the other ones I love. There aren't many bands who were pretty much uniformly brilliant throughout their career but in so many different ways. Every song is like its own little universe.

Anyone seen the Paradoxical Undressing show? Thoughts?

Shimmer posted above is pure goosebumps.

Throwing Muses are playing in Australia in January 2009.

It's going to be GOOD year.

Tonight. Corner Hotel Hotel, Richmond.

It happens.

I'm going too! This'll be the 3rd time (I think?) ive seen them live, 4th if I count Kristin's solo gig round the time of her first solo album.

Curious as to what kind of set it will be, and I dont have the most recent album so I'm stuffed if they play all from that.

This review of the Wellington show on Monday night might give you an idea of what you're in for...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/dominionpost/4817807a26666.html

Gonna be pretty happy if Shimmer, Start, Limbo and Pearl (!!) all get an airing again...

Thats half the set they did last time I saw them, dagnabbit! hahaha :)

In fact I remember when they did Pearl - a guy next to me was hollering all the lines in the quiet bit really loudly, and his gf snapped during a quiet part "thats it, I dont know you any more" and Kristin started laughing and almost lost her place.

If they did any songs from Fat Skier I'd be well pleased.

I'm a Limbo man.

That was a pretty damn fine gig! I was stoked that they did "Finished", I don't think I've heard them do that live before.

I'm exhausted now.

Set list as much as I can remember it of (this is totally not in order, I'm too hung over, and there were 3 songs i didnt recognise which I'll assume were from the 2003 album cos I dont have that). Shit they did a lot of songs. I guess thats easy when they're all fairly short.

Finished
Shimmer
Hazing
Start
Vicky's Box
Tar Kissers
Bea
Devil's Roof
Shark
Bright Yellow Gun
Say Goodbye
Pearl
Mania (awesome encore, I love how fucked up fast and crazy they do this live)

I'm sure there was more, my head's too foggy.

They didn't do The Teller or Fish which made me sadface, and the 4 times I've seen them I don't think I've ever heard them play a note from the Fat Skier ep which is odd, because I'm sure they used to do those songs back in the day. Interesting they always do Vicky's Box now when Kristin used to say she wouldnt play it live.

She wasnt as "posessed" looking as in the past. They just seemed laid back, grown up and fierce instead. Still got a fine scream on her though :)

Thanks for the report.

to see tar kissers live

i can't even imagine

or hazing

Yeah Hazing and Start are just *ecstatic* live, I couldnt help but sing along joyously, a lot of the crowd didnt seem to know older stuff and so I was probably being That Annoying Person heh.

I also got footage of "Finished" but Im not sure if I can put it on the yootubes because I filmed half the song in portrait and then realised that would come out sideways when watching back :(

omg start. i didn't know that's what it was called. this album got me through some crazy times.

wow and SHIMMER

so much university. shimmmmmmmmer

There were many bands then and today featuring lyricists on the verge. What made Throwing Muses stand out amongst their peers was their rhythm section. David Narcizo's cymbal eschewing, marching beats, and Leslie Langston's loping, perhaps afro-pop inspired contrapuntal basslines made Hersh's struggles entertaining. To be honest, I largely lost interest after House Tornado because Langston's role was being neutered, perhaps in an effort to woo the grungy alternative audience.

I don't know if you could exactly say Leslie's role was being neutered after House Tornado, although I'd say that was their best album - if you listen to Hunkpapa, a lot of the time the basslines are carrying the songs and keeping them from being ridiculously simple and anodyne. She'd left by The Real Ramona anyway.

Really excited that they played Devil's Roof and Finished, think that's made up my mind to go to the Breeders-curated ATP to see them.

I saw Kristin Hersh with Bob Mould at the Birchmere a couple years ago. I still love her.

Search Snakeface and Bright Yellow Gun, obv. Hips and Makers is classic; though I own and have listened to Sky Motel and Sunny Border Blue they don't really grab me in the same visceral way. But nevertheless Muses = classic.

not sure yet whether i can/want to go to the Breeders ATP yet (though Throwing Muses at ATP = long overdue and should be good) so hope there will be a London date too! I want to see this...

can somebody please tell me what this breeders ATP thing is immediately

snakeface is so good.

The Breeders are curating the All Tomorrows Parties festival in England (Minehead, I think) in May, confirmed acts so far: Throwing Muses, Breeders, Bon Iver, Kimya Dawson, Teenage Fanclub, Holy Fuck.

I've never really been sold on most of the stuff off University. I don't know why but it doesn't click, I'm surprised at how much love that album gets here.

it used to not click for me, and then one day it did. a lot.

it's the snare drums and textures. it's like an ocean. and her voice.

that festival sounds fucking amazing

Absolutely motherfucking classic.

How can you deny "Bright Yellow Gun," "Flood," "Honeychain," "Not too Soon," "Cry Baby Cry," etc. etc.

"Flood" is absolutely transcendent. The mournful lyrical repetition...and the gorgeous strings! Ugh, and that piano break/bridge.