letz talk abt gucci mane

i got the other trap house albums for completist purposes, going to d/l the rest of the mixtapes soon. I now officially have way too much music to listen to in the next week.

Back to the traphouse is pretty good, but its a notch below his post-08 stuff

I reviewed it for popmatters but the review probably isn't that good tbh

It's something you can look back on and see the roots of gucci's goofy pop brilliance, but lyrically its not on the same level as the mixtape stuff that came after it

Has some classics tho -- I might be, 15 minutes, bird flu, freaky gurl etc

yea i might be is the only song i ever go back to on that tbh

Song is most notable for providing the Jackie chain hook imo

k I actually cancelled the one order and picked up Back to the Trap House and Murder was the Case (which yea I know is some new songs combined with some old ones, but figured itw asn't a bad start). gonna hafta go reload up on CD-Rs for the mixtapes.

I'm amazed at the great divide of thought on Gucci Mane. even though his albums are successful, a lot more mainstream or casual fans tend to say he sucks than someone like, T.I., per se. I don't get the criticisms. Are people really buying his albums and expecting him to drop lyrics like Tribe CAlled Quest?

i think "skreet" is of mid-atlantic origin? (shiples?)

― The Reverend, Thursday, August 12, 2010 1:31 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

never heard it round here, where accents are more about bending vowels and R's, always associate skreets with earlier slurrier T.I.

yay gucci sosa came in the mail

I'm amazed at the great divide of thought on Gucci Mane. even though his albums are successful, a lot more mainstream or casual fans tend to say he sucks than someone like, T.I., per se. I don't get the criticisms. Are people really buying his albums and expecting him to drop lyrics like Tribe CAlled Quest?

― plate of dinosaurs (San Te), Saturday, August 14, 2010 5:00 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah it's such bullshit that SO many people who give Rick Ross a free pass still hate on Gucci

some people wear hating rappers as a badge of honor. I did for many years. I guess the shame that comes with potentially loving a "wack" rapper is too much to bear for any mortal man.

well i totally wear hating Ross as a badge of honor, i'm ok with hate. i just think it's funny how some southern rappers can get past the usual stigmas with the right co-signs/label/beats and other guys stay on the shit list no matter how much better they are.

LIL WAYNE TO THREAD (tho I do really like Carter I-III but c'mon dude gets away with murder)

a recent Washington Post Chris Richards review of a Gucci latenight show --

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/clicktrack/2010/08/it_actually_happened_gucci_man.html

i'm wary of rap concerts for that reason. sometimes it comes across as karaoke.

The ATCQ reunion show I saw in 2006 was free of that, as they were all inspired. I'd prefer to see any rap concert in clubs too -- doesn't translate to arenas and stuff well at all

now that I said "karaoke" I half expect DJ Khaled to appear in this thread and start hollering

LIL WAYNE TO THREAD (tho I do really like Carter I-III but c'mon dude gets away with murder)

― plate of dinosaurs (San Te), Saturday, August 14, 2010 5:29 PM (26 minutes ago)

weird, i still associate wayne with the "hated on as a bad of honor" crowd. it took a loooong time for people to give up the "lil wayne killed hip-hop" posturing, and some still haven't

I still love Wayne for his cumulative output

back to the trap house is mostly way good -- probably being underrated here -- its def not as much fun wordplay-wise as his more recent stuff but its around that time (& the preceeding 'no pad no pencil' & chicken talk mixtapes) where he really solidified as an all-around character. compared to the mixtapes, prob not as good, but the mixdown is really high quality & there are tons of classics -- & imo 'i might be' is better than the jackie chain song

thx. I likedi t on first listen but need more time. just got the latest mixtape he dropped from ITunes, but alas out of time to play.

i mean, listen to 'i move chickens' & 'pillz' ('i might be' is an inferior version - the game, really??) & 'bird flu' & '16 fever' & 'i know why' -- all basically classics

imo 'no pad no pencil' 'chicken talk' & back to the traphouse are of a piece

the so icey boy mixtapes (vols 1 & 2) & the zone 6 to duval mixtape that came out right around then are also A+

i cant believe how many of his mixtapes ive heard lol

"i know why" is also amazing

evidence of gucci mane entering the collective subconscious

Philip Markoff was found unresponsive in his Boston, Massachusetts, jail cell at 10:17 a.m.

??

C'MON SON

ok... i have no idea of the significance of that post at all

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1017_Brick_Squad

oh. i'm sure other things have happened at 10:17 and it's not really worth pointing out

damn, way to board lawyer a totally jokey post

if ilx was rid of things not worth pointing out there would be like 4 posts a day

make funnier jokes, amirite

know something about rap music, amirite

The hooks and beats on the best bits of Back to the Traphouse ("I Move Chickens", "Bird Flu", "I Might Be", "I Know Why", "Ballers") are so great that I really don't miss the wordplay.

& there is still wordplay there, a lot of it really funny. its just not as dense or ... systematic, as his later stuff

like, its def more (as the title suggests -- no pad no pencil) off the top of the head, but still brimming w/ personality & funny lines

when

now

so far the only song I really like a lot from the Jewelry Selection leaks is "Makin Love to the Money"

i'm not getting my hopes up for it

oh "makin love to the money" is already on Mr. Zone 6 isnt it

whatever

this one actually sounds pretty good. crazy beat

http://www.dirtyglovebastard.net/?p=27757

i don't think any of those are jewelry selection leaks

what jewelry selection leaks have there been?

WHERE IS IT

haha ok i see from livemixtapes it's dropping in 2 hours 32 minutes and 24 seconds

yes i am a rap fan in 2010

loooool

pretty impressive that googling 'jewelery selection' w/out quotes brings you to a gucci tape first instead of an actual jewelery store.

gucci time is kinda annoying to me still