I HATE APPLE

Did you expand the arrow next to "sharing and permissions" or are you a mouthbreather?

I did that and it just says "you can only read"

I only breath through my mouth when severely congested.

breathe that is. fuck I cannot type anymore.

Can you sudo chmod/chown the folder, or will it not let you do that, either?

Also, how did you iTunes music folder get into a state where you can't read it? Unless you've done something genius like change your own user ID number, you almost certainly already own and have red/write permission for everything in your home directory. Check with iTunes first, and see if it's still looking for the right directory.

My point being -- ownership and permissions is some mission critical shit -- don't mess with it if you don't absolutely have to. (I have learned this the hard way, through a few particularly daring acts of stunning dumbassery, like deciding I wanted to be the owner of everything on the drive.)

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I had permission problems in iTunes when I moved my hd off my airport extreme back to a wired connection to my MacBook. Evidently the hd sharing on airport adds its own ownership, rather than just giving it to you or admin. So I ended up just doing a bunch of chmods for the directories that it took possession of (basically, whatever I'd added to iTunes wirelessly). If there's a better way, that would be great---was reluctant to just do a recursive chmod throughout my whole iTunes directory.

kenan is starting to learn the ol' axiom that it's PEBKAC 9 times out of 10.

If I don't learn it the hard way, I don't learn it at all. :(

Oh btw, thanks for the tips and scripts on the Time Machine cron -- that's immediately useful to me. At the office they're going to use TM to back up to a network drive for all the Macs, and it would be nice to set that up to only happen at midnight or some such.

Question, though -- I know that TM doesn't like smb shares especially much, and I that's what they're going to set up, if I know my Windows-lovin' IT department. I told them that it would be slow, so they're making sure the server and the machines all have gigabit ethernet. Only I'm not sure that's really the problem. I mean... is it? (I guess we'll see.) My idea is to give all the machines a static network IP and set up an NFS share on each volume that only exports to the one computer that needs access to it. Right?

kenan is starting to learn the ol' axiom that it's PEBKAC 9 times out of 10.

which actually means PEBEAU (problem exists between engineers and users)

computing is easily the most immature industry in the world right after hydrogen-powered cars

anyway I can't decide whether I hate Apple or not today, my iMac died (PSU kaput) on Saturday and the Pentagon City store staff were (again) way more helpful than I expected, plus the speed bump and price drops mean that I got a better machine to replace it for less money than I had paid for my 2005 iLemon (shipped to me with bad mobo, which appears to have shortened the lifespan of every other major component in the system, no point throwing any more good money after bad especially since I'm probably lucky the HD even still works)

really it's my dumb ass fault for not purchasing AppleCare while the thing was still under warranty, or asking for a fresh-box replacement as soon as they figured out the og mobo was faulty

bonus: got free HD data transfer even though the Geniuses are going to have to extract the drive from the case to fire it up in a separate housing + they're going to get my cristian vogel CD out of the optical drive that stopped ejecting months ago + govt employee discount on everything

weird, my post earlier didn't go through. this directory is on an external HD which was used with a windows xp machine until now (NTSF formatted); ownership is the same as the standard 'music' folder on the mac machine, it appears (owned by me); but maybe if itunes itself is copying the files, the system needs to own it? or they need to be in the same group? I think the group here is wheel, I dunno, I'm actually at work now. I'll fuck with it tonight, probably have to recursively run chmod/chown until it works. I kind of hate permissions shit, it's something that I seem to not understand incredibly well even when I think I do.

Sounds like akm's problem is PEBAirPortExpressAU, which is one of the reasons that I gave an AE a good two-week fighting chance to impress me, and then... no more. The fabulous USB port for network sharing should come with several asterisks.

not using airport express, this is just a usb drive.

which actually means PEBEAU (problem exists between engineers and users)

That's not quite what I meant by PEBKAC. When folks use computers according to SOPs, employ common sense, and research or ask for help when necessary, there's never a PEBKAC to be found. What I'm talking about is when folks get a little to "ambitious" with their computers w/o knowing how to reverse whatever the hell optimization they're trying. E.g., when someone's mail notes stopped working (moonship?), the problem turned out to be user optimization: the note font had been removed or deactivated! That's classical PEBKAC, and no matter how mature the industry becomes, it'll still happen.

Tom I got a new computer this weekend too. But who has the biggest wang

xpost: http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/power.users.html

asking for a fresh-box replacement as soon as they figured out the og mobo was faulty

will they do that? i don't think that's in the warranty terms.

ha ha yeah that was me. no "marker felt", no mail notes!

my problem was just not connecting the two things in my head. i deactivated the font, several days later i realized the notes weren't working. i never would have thought that not having the font would break the program - i figured it would just do notes in geneva or whatever. and i'd been doing a bunch of other stuff w/ mail in the meantime (trying to get imap to work right).

i guess that's an argument for scrupulously documenting everything you do to your computer.

I watched them do that for a lady who came in after me with her macbook pro which was acting up, actually. Dude took a look at it, listened to her issues (I wasn't there for the whole thing, just saw him pop the battery out and put it back in) then left and came back with a brand new one in the box and asked her if she needed data transfer.

xpost Man, if my notes in college had been 1/3 as detailed as the computer/network notes I have in this special spiral notebook...

i guess that's an argument for scrupulously documenting everything you do to your computer.

i would say it's an argument for verbose and clearly worded warning messages when a non-root account attempts to do something that will break a dependency, but my undergrad was in liberal arts.

will they do that? i don't think that's in the warranty terms.

if I ever have a similar experience I'm going to request that they do that, since I have now learned that nothing that was ever plugged into a bad board can really be trusted afterwards. I've no way of knowing how much collateral damage was done by it beyond the fried SODIMMs that they also replaced under warranty, but the techie agreed with me that it's likely that the entire thing was a ticking bomb.

actual quote from "Genius" to salesgirl: "This is Tom. His iMac has failed him miserably, and he needs a new one."

my problem hardly warrants a new computer. it's just a cable replacement, to keep the screen from flickering when i move it. i just can't give this fucking thing up for a week right now.

I had that same issue way back in the day when "powerbooks" were charcoal gray and touchpads were novel. It was tolerable (only when moving) for about three or four days and then POP black was red and POP again everything went white.

I just bought the AppleCare extension on the last possible day I could. Is it just me, or does it cost even more than it used to? Damn expensive.

I'm downgrading my current laptop (early 2008 white Macbook) to a PB G4 12"
ACK THPPPT

I have a PB G4 that I should have sold a year ago sitting around as a machine to do torrents and mild file serving at home... really should look into selling that thing

still good value! my screen is water/beer damaged

Yeah, know anyone interested in a 15" 1.5GHz G4? Well cared for, Applecare just expired on it

yeah, i'm in the same boat. 12" 1.5 ghz g4. it just feels ridiculous when i pick it up again.

I had that same issue way back in the day when "powerbooks" were charcoal gray and touchpads were novel. It was tolerable (only when moving) for about three or four days and then POP black was red and POP again everything went white.

-- El Tomboto

did it ever get fixed?

i have a 12" too that my friend ahs been borrowing for a while

It's kind of a weird feeling because my macbook pro looks almost physically identical but it's just so much better

moonship: yes, I got it fixed, but it had to be mailed to texas and back for the cable replacement. This was before the days of Apple Stores in malls, but I'm pretty sure there's still no such thing as on-site laptop repair. I'm basically relating that to tell you that you're either going to lose it for a week on your own terms or it the cable will just decide for you.

This was before the days of Apple Stores in malls, but I'm pretty sure there's still no such thing as on-site laptop repair.

It depends on what the repair is. They do at least some repairs at the local Apple Store here, since they replaced my hard drive when it went dead a year and a half ago. They had to wait two days for the part to get shipped in, though.

Oh, additionally, the guy who did the repair came from the back and he was the Apple version of the traditional PC hardware dork guy! Long hair, oversized black Apple shirt and unfashionable jeans, very interested in saying he replaced my hard drive and proud that he cleaned up the screen, too. I was impressed and kind of nostalgic about when I was that sort of guy.

Buy Applecare online - I dunno where people on Ebay get the Applecare packages, but it's less than half of retail and they've registered fine every time for me.

are applecare packages transferable?

they're tied to a specific product

but not a specific instance of a product until you register

Between peeps, yes.

Yeah, know anyone interested in a 15" 1.5GHz G4? Well cared for, Applecare just expired on it

I might be. I'm looking into getting a laptop before I go to CA in August.

well it took two hours in the store and on the phone but apparently apple is going to ship me a new MBP with fedex labels to ship the old one back. they took my CC # as insurance and i guess i'm going to have to sign some sort of agreement too.

hmm i forgot to ask whether i am going to be able to transfer the apple care or not.

also they weren't clear whether they'd be sending an '07 or an '08