I was too nice to the Postal Service though.
― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 07:12 (twenty years ago) link
― Fabrice (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 07:16 (twenty years ago) link
― Sean (Sean), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 07:22 (twenty years ago) link
Ol' Dirty Bastard and lots of other rap and RnB stars to thread.
Also, Geir needs to be here.
― Nick H, Tuesday, 7 October 2003 07:58 (twenty years ago) link
― Fabrice (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 08:01 (twenty years ago) link
Other than that, I still think his first three solo albums have gotten a bit too much criticism. Sure, they aren't quite in the league of Peter Gabriel's solo work (much less in the league of Genesis at their best), but there are lots of great tracks there too. From "But Seriously" onward it was downhill though, and "Dance Into The Light" is probably one of the worst albums ever.
Also, Phil Collins is a magnificent drummer. Maybe his best moment as a drummer is "Intruder" - the opening track on Peter Gabriel's third album.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 08:13 (twenty years ago) link
'Mama''s quite a good song.
He was a big fan of The Action as a youth.
No, that's it. I've run out of good words to say for him.
― Martin Horsfield, Tuesday, 7 October 2003 08:35 (twenty years ago) link
― Fabrice (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 08:58 (twenty years ago) link
― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 11:54 (twenty years ago) link
― Baaderist (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 12:21 (twenty years ago) link
― mick hall (mick hall), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 12:23 (twenty years ago) link
I like "Against All Odds", no matter how schmaltzy it may be, although it may be because I had a thing for Rachel Ward when I was a teenager.
― earlnash, Tuesday, 7 October 2003 13:23 (twenty years ago) link
He is a decent actor, and probably one of the top hundred-thousand drummers in the world.
― Salmon Pink (Salmon Pink), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 13:33 (twenty years ago) link
― Baaderist (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 14:11 (twenty years ago) link
I think that the fact the song has actually spawned an urban legend speaks to how powerful it is....
― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 14:40 (twenty years ago) link
Don't know much else about his music and frankly don't care.
Sure, he's a good drummer, but I recall hating him for his skin-work on the re-made version of Howard Jones' 'No One Is To Blame' - the original was far better.
He is indeed pretty funny in interviews. Very self-affacting. I think he'd be an OK guy to have a pint with. Although the conversation with Peter Gabriel would be far more interesting. Sting can blow himself. (sorry - did an interview with Sting recently and I'm struggling BADLY to finish the article)
― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 14:45 (twenty years ago) link
― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 15:03 (twenty years ago) link
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 15:30 (twenty years ago) link
http://www.snopes.com/music/songs/someair.htm
― Salmon Pink (Salmon Pink), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 17:04 (twenty years ago) link
Fritz, I didn't know he was in a Bone Thugs video?? Which one??
Also, imagine the possibilities that appearance brings up in a game of "Six Degrees of Phil Collins"....it probably means you could connect say, Mase and Marianne Faithful in less than 4 degrees....like Bone Thugs worked with collins, they worked with Biggie on Notorious Thugs, Biggie worked with Mase, then Phil subbed for drums with Zeppelin at Live Aid (I think) and probably John Paul Jones did some arranging for Marianne I bet back in the mid-60s....(I'm not sure about all these facts, just speculating, but the possibilites like this are endless.)...
― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 19:37 (twenty years ago) link
― theodore fogelsanger, Tuesday, 7 October 2003 19:44 (twenty years ago) link
Isn't this what we praise Joy Division for?
― Mike Taylor (mjt), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 00:05 (twenty years ago) link
― calstars (calstars), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 01:14 (twenty years ago) link
― calstars (calstars), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 01:16 (twenty years ago) link
― Dave M. (rotten03), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 01:18 (twenty years ago) link
― Dave M. (rotten03), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 01:22 (twenty years ago) link
― Adrian (Adrian Langston), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 06:23 (twenty years ago) link
― Adrian (Adrian Langston), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 06:24 (twenty years ago) link
― Baaderist (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 06:25 (twenty years ago) link
― Nick H, Wednesday, 8 October 2003 08:05 (twenty years ago) link
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 10:29 (twenty years ago) link
This may not have been you, but I once head John say in an interview that Phil Collins had stolen the PiL drum sound! Apparently, after hearing the drum sound on 'Flowers' Collins requested the same engineer that PiL used and set up the drums exactly the same! Is this true? Was it you!
Yes, this is true, and it was me. John is correct but there is a bit more to it. I learnt how to get that "kind" of drum sound by watching Hugh Padgham record in the same Stone Room at the Townhouse. Hugh recorded Peter Gabriel's 3rd album and if you listen to a song called 'Intruder' you will hear what I'm talking about. When It came to doing the PiL album I used similar methods to achieve a similar sound. During the making of the 'Flowers of Romance' I bumped into Phil Collins in the corridor of the Townhouse, I had worked as an assistant on his first LP, and he was very inquisitive about how I was surviving working with the evil Johnny Rotten! I told him John was a top class geeza, and promised to introduce them if he was keen.
Later that day me and John went to the Townhouse canteen to eat boiled cabbage and mash, and in walked Phil so I introduced them. Much to all our surprise they got on like a house on fire! Anyway back to the drum story... Much later Phil was producing a Chris Bailey (of Earth Wind and Fire) album, and he wanted THAT drum sound, but Hugh was off working with the Police. Phil had by then heard snippets of the PiL album. So, the day we were in mastering the 'Flowers' single remix at the Townhouse cutting rooms next door, I got a call from Phil saying HELP! So I went in for an hour or so and dialed it up!
― rw, Wednesday, 8 October 2003 13:34 (twenty years ago) link
Pardon granted for: Squonk
― dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 13:44 (twenty years ago) link
There is lots of Phil Collins-associated music that I like, and lots that I loathe. I generally find him to be unbelievably smarmy, though, so it's hard to like even the good stuff.
― southern lights (southern lights), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 14:01 (twenty years ago) link
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 14:08 (twenty years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 14:23 (twenty years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 9 October 2003 08:43 (twenty years ago) link
(this, btw, would also fit into the ILE "funniest things said while having sex" thread)
"No really, Gail, he was there and John Martyn was on guitar, and he talked him into playing and John Stevens said halfway through one improv piece "Right you lot, Phil and I are gonna have a little chat on the drums now so the rest of you cunts can just shaddup, alright?"
"Yes, that sounds like good old John," sighed G. Four-second pause. "Dirty old man that he was..."
(according to G, every Brit improv legend is or was a "dirty old man" heheh).
Anyway, as a drummer the boy Collins dun good on the John Cale Island trilogy and also on Bob Fripp's Exposure. The latter, come to think of it, is not currently available on CD either except as an expensive and not recommended import.
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 9 October 2003 09:19 (twenty years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 9 October 2003 09:29 (twenty years ago) link
― southern lights (southern lights), Thursday, 9 October 2003 14:02 (twenty years ago) link
― Al (sitcom), Thursday, 9 October 2003 14:17 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 9 October 2003 14:26 (twenty years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Sunday, 12 October 2003 13:57 (twenty years ago) link
― Joe (Joe), Sunday, 12 October 2003 14:04 (twenty years ago) link
― robin (robin), Sunday, 12 October 2003 21:15 (twenty years ago) link
― damian_nz (damian_nz), Sunday, 12 October 2003 22:18 (twenty years ago) link
― damian_nz (damian_nz), Sunday, 12 October 2003 22:19 (twenty years ago) link
Has no one noted what a brilliant 'video actor' Phil Collins is? Not every artist puts their *all* into their visual performance (nevermind exact proper lip-synching) as Phil Collins does. Like, in the video for 'Mama', he literally looks like he's going mad with rage, hatred and desire, and you really believe it, you can't take your eyes off him... It is hard to believe this is the same guy who's being all cheery and silly in some of his other videos. That's what I love about Phil Collins, he is so multifaceted, as well as multi-talented. I don't claim to love *all* his songs (some of them I downright can't stand) but I don't turn my nose up at him as a musical artist. It takes talent to write a good pop tune, and that Phil Collins has written so many well-loved hits is testament to his song-writing skill, on top of being a brilliant drummer, a very decent keyboardist, and emotive vocalist. Now that I think about it, Phil Collins was the first pop artist I ever got into as a teenager. Ah, memories! :)
― Joi Raida, Monday, 13 October 2003 02:24 (twenty years ago) link
Haha that was me, babbling about "Domino"!
So what about that New Toyota Ad with Phil Collins?
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 13 October 2003 13:35 (twenty years ago) link
ahem
Nursing Home by the Sea― is it milli vanilli or just a facsimile (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, January 23, 2023 2:33 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglinkOld Man On The Corner― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, January 23, 2023 2:53 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglinkGrandmama― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, January 23, 2023 2:57 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglinkNursing Home By The Sea― PaulTMA, Monday, January 23, 2023 3:01 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― is it milli vanilli or just a facsimile (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, January 23, 2023 2:33 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
Old Man On The Corner
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, January 23, 2023 2:53 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
Grandmama
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, January 23, 2023 2:57 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
Nursing Home By The Sea
― PaulTMA, Monday, January 23, 2023 3:01 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― is it milli vanilli or just a facsimile (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 23 January 2023 21:04 (one year ago) link
Second Nursing Home By The Sea
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 23 January 2023 21:07 (one year ago) link
Reverse Mortgaging England by the Pound
― frogbs, Monday, 23 January 2023 21:07 (one year ago) link
oh damn lmao xp
― frogbs, Monday, 23 January 2023 21:08 (one year ago) link
Blames Everything On Illegal Aliens
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 23 January 2023 21:08 (one year ago) link
lol
― PaulTMA, Monday, 23 January 2023 21:29 (one year ago) link
Billy, Don't Lose Dignitas' Number
― MaresNest, Monday, 23 January 2023 21:29 (one year ago) link
Jesus, I Knew Him
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 23 January 2023 21:31 (one year ago) link
Duke's Retirement
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Monday, 23 January 2023 21:59 (one year ago) link
Man of Old Times
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Monday, 23 January 2023 22:01 (one year ago) link
You Can't Hurry
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 23 January 2023 22:04 (one year ago) link
A Gravely Kind Of Laugh
― nashwan, Monday, 23 January 2023 22:04 (one year ago) link
Dawdle into the Light
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Monday, 23 January 2023 22:15 (one year ago) link
hee hee
― calstars, Monday, 23 January 2023 22:56 (one year ago) link
Turn It (My Pacemaker) On Again
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 23 January 2023 23:02 (one year ago) link
Second Nursing Home By The Sea― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain)
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain)
― enochroot, Monday, 23 January 2023 23:18 (one year ago) link
You're No Son of Mine (Dementia Remix)
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 17:24 (one year ago) link
He seems to have that visible gut, yeah
― is it milli vanilli or just a facsimile (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 17:25 (one year ago) link
Something Happened on the Way to the Buffet
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 17:31 (one year ago) link
The “dance into the light” cover eradicated my ability to enjoy his earlier work
― calstars, Saturday, 3 February 2024 18:53 (three months ago) link
First, he's not dead. Second, this rules:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgnZD4mMRDY
(ruling starts around 1:18)
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 20:09 (two months ago) link
It does.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 20:35 (two months ago) link
That whole album... Esp Firth Of Fifth.
― impostor syndrome to the (expletive) max (stevie), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 21:46 (two months ago) link
Original mix is back in-print thanks to Analogue Productions. Kind of pricey though
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 22:00 (two months ago) link
Thought for second there was like a trending TikTok cover version of longtime CVS Jam "Dance Into The Light"...
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 22:20 (two months ago) link
I keep reading this thread title as "Defund Phil Collins"
― frogbs, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 22:21 (two months ago) link
ABACAB
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 22:55 (two months ago) link
Defun Phil Collins
― calstars, Wednesday, 14 February 2024 00:44 (two months ago) link
Prog Phil is just too much for me to process, can’t enjoy it
― calstars, Wednesday, 14 February 2024 00:46 (two months ago) link
Hello, I Must Be Gnoming
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 14 February 2024 00:56 (two months ago) link
In sum, it doesn't appear that Phil Collins needs much defending.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 14 February 2024 01:07 (two months ago) link
He's no stranger to you and me
EPIC TOM FILL
― Sane clown posse (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 14 February 2024 11:40 (two months ago) link