Christopher Priest: C/D

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What the hell? That whole thing reads like neither Hudlin nor Quesada have read the Priest run! They're describing Priest's book almost exactly, but making it sound like it hasn't been done before!

AAAUUUGH

"I'm taking Batman back to his roots of being gritty and sending him back to Gotham!"

This is frustrating because obviously I liked Priest's take and it's the one I want to see more of, even if it's not Priest I see it from, but I hate that they're spinning his spin without giving him props.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 18 November 2004 01:12 (nineteen years ago) link

THANK YOU TEP! I'm glad you're seeing that, too - it's especially galling of Quesada to not mention Priest, as HE WAS THE CO-EDITOR when Black Panther began (as part of Marvel Knights).

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 18 November 2004 02:40 (nineteen years ago) link

I have personally talked to (well, emailed with) Quesada about how good Priest was on BP! I mean, yes, there's as much chance that he was doing the "I'm the EIC, I talk everything up" thing then as that he's doing the "I'm spinning this new project to sound as good as possible" thing now, but Jesus. BP had to have been Priest's most acclaimed work, has he really taken so many hits that they're confident a verbal slap won't affect Marvel's working relationship with him?

It's not like they have to ignore Priest to talk up the new guy, so it just seems ... needless, and an easy way to alienate the existing Black Panther fans. You could easily appeal to new ones while still trying to keep the old ones. Maybe Priest is right, maybe editors really are afraid of a Christopher Priest curse, and they're afraid of risking it by mentioning him in connection with a project that isn't his.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 18 November 2004 03:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Auuuuuugh

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 18 November 2004 03:27 (nineteen years ago) link

If the Powers That Be actually gave a Priest project some support, then maybe there WOULDN'T BE a curse! (cf. the Red Sox "curse" being a simple matter of poor management that's FINALLY been remedied)

I read a version of the press release (possibly from the New York Times article that mentioned this) that talked about this being some sort of "hip-hop" crossover type thing. The thing is, that's what Priest was trying to do with The Crew! He even approached Marvel w/ a proposal to do some cross-pollenation marketing (through Vibe or The Source; I forget the details; they're available at his website) w/ a soundtrack & everything, & Marvel shot it down! AND THIS WAS LAST YEAR! What the hell has changed in the past 12-16 months that Marvel's coming around to the idea of FINALLY pitching shit to markets OUTSIDE of the 15-35 white male demographic while simultaneously making it sound that this is like some bolt out of the blue?

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 18 November 2004 03:48 (nineteen years ago) link

The fact that this guy's a comics outsider, that's my guess. Marvel management has a hard-on for that, and admittedly, maybe it's an earned one.

Black Panther was reasonably well-supported at times, considering the B-list nature of the lead character, but a perfect example of a book that should have been hyped more for its approach than for its star -- you don't need to get people to like T'Challa, you just need to point out that they like the West Wing and this is kind of like "what if we replaced Martin Sheen with Batman." I mean, I don't think I EVER heard the West Wing comparison, or anything comparable, from Marvel itself, even though it was the first one fans used.

But Captain America and the Falcon, for instance, I didn't even know about until what, issue four or five or something, and only because you mentioned it! She-Hulk going virtually unnoticed is one thing, but Cap is not exactly a low-profile character.

They know Priest consistently gets critical acclaim, what on Earth stops them from putting him on one of the books that conventional wisdom says sells itself (Batman, Superman, Spidey)?

Auuuugh.

One of these days he's just going to give up on comics.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 18 November 2004 11:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Classic: Xero. Dud: Deadpool. The BP pitch upthread sounds is to Priest's run what the current Gambit is to Fabian's.

B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Thursday, 18 November 2004 13:14 (nineteen years ago) link

I liked his Deadpool! But I won't defend it as strongly as BP; it was an inconsistent run with brilliant moments.

On Priest's blog, re: the new Black Panther, the man sez:

Meanwhile, about (House Party, Boomerang, Great White Hype and Serving Sarah film director) Reggie Hudlin on BP: I'm totally jazzed about it! Reggie is an old friend I met through Denys Cowan more than a decade ago. We've lost touch due to my hermit's tendencies, but I still court him a personal (i.e. I have his home phone number) friend. I've known, for years, that Reggie's wanted to write comics, so this is great news for Reggie and great news for Panther.

Will this be great news for Marvel? Maybe. With JR Jr. on the book, that ought to guarantee a certain amount of look-see. And, yes, I will, for now, avoid the obvious observation that, had Marvel ever put a fan-fave "name" artist on BP while I was writing it, the book would probably still be going.

At any rate, I'm thrilled and will now be forced to actually return Reggie's phone calls.

My take: I was already going to check the book out, but if this guy is actually friends with Priest, he gets more benefit of the doubt (i.e. it doesn't have to win me over with the first two issues). Not that friends always write the same or anything, not at all, but you figure he's more likely to respect Priest's run -- even if he has a different direction he wants to go in, it will hopefully grow out of the old.

Tep (ktepi), Saturday, 20 November 2004 03:42 (nineteen years ago) link

What if Priest says he's also tight with Liefeld?

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Saturday, 20 November 2004 15:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh Lord, don't make me try to imagine a Liefeld Black Panther.

Tep (ktepi), Saturday, 20 November 2004 16:57 (nineteen years ago) link

...with the mask pulled up so he can make the aarrgh mouth every panel....

I Am Curious (George) (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 20 November 2004 19:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Okay, the issue I've read of Captain America and the Falcon is really great (especially when read alongside the latest Captain America, which while not terrible is the second Marvel comic I have read today to devote a large chunk of the issue to "a third party explains to the protagonist everything that has happened"). Is the deal that Sam has reverted back to being Snap Wilson, and Cap doesn't realize it?

JJJ is handled so subtly and well in this issue that I don't know if I can explain why I like it so much -- he's in like three or four panels, but he comes across so perfectly.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 25 November 2004 02:03 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Black Panther #1 (full issue preview).

So far, seems fine, but it's such a first issue that it's hard to tell. (My one complaint: the bigwigs in the room don't seem to be aware of the Huge Earth-Shattering Events Wakanda was involved with in the last series, or of Ross's role in them.)

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 14:42 (nineteen years ago) link

two months pass...
Quantum & Woody return?

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 14 April 2005 00:34 (nineteen years ago) link

nine months pass...
But…the classic Priest story for me is one that I didn't even realise was written by him until years later. It's an Amazing Spider-Man annual, which was serialised in the back-up pages of Transformers UK. Iron Man of 2020 comes back in time to get the DNA from a kid who grows up to be a terrorist. Priest nails Spidey completely, and that final panel stil sends shivers down my spine…

came to this thread after reading owsley/priest's website, but yes, i loved this story. one of my absolute favourites...

i am not a nugget (stevie), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 09:58 (eighteen years ago) link

ten years pass...

Yay to Priest returning to comics, boo to Priest writing Deathstroke for today's DC.

Lyle Lovitz (Old Lunch), Friday, 5 August 2016 16:47 (seven years ago) link


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