Killing Joke - Classic Or Dud, Search And Destroy

note: i agree that Big Black owe A LOT to KJ.

These bands weren't predecessors of Killing Joke, they were peers.

i find it extremly hard to beleave that Jaz Dosen't even Like New Order, what about their synth rock/pop tracks? they weren't the first.

Whoever said the Joke don't like New Order? Jaz has gone on record a few times saying Joy Division were one of the few of their fellow bands he actually liked and respected. Moreover, Peter Hook actually filled in on bass detail for Killing Joke for a very brief spell.

shur they were inspirational!

Awfully big of you.

... but i don't see them as the most inspirational Post Punk band.

Who said they were? My point, however, is that they don't get the recognition they rightfully deserve.

There were lots of Post punk bands that were far more inspirational for the "heavy sound" today than KJ, doesn't anyone see that?

Post-Punk in itself wasn't exactly a wellspring of 'heavy,' though. The Joke paired the fresher, spartan approach of what was turning into "post-punk" and paired it with a heavier sound that owed more to the more conventional Punk Rock and Metal before it. I defy you to name a post-punk band who were heavier than Killing Joke. Gang of Four? No. Joy Division? Not quite. Public Image Ltd.? No.

"I defy you to name a post-punk band who were heavier than Killing Joke"
i woun't argue with you on who's heavier, but just trieng to slagg of someone with a different opinion then you is revoulting.

hahaha yeah, sorry for getting carried away there.

And I'd still disagree with you about the Birthday Party being "heavier" (which is in absolutely no way to disparage the Birthday Party). I'm merely speaking of these two bands' respective sounds. The Birthday Party's rather brooding demeanor may rival Killing Joke's, but their literal sonic output doesn't match the sheer weight and brute force of the Joke's.

http://www.an-irrational-domain.net/images/geordie/geordie16.JPG

In any event, here's a shot of Jaz with the Foo Fighters onstage recently in Auckland. HE LIVES!

http://www.foofighters.com/blackbox/pictures/2003_01_16_auckland/images/FF_2003_AUCKLAND_GALATOS0066.jpg

Ah, yes, Dave "Put Me In Your Band Please!!!" Grohl. What the hell? Does he go thru cash MC Hammer-style or something?

What is there to like about New Order? Apart from their name, obviously.

Personally, I fuckin' love New Order, but y'know....whatever.

The wife's favorite song of theirs, actually.

'My Love of this Land' was a great single.

http://www.killingjoke.com/

http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk/

So that'll be my special limited edition original 1980 cassette version devalued by about 99% then!

ME BIG HAPPY!

Forgot to say thanks for this. I've now read I think every article they've got on both of those.
It's certainly put a new spin on the music for me.

Great to see how their behaviour in interviews has evolved over the years and how they, Jaz in particular, have changed.

Looks like there'll be a new album sort of soon too, which I'm equally aprehensive and excited about.

Regarding the new album, The Death & Resurrection Show, word `round the campfire is that Dave Grohl has completed recording the drums tracks for the new album, and they're currently being mixed by a gent named Clive Goddard.

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Alex, it says that Fugazi have covered KJ, do you know what/when/where?

But this thread made me greatly miss my Killing Joke T-shirt, which I wore until there was nothing left of it to wear. That was like the best damn T-shirt I ever had, the Daisy Buchanan of my T-shirts.

Yeah, I saw that too. I think it's a mistake. The bands I'm aware of who have attempted to cover the Joke (usually with shite results) are: Metallica ("The Wait"), Foo Fighters ("Requiem"), Icehouse ("Love Like Blood"), Helmet ("Complications"), Godflesh ("Requiem"), Amen ("Europe"), the Mad Capsule Markets ("Wardance"), Love like Blood (lamentable Goth band take who not only butchered the song, but sullied its good name by adopting it as their moniker). I've heard rumours that Sarah McLachlan covered "Love Like Blood" live, but I've never heard it.

On a different point, I wonder what ol' Courtney Love has to say now that Grohl has gone public about working with the Joke.

I've got a cover of 'Primitive' done by Helmet, but not 'Complications'.

I know Grohl doesn't like Love or maybe vice-versa.

Personally I think KJ should cover Heart Shaped Box, which is supposedly about Courtney, but change the lyrics and claim it's their own.
Then send her a Christmas card telling her they've never heard of her.

Ack! You're right, it is "Primitive." Sorry about that.

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/newsarticle.asp?nid=17876

http://www.foofighters.com/press/press_entry.php?id=207

Also, it's been said in the above, but anyway, from www.blabbermouth.net:

FOO FIGHTERS frontman/ex-NIRVANA drummer Dave Grohl has laid
down the drum tracks for the new KILLING JOKE album, tentatively titled "Axis of Evil", according to Billboard. The project, which will be out in June on Sony worldwide, was produced by GANG OF FOUR's Andy Gill and is the veteran U.K. rock act's first since 1996's "Democracy".

Grohl, who is said to be a huge KILLING JOKE fan, met the group's leader, Jaz Coleman, in New Zealand recently and agreed to play on the album. They recorded the drum tracks the last week of March in Los Angeles. Grohl has no plans to tour with the band, like he did with QUEENS OF THE STONE AGE last year in support of their Interscope album "Songs For The Deaf" after contributing drum tracks to that release.

The reunited KILLING JOKE, who were last believed to be working with a lineup featuring Coleman, guitarist Geordie, bassist Paul Raven (ex-
PRONG), and drummer Ted Parsons (ex-GODFLESH/PRONG), were
previously reported to have completed work on a new studio album at the end of last year. The CD, then tentatively titled "The Death & Resurrection Show", was said to have been tracked in London and Los Angeles and was set to feature guest appearances from members of TOOL and SYSTEM OF A DOWN. It is not presently clear if any of those initial recordings will surface as part of the new collection

Out today!!!! Not the new album, but the official release of age-old bootleg.