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Charlie Brooker otm (as usual) about this whole ridiculous saga.

cock++; (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 06:36 (fifteen years ago) link

if you order a steak in a resturant rare are u being racist because you want it pink not black????
h, bristol

Bravo

Alba, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 08:58 (fifteen years ago) link

And congratulations again to the lily livered BBC for standing by their employees, not.

What a broad smile! It is like a delta! (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 10:04 (fifteen years ago) link

she said an english driver mayb that ment sum1 that can speak good english i kno myself many "foriegners" dnt speak great english and i struggle 2 understand them!! at no point did she say "i want a white driver" so how can people jump to the conclusion its racist!!! i thought that in order to be racist she`d have had to say i want a white english driver!!!! but she didnt she said an english driver would be great! when i get a taxi i look for a white english driver not because of his/her colour but because i struggle to understand some people and i dont want to offend them by saying sorry i dnt understand you!!! but mayb u think thats racist! if you do thats fine thats ur opinion which your entitled to!!!!

Peter "One Dart" Manley (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 10:10 (fifteen years ago) link

It's terrible how Jeff Mills and Underground Resistance keep getting pulled into these debates.

What a broad smile! It is like a delta! (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 10:35 (fifteen years ago) link

when i get a taxi i look for a white english driver not because of his/her colour but because i struggle to understand some people and i dont want to offend them by saying sorry i dnt understand you!!!

so considerate

slap bass: the ungentle art (stevie), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 10:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Sherrie said: "She's not a racist.
"She has babysat for my children

Oh, well then..

(later)

"I'm sure all of us have been guilty of making sexist or racist comments at some time in our lives, and yes, in essence, what Sam said was racist, however one comment does not make you a racist person – let's not get carried away."

Riiiight.... (with friends like this, etc)

Mark G, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 11:40 (fifteen years ago) link

So you murdered one person, it's not like you're going around murdering people all the time, come on! One murder doesn't make you a murderer... oh hang on a minute...

snoball, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 13:19 (fifteen years ago) link

She's not on the B*P membership list; give her a break.

What a broad smile! It is like a delta! (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 14:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, before that we have bigger fish to fry excrement to send to 12,000 racists.

snoball, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 14:53 (fifteen years ago) link

I trust someone will be publishing the names and addresses of all members of the Scottish Nationalist Party and Plwyd Cymru, for balance.

What a broad smile! It is like a delta! (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 14:55 (fifteen years ago) link

...or even Plaid Cymru (why do I suddenly think of Steve Martin?)...

What a broad smile! It is like a delta! (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 14:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Scottish Nationalist Party

Or even Scottish National Party.

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 15:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, well you know, it's been a long time since I was up there...

What a broad smile! It is like a delta! (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 15:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Actually: what exactly was that comment about, anyway? I trust it's not to be taken literally.

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 15:17 (fifteen years ago) link

(I mean, I absolutely refuse to even credit that notion. It just seems a bit odd in this thread, that's all!)

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 15:17 (fifteen years ago) link

If we're talking explicitly nationalist political parties...

What a broad smile! It is like a delta! (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 15:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Er. Nationalism is marginally more complex than that, as well you know.

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 15:27 (fifteen years ago) link

The SNP in the seventies weren't exactly in a rush not to be compared with the NF down south, for example; local branch meetings at the time made much of the comparison...

What a broad smile! It is like a delta! (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 15:27 (fifteen years ago) link

But it's all pretty irrelevant in the end; the Tories will end up using the soft end of the B4P's policies out of desperation at the next election, as they always do, and any "threat" will be nullified.

What a broad smile! It is like a delta! (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 15:29 (fifteen years ago) link

I'll admit I know absolutely fuck all about the SNP in the 1970s and 1980s; from the little I have gleaned, they sound like a grim bunch of bastards. I think you'd have to accept, though, that the current party of government in Scotland, while fundamentally "nationalist" in nature, is a) a radically different proposition from the SNP as it used to be; b) a fundamentally different proposition to the BNP.

I have terrible problems with the N in SNP; however, these things become a semantic shorthand over time and the whole "SNP/BNP" argument is one even the most asinine Scottish Labourites don't bother with any more. There is also, of course, the whole notion that the perception (and indeed nature) of nationalism changes depending on status, which is one reason why overt displays of English national pride are often interpreted as being aggressive/dominant/triumphalist, while dudes in kilts with saltires are broadly indulged.

I'm not saying it isn't a valid argument: of course it is. But it's certainly not one that can be reduced to the two words "national" and "party".

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 15:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Lesley Douglas, the former BBC Radio 2 boss who resigned over the Russell Brand row, is join Universal Music.

She will become the label's director of programming and business development, creating TV programmes and sponsorship deals for artists like Take That.

One more for the 'winners' pile...

Mark G, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 16:01 (fifteen years ago) link

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7748483.stm

"is join" hmmm...

Mark G, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 16:02 (fifteen years ago) link

She went to see the boss man at Universal in the company of John Noel, the agent of one R Brand.

In retrospect she probably deserved to be turfed out of R2 on the basis of nepotism alone.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 26 November 2008 08:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Why shouldn't she look after herself? She's the victim of a ridiculous Daily Mail campaign.

I'm Richard (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 26 November 2008 09:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Seems like she was being looked after all the time.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 26 November 2008 09:16 (fifteen years ago) link

"More sinned against than sinning" I reckons.

But sinning all the same.

Mark G, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 09:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Sin something simple.

I'm Richard (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 26 November 2008 09:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Georgina Baillie in The Guardian:

Time needs to go by before I can face my family. My grandparents are from a different generation. Things that are acceptable, or almost acceptable, to me are not acceptable to them, so it's going to be difficult for a while.

...

They knew that I did topless stuff, because my grandad actually introduced me to the photographer for page three shots.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2008/nov/27/georgina-baillie-russell-brand

James Mitchell, Thursday, 27 November 2008 08:48 (fifteen years ago) link

If the media is making money off you, you're entitled to make money off them. That's a rule Max Clifford taught me.

Says it all, really.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 27 November 2008 08:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Well, it's either that or "not make money", i.e. the same crap happens, but the press keeps it all.

Mark G, Thursday, 27 November 2008 09:22 (fifteen years ago) link

The moral is: don't lose the video camera.

If indeed she actually "lost" it.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 27 November 2008 09:23 (fifteen years ago) link

What really offends me about Radio 1 is that its presenters are incapable of shutting theirgobs for even one nanosecond and generally spout robot crap at maximum volume whenever they are open, which is 100% of the time.

But I doubt any emails of protest from me would result in their dismissal.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Monday, 1 December 2008 14:41 (fifteen years ago) link

(xpost) that's on the Sky News website.

snoball, Monday, 1 December 2008 14:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Has Damian Green exposed himself yet?

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Monday, 1 December 2008 14:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Daily Mail have grabbed hold of Barrowman's... oh ffs you work out the rest of the joke...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1090801/BBC-new-decency-row-Torchwood-star-John-Barrowman-exposes-live-broadcast.html

snoball, Monday, 1 December 2008 15:13 (fifteen years ago) link

It also said Mac apologised at the end of the show and that no complaints had been received last night.

Probably 3000 complaints by now, after the Mail decided it was a Good Story and therefore published pornographic material which they knew would be offensive to its readers.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Monday, 1 December 2008 15:17 (fifteen years ago) link

We were listening to this: Bman apologised for saying "bollocks" but that was all.

Although, we did finish our journey before the show ended.

Mark G, Monday, 1 December 2008 15:22 (fifteen years ago) link

you can clearly see JB's helmet...
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/12/01/article-1090801-02A74733000005DC-88_468x286.jpg

snoball, Monday, 1 December 2008 15:23 (fifteen years ago) link

INVIDIOUS INSULT TO BRITISH OLYMPIC HERO CHRIS HOY

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Monday, 1 December 2008 15:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Never heard of him, Doctor who is a childrens programme, but he will be famous now.
When will people stop copying the sex pistols.
Bill, Hampshire, 1/12/2008 11:28

The Biggest Event In The History Of Ethnic Comedy (DJ Mencap), Monday, 1 December 2008 15:34 (fifteen years ago) link

WHEN INDEED?!
Who can forget the outrage when Steve Jones got his cock out on a webcam back in the 70's? And no-one actually saw it because the camera was pointed at his face instead?

snoball, Monday, 1 December 2008 15:36 (fifteen years ago) link

ffs get over it, Grundy!

DavidM, Monday, 1 December 2008 15:36 (fifteen years ago) link

LOL

Ant Attack.. (Ste), Monday, 1 December 2008 15:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Doesn't all this kind of outrage tell a story? The radio and television broadcasters have been infiltrated with loonies who are frankly amoral: not knowing what is right from what is wrong. These dregs of society bring along more dross in the name of 'entertainment' some of which is quite vile and demeaning. Organisations who have the ability to enter our homes and thrust their warped visions of entertainment upon us and our children via TV and radio should be brought to accountability once again - AND HELD THERE !.
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- John B, Lancs, 1/12/2008 13:03

Lots of comments I note about Barrowman "getting above himself" and "getting above his station" and "I liked him until he 'came out'."

Cover up those chair legs, obv.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Monday, 1 December 2008 15:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Grundy: "What was the rude word?"
Rotten: "Shit."

OMG!!! BRING BACK HANGING!!!

snoball, Monday, 1 December 2008 15:38 (fifteen years ago) link

- John B, Lancs, 1/12/2008 13:03

I'm not surprised that this guy's angry, what with being named after a song about maritime amorality.

snoball, Monday, 1 December 2008 15:40 (fifteen years ago) link


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