and in fairness all he said was that he hadn't seen the book. he comes across pretty well in my book, and not overly defensive.
― charlie h, Friday, 24 September 2010 07:25 (thirteen years ago) link
oh definitely, he seemed fine.
― the cusses of 2 live crew (stevie), Friday, 24 September 2010 08:14 (thirteen years ago) link
Your book and Beefheart's Through The Eyes of Magic combined were both the kind of books I'd make excuses to go and read throughout my busy day. "Hey there's a lightbulb out in the bathroom, I'm going in to fix it." Then I'd sit and feverishly devour these books. I think I read yours in three sittings. Not trying to blow smoke, but Spray Paint the Walls is really more than any Flag fan could have wanted. Thanks for writing it.
I actually put in to do My War for the 33 1/3 series, got a "good idea!" response email, but never followed up. I think your book sorta nullifies that 'good idea,' anyway.
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 24 September 2010 14:50 (thirteen years ago) link
reyes seems like a bro of the highest caliber
― my balls and my nerds (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 September 2010 15:10 (thirteen years ago) link
wow, thanks! i sweat blood on this book, and its by no means perfect, so to see you write that means a lot. and i think there's definitely more to be written abt the flag, esp on My War. i'd read your book in a flash.
xp
― the cusses of 2 live crew (stevie), Friday, 24 September 2010 15:18 (thirteen years ago) link
ron's really great. i think my interview with him for the book was the first he'd given in years - i didn't think i had a chance in hell of speaking to him, and then joe nolte got in touch and said "i have a friend you might want to speak to for your book, if you're interested?" he's really sweet, really honest, really humble.
― the cusses of 2 live crew (stevie), Friday, 24 September 2010 15:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh Nardwuar, never change.
― (¬_¬) (Nicole), Friday, 24 September 2010 15:23 (thirteen years ago) link
"Reality 86'd" A film by David Markey
http://vimeo.com/23499919
"Reality 86'd" A film by David Markey (c) 1991 We Got Power Films. (TRT 01:01:51) A road documentary shot from the inside of the last Black Flag tour ever (the 1986 "In My Head" US tour.) Greg Ginn along with Henry Rollins, Cel Revulta, and Anthony Martinez comprise the final line up of the band. Featuring behind the scenes proceedings and live performances from Black Flag, Painted Willie, and Gone (Ginn's side project, then featuring Sim Cain and Andrew Weiss (later of the Rollins Band) . Filmmaker / musician David Markey was along for the entire trip as the drummer / singer for Painted Willie (with Phil Newman & Vic Makauskas), documenting the six month tour as it happened. Also features roadie Joe ("Planet Joe") Cole, soundmen Davo Claasen and Dave "Ratman" Levine, and the tour manager who kept it all together, Mitch Bury. A crucial turning point in American underground rock. The end of the line for a trail blazing American band.
― am0n, Thursday, 12 May 2011 15:37 (twelve years ago) link
bump
― am0n, Thursday, 12 May 2011 17:46 (twelve years ago) link
awesome! thanks for posting.
― tylerw, Thursday, 12 May 2011 17:47 (twelve years ago) link
thanks man
how long before it gets yanked or does ginn not care anymore
― the first rule of debate club (Edward III), Thursday, 12 May 2011 17:49 (twelve years ago) link
not sure ginn knows about the internet
― tylerw, Thursday, 12 May 2011 17:49 (twelve years ago) link
his army of cat soldiers will inform him
― the first rule of debate club (Edward III), Thursday, 12 May 2011 17:55 (twelve years ago) link
lol painted willie is the worst band
― i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 12 May 2011 17:56 (twelve years ago) link
they perfect that vibe of when you are in a band and you start dicking around jamming some riff just for kicks but you'd never actually like play like that for real people
― i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:00 (twelve years ago) link
and then they put out records and went on tour
― the first rule of debate club (Edward III), Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:01 (twelve years ago) link
at least they didn't waste a good band name on it
― some dude, Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:05 (twelve years ago) link
painted willie is the source of a weird in-joke with some of my high school friends. whenever we'd be in van nuys (which was strangely often) we'd shout "LIVE FROM VAN NUYS!" i'm not even sure how we knew this phrase, i've never heard the ep. but it was def a reference to it.
― tylerw, Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:10 (twelve years ago) link
true story about painted willie.
― tylerw, Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:11 (twelve years ago) link
I almost bought that record so many times and now I'm real curious about what it sounds like
maybe age has transformed it into some unheralded classic
― the first rule of debate club (Edward III), Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:15 (twelve years ago) link
If you need some background.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:16 (twelve years ago) link
i must've just seen it in record stores a lot in the early 90s, and thought that "Live From Van Nuys" was a great name for a record. kind of doubt it's a classic but ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8h5xuNVuVE
― tylerw, Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:17 (twelve years ago) link
was just about to post that!
man ppl were really jamming out to painted willie
― the first rule of debate club (Edward III), Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:17 (twelve years ago) link
guy wearing his own band's shirt NAGL
― the first rule of debate club (Edward III), Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:18 (twelve years ago) link
maybe if like you'd never heard...like...any hard rock band ever or something they would be good?
― i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:20 (twelve years ago) link
lol, yeah, maybe not an unheralded classic. something impressively unspectacular about them though. like kind of archetypal mid-80s socal garage band.
― tylerw, Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:21 (twelve years ago) link
maybe after you've heard every hard rock band ever, and your great all-knowing mind tires, maybe that's when you turn to painted willie
― the first rule of debate club (Edward III), Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:22 (twelve years ago) link
we should do a poll for worst second wave SST band, DC3, painted willie, tom troccoli's dog, october faction, etc
painted willie might win and that would be something
― the first rule of debate club (Edward III), Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:25 (twelve years ago) link
maybe ginn made them keep all the weed in the painted willie van?
― i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:26 (twelve years ago) link
Painted Willie then embarked on a six-month national tour opening for Gone and Black Flag in 1986, which would be Black Flag's last tour. The band recorded and released the Live from Van Nuys EP during that tour live EP during the tour titled simply Live From Van Nuys. Dave filmed eight years of footage for an eventual documentary of the tour that would be called Reality 86'd but Ginn didn't want it to be released. Black Flag singer Henry Rollins tried to have it released in 1994 through a distribution deal he struck with Time Warner but Ginn still refused.[3][5]
― the first rule of debate club (Edward III), Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:32 (twelve years ago) link
8 years of footage! I had no idea 1986 lasted that long
― the first rule of debate club (Edward III), Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:33 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:57 (twelve years ago) link
ginn's weed made things seem crazy long back then.
― tylerw, Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:59 (twelve years ago) link
there's a good band name: Ginn's Weed
don't overlook how terrible gone sounds in that video, made my ears pinch my nose and say "p.u."
― am0n, Thursday, 12 May 2011 19:12 (twelve years ago) link
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-nnxeaxhfJ5w/TYfh1RO66eI/AAAAAAAAFTI/5yjZJJzNGgM/s400/no-age.jpgdownloaded this a month or so ago thinking it'd be so rad, but it is kind of terrible! see for yourself: http://luckypsychichut.blogspot.com/2011/03/no-age-compilation-of-sst-instrumental.html
― tylerw, Thursday, 12 May 2011 19:13 (twelve years ago) link
"this is awful. you've got to try it"
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 12 May 2011 19:14 (twelve years ago) link
totally shitty. yr gonna love it.
― tylerw, Thursday, 12 May 2011 19:16 (twelve years ago) link
the food is terrible, and such small portions
― i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 12 May 2011 19:17 (twelve years ago) link
The Food Is Terrible, and Such Small Portions: The Best of Painted Willie
― tylerw, Thursday, 12 May 2011 19:23 (twelve years ago) link
This milk's gone sour, smell it.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 12 May 2011 19:24 (twelve years ago) link
wnkiw these people/bands
(lol @ the punk rock drum circle though)
― adult music person (Jordan), Thursday, 12 May 2011 19:41 (twelve years ago) link
Sorry, ""Reality 86'd" A film by David Markey" was deleted at 1:49:29 Mon May 23, 2011. Vimeo has removed or disabled access to the following material as a result of a third-party notification by Greg Ginn claiming that this material is infringing: "Reality 86'd" A film by David Markey. We have no more information about it on our mainframe or elsewhere.
― am0n, Monday, 23 May 2011 20:39 (twelve years ago) link
― the first rule of debate club (Edward III), Thursday, May 12, 2011 1:49 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark
2 weeks apparently
― oh! me so brodie (Edward III), Monday, 23 May 2011 20:44 (twelve years ago) link
I just read an interview with markey, like, last week about this, c/r where it was
― oh! me so brodie (Edward III), Monday, 23 May 2011 20:45 (twelve years ago) link
oh here it is
http://www.viceland.com/blogs/en/2011/05/20/rettsounds-reality-86d/
― oh! me so brodie (Edward III), Monday, 23 May 2011 20:52 (twelve years ago) link
that ibanez he played during that period sounded horrible
― am0n, Tuesday, 24 May 2011 17:00 (twelve years ago) link
Forgive me if this has been posted elsewhere, nothing came up on search.
Black Face - Dukowski teams up with Eugene Robinson to play some unreleased Chuck-written BF material and choice Flag tunes, Ginn nearly involved at one point, I'm excited!
http://www.viceland.com/music/2011/08/chuck-dukowski-from-black-flag-has-a-new-band-with-eugene-robinson/
― solfege made me schizophrenic (MaresNest), Friday, 5 August 2011 10:53 (twelve years ago) link
Eugene posted this on the Supersonic FB page yesterday. I'm hoping there's a reason why.
― 50,000 raspberries with the face of Peter Ndlovu (aldo), Saturday, 6 August 2011 14:23 (twelve years ago) link
So Kira won an oscar for sound mixing Mad Max last night. I had no idea:
http://www.stereogum.com/1862449/former-black-flag-bassist-wins-an-oscar-for-mad-max-fury-road/news/?utm_source=sc-fb&utm_medium=ref&utm_campaign
― Darin, Tuesday, 1 March 2016 00:02 (eight years ago) link