russell brand - C or D?

Actually: what exactly was that comment about, anyway? I trust it's not to be taken literally.

(I mean, I absolutely refuse to even credit that notion. It just seems a bit odd in this thread, that's all!)

If we're talking explicitly nationalist political parties...

Er. Nationalism is marginally more complex than that, as well you know.

The SNP in the seventies weren't exactly in a rush not to be compared with the NF down south, for example; local branch meetings at the time made much of the comparison...

But it's all pretty irrelevant in the end; the Tories will end up using the soft end of the B4P's policies out of desperation at the next election, as they always do, and any "threat" will be nullified.

I'll admit I know absolutely fuck all about the SNP in the 1970s and 1980s; from the little I have gleaned, they sound like a grim bunch of bastards. I think you'd have to accept, though, that the current party of government in Scotland, while fundamentally "nationalist" in nature, is a) a radically different proposition from the SNP as it used to be; b) a fundamentally different proposition to the BNP.

I have terrible problems with the N in SNP; however, these things become a semantic shorthand over time and the whole "SNP/BNP" argument is one even the most asinine Scottish Labourites don't bother with any more. There is also, of course, the whole notion that the perception (and indeed nature) of nationalism changes depending on status, which is one reason why overt displays of English national pride are often interpreted as being aggressive/dominant/triumphalist, while dudes in kilts with saltires are broadly indulged.

I'm not saying it isn't a valid argument: of course it is. But it's certainly not one that can be reduced to the two words "national" and "party".

No further action to be taken against Ross.

Lesley Douglas, the former BBC Radio 2 boss who resigned over the Russell Brand row, is join Universal Music.

She will become the label's director of programming and business development, creating TV programmes and sponsorship deals for artists like Take That.

One more for the 'winners' pile...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7748483.stm

"is join" hmmm...

She went to see the boss man at Universal in the company of John Noel, the agent of one R Brand.

In retrospect she probably deserved to be turfed out of R2 on the basis of nepotism alone.

Why shouldn't she look after herself? She's the victim of a ridiculous Daily Mail campaign.

Seems like she was being looked after all the time.

"More sinned against than sinning" I reckons.

But sinning all the same.

Sin something simple.

Georgina Baillie in The Guardian:

Time needs to go by before I can face my family. My grandparents are from a different generation. Things that are acceptable, or almost acceptable, to me are not acceptable to them, so it's going to be difficult for a while.

...

They knew that I did topless stuff, because my grandad actually introduced me to the photographer for page three shots.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2008/nov/27/georgina-baillie-russell-brand

If the media is making money off you, you're entitled to make money off them. That's a rule Max Clifford taught me.

Says it all, really.

Well, it's either that or "not make money", i.e. the same crap happens, but the press keeps it all.

The moral is: don't lose the video camera.

If indeed she actually "lost" it.

TV actor John Barrowman exposing himself during a live radio show 'overstepped the mark', the BBC has admitted.

What really offends me about Radio 1 is that its presenters are incapable of shutting theirgobs for even one nanosecond and generally spout robot crap at maximum volume whenever they are open, which is 100% of the time.

But I doubt any emails of protest from me would result in their dismissal.

(xpost) that's on the Sky News website.

Has Damian Green exposed himself yet?

Daily Mail have grabbed hold of Barrowman's... oh ffs you work out the rest of the joke...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1090801/BBC-new-decency-row-Torchwood-star-John-Barrowman-exposes-live-broadcast.html

It also said Mac apologised at the end of the show and that no complaints had been received last night.

Probably 3000 complaints by now, after the Mail decided it was a Good Story and therefore published pornographic material which they knew would be offensive to its readers.

We were listening to this: Bman apologised for saying "bollocks" but that was all.

Although, we did finish our journey before the show ended.

you can clearly see JB's helmet...
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/12/01/article-1090801-02A74733000005DC-88_468x286.jpg

INVIDIOUS INSULT TO BRITISH OLYMPIC HERO CHRIS HOY

Never heard of him, Doctor who is a childrens programme, but he will be famous now.
When will people stop copying the sex pistols.
Bill, Hampshire, 1/12/2008 11:28

WHEN INDEED?!
Who can forget the outrage when Steve Jones got his cock out on a webcam back in the 70's? And no-one actually saw it because the camera was pointed at his face instead?

ffs get over it, Grundy!

LOL

Doesn't all this kind of outrage tell a story? The radio and television broadcasters have been infiltrated with loonies who are frankly amoral: not knowing what is right from what is wrong. These dregs of society bring along more dross in the name of 'entertainment' some of which is quite vile and demeaning. Organisations who have the ability to enter our homes and thrust their warped visions of entertainment upon us and our children via TV and radio should be brought to accountability once again - AND HELD THERE !.
Click to rate Rating 17

- John B, Lancs, 1/12/2008 13:03

Lots of comments I note about Barrowman "getting above himself" and "getting above his station" and "I liked him until he 'came out'."

Cover up those chair legs, obv.

Grundy: "What was the rude word?"
Rotten: "Shit."

OMG!!! BRING BACK HANGING!!!

- John B, Lancs, 1/12/2008 13:03

I'm not surprised that this guy's angry, what with being named after a song about maritime amorality.

DIG UP CORPSE OF VILE PERVERT GRUNDY AND FLOG HIM IN TRAFALGAR SQUARE!!!

fourpence?

Depends whether they can get Anthea Turner to host it on live TV.

Barrowman tied the knot with architect Scott Gill at a civil ceremony in Cardiff a couple of years ago.

"knot" geddit? fnar fnar

ROYAL KNOT FURY AT SO-CALLED GAY "WEDDING" SLUR

They should bring back hanging, but from what I've heard, Barrowman's pretty well hung already! hahaha... oh dear...

Fucking weakarse fucking BBC. Stop fucking kneejerking at every fucking Daily Mail-reading fucking granny who fucking whinges about fucking SWEARING or fucking NUDITY ON RADIO you fucking braindead horsefuckers.

That's definitely one way of putting it...

It's bizarre isn't it? Like the ventriloquist who used to perform on the radio apparently, back in my nan's day. Not that he got his hampton out. As far as we know.

And then Educating Archie went on TV and (a) the ventriloquist was revealed to be crap, (b) the TV show was downright creepy (dummy sitting on sofa entirely separate from vent, etc.) and (c) killed the act stone dead, so it did.

"Educating Archie is another case of a radio show which took over the country in a way no radio show could do now. Kiddies licked Archie Andrews lollipops and washed themselves with Archie Andrews soap; there were Archie Andrews comics and annuals, and the dummy's face appeared everywhere."

Sounds like weird science fiction dystopia, or kakatopia for pedants, doesn't it? Like a Fall song.

"A man came up to them
He wanted sex in the dummies eyes
Then came up the cry:
"Security, mobilize!""

AND THE DUMMY'S FACE APPEARED EVERYWHERE

Kiddies licked Archie Andrews lollipops
Kiddies licked Archie Andrews lollipops
Kiddies licked Archie Andrews lollipops
Kiddies licked Archie Andrews lollipops
Kiddies licked Archie Andrews lollipops

who is this limey turd?