I HATE APPLE

I know...and you know what I mean. To all Mac users, that was the transition we had to make.

it even has a shitty home icon

s/shitty home icon/awesome early 90s style icon/

http://www.art.net/~hopkins/Don/simcity/simcity-announcement.html

man i love high end unix workstations!

whoa

http://www.art.net/~hopkins/Don/simcity/SimCity-For-X11.gif

Grab.app

I'm pretty impressed with the longevity of NeXTStep -- interface builder is 20 years old ffs

http://www.kernelthread.com/mac/vpc/images/nextstep.jpg

nice cd player guys

i'm getting quite sold on this

http://www.technologyreview.com/files/10987/0507-Next_x400.jpg

Apparently the website for GNUstep still exists. Open source NeXT-alike that was supposed to reimplement the next apis, but then OS X happened. Apparently they implemented "some" Cocoa stuff and you can cross-compile! I fully expected the website to be mothballed from a few years ago

http://www.gnustep.org/

Yeah, that was what I was referencing, obv

can i run mortal kombat on it?

I ran WindowMaker for much of 1998-2004.

I ran AfterStep for quite a while before WindowMaker came out then switched over, around the time I religiously hunted for ebay deals on a NeXT machine and pondered whether I could afford one of them off deepspacetech.com (which now apparently sells presentation boards).

I just need a gender changer and soon I will be running Solaris 10 on a SunBlade 100!

the screen on this fucking thing is too big for my brain

worth it?

repair CD drive on 12" and reinstall with latest OSX and then spring for newest shiniest iMac when school starts?

scrap 12" and drop $$$ on MBP?

the former seems like a better idea

but more $$$

I bought an external (like $60) and then sprung for this beast - newest shiniest iMac - when the lemon finally bled out.

can you live with an external optical drive until school?

I'm never owning an apple "top of the line" laptop again

whoah i didn't even know that externals were that cheap! i just want the 12" to stick around because it is tiny and awesome. i'd basically just use it for notes/email/web when on campus and leave any sort of heavy-lifting to new and shiny desktop

I learned to program properly (like not QBasic) on a NeXT workstation. Oxford Physics computing lab had rather eccentric tastes in the late 90s. Hearing the "Ping" system sound on OS X, which was the default beep on NeXT, makes me feel 18 again.

Honest to god, gen-1 NeXT keyboards are the 2nd-most RSI-matic keyboards in the world.

yeah gbx thinking about how cheap commodity peripherals actually are is one of those things mac kids are bad at because of the all-in-one package concept they trick us into. it's never bad to have a few buddies of the *nix/MS vmware-everything newegg.com bookmarker stripe

Prob is that those friends post on fark about how models' knobby knees are too ugly for their standards.

yeah gbx thinking about how cheap commodity peripherals actually are is one of those things mac kids are bad at

this is very true. i think i will be purchasing an external HD very soon, as well.

the trick is to never under any circumstances discuss women with them

all the guys I know that fit that description have wives or gfs well into the >7/10 range, actually

they even pay their taxes on time

No PgUp/PgDn buttons
No backspace key
One mouse button!

How do you work shit when you download it and it comes up as a disc image!?

sorry, no key w/ delete function...

I know it sucks, but you get those keys by pressing the function key and hitting arrows or delete.

Also, two-finger-tap as right-click is definitely one of Apple's better UI inventions.

yeah, i worked that out, just sucks having to use two hands for what was one finger previously.

what about the stuff I download?

What do you need stuff you download to do?

um, run it without it coming up as a warning it's off the internet... Move it somewhere that makes sense rather than a whole lot of fake drives (.dmg files) sitting around on the desktop...

Never used a Mac before and am totally unused to assumably simple concepts so go easy.

The running-without-a-warning stuff can be circumnavigated, but it requires a little applescript hacking. You should put up with it unless you are really determined to get rid of it.

Downloads should go to the "Downloads" folder in yr home folder. You can change this destination in the Safari/Firefox/whatever preferences. If you want easy access to this folder with stacks, etc., open up yr home folder and carefully drag the downloads folder to the right side of the dock. Right-click (two-finger-click or control-click) to set its display options.

Apps you download will stop sending the 'off the internet alert' once you have dragged them into the Applications folder and run them once, no hacking required.

wait, drag the .dmg files into the applications folder? or just the executable file? where to put the other files?

Run the dmg once. The app file will appear. Put the app file in your Appliccations folder. Delete the dmg file. The end.

I am confused about your keyboard problems. Are you using a laptop or a desktop?

Ah, I misunderstood. Follow Ed's advice (and don't run apps from the mounted DMG).

That's right.

(for what it's worth, S, I find the disk image method for adding apps the least streamlined, most clunky thing about OS X. It's not hard once you're shown what to do, but it's very hands-on and unobvious)

With some downloads, when you run the dmg file, it creates a handy alias (=shortcut) to the Applications folder next to the app file, with a little picture that encourages you to drag it there.

The uninstall method, however, makes a lot more sense than Windows. (xp)

when i get the replacement, should i use disk utility to just copy over my HD or use migration assistant? hmmm ...

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use migration assist unless you did some dark voodoo shit

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suppose i don't want to bother re-inputting all of my old software licenses?

Migration Assistant took care of every license I transferred to my new Mac last week except for Little Snitch, I think.

I'm still confused about your keyboard problems. You talk about having a mouse, which suggests you're on a desktop machine, but full-size Mac keyboards do have a delete key. And even MacBook keyboards have page up/down keys (in the bottom right corner)

Migration Assistant works surprisingly well. It's not perfect, but pretty damned good.

xp: S- is unhappy about the lack of single-key pgup/pgdown, etc.

Oh yeah, I forgot. On a MacBook you need to use the Fn key with them to make them behave as page up/down.

Is a bit rubbish, I agree.

Migration Assistant took care of every license I transferred to my new Mac last week except for Little Snitch, I think.

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me too ... except for mathematica GRRRRRRRRR