Techno/House Bobbins of the past

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Elan guessed right:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkGHZcB4xAg

srsly dudes pastiche aesthetic + amiable nihilism (Display Name), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 04:38 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd wager that 50% of classic house samples are from that song.

elan, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 06:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Thanks. You've put many months of curiousity at rest.
And yes, it's funny, it almost sounds like a collage of classic house fragments in some weird reverse sense.

EDB, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 23:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Only slightly "of the past", but anyone got luv for Dan Electro - Bite the Hand that Feeds LP (Robsoul)?

http://www.phonicarecords.com/product/view/65416

The most thorough, full-on gospel house release I've encountered yet. Stupid deep, with some broken beat bits thrown in too. Been impressing me for some time, but I never hear anything about it. Thoughts?

SSS, Friday, 1 October 2010 18:08 (thirteen years ago) link

hadn't heard that before, sounds good. I recognised a sample or two from Geeez N Gosh. Dan Electro sounds more dancefloor obvs.

mmmm, Friday, 1 October 2010 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link

first heard dan electro on recloose's classic "jig saw music" mix for eskimo ("down is the power"!!!), dude is so awesome

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 1 October 2010 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Dear people with a knowledge of dance music history leagues ahead of mine, if you have any comments on the role of HIV/AIDS in disco/house circles and their reactions to it, and don't mind commenting on it in this thread, I would appreciate it.

EDB, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 17:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Sure everyone's heard these (and visited percussionlab) before but I'm just glutting myself on the classic X-Mixes streaming here:

http://www.percussionlab.com/sets

bike chain dust? (lukas), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link

proud owner of all of those x-mixes

saunderson and garnier's are the bomb. dave angel's not as good as it looks on paper. dave clarke's was epochal at the time but sort of tiring now. dj hell's has really really great stretches but also a middle section that bogs down a bit. the first half is gold though.

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 22:10 (thirteen years ago) link

feeling this so much:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHT-wy2Uudw

(underworld innit)

De que estas hablando? (Tannenbaum Schmidt), Monday, 18 October 2010 23:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I really rate the John Acquavia x-mix (bizarrely coupled with a Hawtin mix on the same disc - also good but I prefer his Mixmag Live). This was a time when prog house and techno could happily exist side by side - top stuff.

http://www.discogs.com/Richie-Hawtin-John-Acquaviva-X-Mix-3-Enter-Digital-Reality/release/2863

sam500, Tuesday, 19 October 2010 07:26 (thirteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

brutal. like, nitro deluxe level of brutal.

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 23:56 (thirteen years ago) link

re-discovered Wild Planet 'Electron' recently

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xNLfwMTzA8

Noel 1 Silence 0 (blueski), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 23:59 (thirteen years ago) link

LOVING 'Tanzen'! maybe it's just the video...

Noel 1 Silence 0 (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 00:06 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah the dancers reflected in the mirrorshades is super key

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 00:44 (thirteen years ago) link

wildplanet is hella sick and this is also the jam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo9eGbHzcPg

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 00:45 (thirteen years ago) link

be sure to check the haswell remix

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 00:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Sometimes you've got to love bookstores that know fuck all about anything that's not indie rock for putting gems in their dollar bin.

Scored this gem (among other things yet to be listened to, but which included two Phuture singles) for $1.

This track is gorgeous.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbowdbALm7A&feature=related

EDB, Thursday, 18 November 2010 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Just got this yesterday, FM insanity:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBFhaAh7Ov0

Volker Veldeke, Monday, 29 November 2010 05:31 (thirteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Uizfv1h8oc

so dope

missingNO, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 13:35 (thirteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

another essential Chicago house record just got repressed, g strings - land of dreams. super plaintive sci-fi tear-jacker:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TccEptvVwb8

missingNO, Thursday, 13 January 2011 02:39 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Hello - I'm interested in delving more into non-rave, non-electro early-techno stuff. I know the names - Kevin Saunderson, James Stinson, Jeff Mills, Drexciya etc - but not the releases. Basically I want to know more about the stuff Azari & III, Soul Clap and Art Department are getting their ideas from. Also, the kind of sound that informed The Other People Place album.

I've got a bunch of things - couple of compilations including Flux Tracks, Warp Classics, Soul Jazz' Acid. But what else should I get?

barieling cosder chout a fagh in a ballme thrantuman (dog latin), Thursday, 3 March 2011 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't know what most of those new references are, but you can look for the original compilations. Techno: The New Dance Sound of Detroit and Techno 2, as well as the Transmat comp, Relics. Warp Classics but also Warp Influences, different volumes.

dan selzer, Thursday, 3 March 2011 20:17 (thirteen years ago) link

discogs + youtube

spacemindy, Thursday, 3 March 2011 21:01 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm hearing MK (Marc Kinchen)'s name as an influence recently. Well, not hearing it so much as newer artists bigging him up.

mmmm, Thursday, 3 March 2011 21:48 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZHn9MggePU

Can't get enough of that track...

jimitheexploder, Thursday, 3 March 2011 22:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Thats recent though, right? Last couple of years?

mmmm, Thursday, 3 March 2011 22:27 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_v3AT_Jbws

mmmm, Thursday, 3 March 2011 22:52 (thirteen years ago) link

new collection of unreleased virgo four stuff on rush hour is kinda mindblowing, though i'm not sure i want to throw down for the 5 lp box set with twice as many tracks as the cd version - http://www.rushhour.nl/virgofour/

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Thursday, 3 March 2011 23:05 (thirteen years ago) link

I bought the iTunes version. It all SOUNDS great but maybe a bit too demo-ish. A bit boring at times. Some tracks using similar or same sounds as the released stuff. Sometimes the stripped down/demo quality is good, and some of the stuff w/ minimal vocals is cool, but definitely not something I want to pay a million dollars for to get that gorgeous vinyl box. Not yet at least!

dan selzer, Friday, 4 March 2011 01:00 (thirteen years ago) link

'Thats recent though, right? Last couple of years?'

Feels like a life time ago tbh... depends how on techno you are I guess. Its only getting older at any rate.

I've not seen many other people playing it for years so I guess its old.

jimitheexploder, Friday, 4 March 2011 02:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Mark Kinchin appears on Techno Two with Mirror, Mirror, not my favorite track on that comp. Of course it's competing with Psyche - Elements, Octave One - I Believe, Reel by Real - Aftermath, for starters.

dan selzer, Friday, 4 March 2011 02:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Area 10 - Love Takes Me Over

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSo_uUHNJ2E

dan selzer, Friday, 4 March 2011 02:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Reel by Real - Aftermath

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYn59vamHkc

dan selzer, Friday, 4 March 2011 02:33 (thirteen years ago) link

from the comments...

this was re-recorded at metroplex as my first release. the original was recorded in 1989 at kech's(strand313) grandfather's house on detroit's eastside. nothin' but a moded roland 303, mt32 module, 909 and lousy sequencer. wish i had the mixdown from the cassette tape!!!

dan selzer, Friday, 4 March 2011 02:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Marc Kinchen was an amazing remixer before he decided to shift into hip-hop/R&B at the end of the 1990s. He went from being a "buy-on-sight" name to not having his name anywhere. Wiki says he does in-house production for Will Smith now. Youtube everything with MK Dub, MK Mix, or Marc Kinchen in the title.

BUT he doesn't really have much to do with what Dog Latin is asking about. My recommendation to you, DL, is to imbibe whatever makes music sound the best to you, listen to the video below, and then keep youtubing. You won't go wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGDOyKPjK1s

elan, Friday, 4 March 2011 03:16 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XthPNPDu0rM

elan, Friday, 4 March 2011 03:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Here's a Drexciya song that I repeated on youtube a few dozen times when I first heard it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOBjmFGaNHA

elan, Friday, 4 March 2011 03:18 (thirteen years ago) link

And if we're dropping Mike Delgado tracks, here's my favorite. That guitar! I cannot stay still!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aThW44GXsOM

elan, Friday, 4 March 2011 03:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Wiki says MK is working with Willow Smith! Just imagine what he could do if he had a gram of his old spark...

elan, Friday, 4 March 2011 03:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Dog the three contemporary artists you mention are all much more house than techno so it's hard to say what sound you're looking for? Like I'd be recommending Steve hurley and early Larry heard rather than Detroit techno...

Tim F, Friday, 4 March 2011 09:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Thanks. I guess I'm interested in both techno and house (from what I understand, the further you go back, the more those styles become pretty much the same thing, save geographical differences). Coincidentally, there's a Guardian article out today about early Chicago house http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/mar/03/chicago-house-music-uk-audience

barieling cosder chout a fagh in a ballme thrantuman (dog latin), Friday, 4 March 2011 10:10 (thirteen years ago) link

(from what I understand, the further you go back, the more those styles become pretty much the same thing, save geographical differences)

Only if you're assuming that today techno = 150 bpm blitzkriegs and house = kylie, They were still pretty distinct circa, oh, 1987.

Tim F, Friday, 4 March 2011 11:37 (thirteen years ago) link

chez & trent

cherry blossom, Friday, 4 March 2011 11:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Tim, I'm not really assuming that. I'd previously read (probably on ILX from someone I assumed knew what he was talking about) that the only real difference between the earliest house and techno were where they came out of (Chicago/Detroit). But there must have still been some differences even then. Anyway, I'm out of my depth so I'll take your word for it.

Never could get into early techno/house before. I always had that Warp Classics comp and used to find that stuff more 'LOL primitive' than truly enjoyable (even though I used to love Tricky Disco and LFO when I was about 10). I'm feeling this now though. Nothing is tingling my ears more than a well placed 808 snare break. I've managed to get hold of the Warp Influences now, so that should tide me over for a bit. Thanks for all the suggestions people.

barieling cosder chout a fagh in a ballme thrantuman (dog latin), Friday, 4 March 2011 12:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Azari & III - Hungry For The Power (and suggest me some similar stuff) is not a bad thread for recommending older stuff in the vein of Azari & III, as far as I can remember.

EDB, Friday, 4 March 2011 15:06 (thirteen years ago) link

ah, hadn't seen that thread. thanks!

barieling cosder chout a fagh in a ballme thrantuman (dog latin), Friday, 4 March 2011 15:10 (thirteen years ago) link

This is so good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXje0oP6SCY&feature=related

EDB, Friday, 4 March 2011 16:54 (thirteen years ago) link

any excuse to bring out mike banks in a house style

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brTZ4a1reBY

cherry blossom, Friday, 4 March 2011 17:50 (thirteen years ago) link


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