San Francisco and what to do in it

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if anybody is into heavy drone rock / space rock my buddy is putting on an EXPO 70 show on november 4th at the red devil lounge (shitty venue, he works the door there). i will be flying up from SD for the occasion, will buy you a round if you come.

more details sooner

er i mean more details later

and yeah, sorry about the venue, it's really the pits

xxp - Expo 70 is also playing a house show in Oakland on the 5th

is it that they don't want any vendors in the park? or is it that they're angry that they weren't consulted about WHICH vendors would get to operate?

i got an email from someone who is on the anti-vendor side of things, and it seems like one of their arguments against Blue Bottle is that they are "based in Oakland" and thus not local .... uh?

Dear concerned citizens of San Francisco, do you realize how much of your workforce lives outside of your fair city and how many of your local businesses have facilities outside of San Francisco - because your city is geographically small and super expensive?

Oh really? Thanks!

it's just kinda dumb - like SF seems to take every opportunity to convert industrial warehouse buildings to luxury lofts, condos, retail or tear them down and build sports stadiums.

I'm a major proponent of SF-Alameda County cooperation and <3

yeah cuz that never happens in Oakland, Temescal, Lake Merritt, and Emeryville!

we just have a lot more of those types of buildings, and more area, in general. And yeah, Oakland has definitely done this, though Temescal and Lake Merritt aren't good examples. West Oakland and Jack London Sq are better examples. There isn't much left of the former Produce District.

I'm not saying that it's better or worse - but I just think it's unrealistic of the SF people who are complaining about Blue Bottle having facilities in Oakland as not being "local" - considering these pragmatic factors.

maybe their point is that six of those "artisinal/post-stumptown/coffee 3.0" type businesses within a mile of dolores park are more apt candidates i guess?

maybe - but do they have the infrastructure/capacity to do concessions in the park? Do they want to?

Did they even apply?

you'd think Philz would want in on it

fuck it, i am going to do a fig on a plate cart. $8p.

i dunno - the email didn't address the contracting process - which, from my experience with government contracting and related stuff, could very well have been done poorly.

Philz is great - one of my friends works there.

"fuck it, i am going to do a fig on a plate cart. $8p."

You stole that idea!

I think it's weird that Blue Bottle wouldn't be considered local when most of their coffee retail establishments are in SF and I'm pretty sure the principle owner lives here as well. It's not like they are incorporated in Delaware or anything.

can I just say FUCK YOU AIR FORCE

lol - is it Blue Angels time again?

twice in the last 5 minutes, yes.

geez - couldn't the blue angels have the same week as Oracle?

i will be flying up from SD for the occasion, will buy you a round if you come.

― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, October 5, 2010 5:07 PM

are u in SD now?? how is it?

btw i just assume that all the anti-cart agitation is being stirred up by operatives of the Bi-Rite/Dolores Park Cafe/Delfina/Faye's operatives.

seriously there is real money at stake for the 18th Street Gang and there needs to be a fair opportunity for everyone to submit proposals on a public contract but to focus ire on the vendors is, like, everything that's wrong with "activism".

totally down for shasta figs tho

oops - that second "operatives" shd obviously be "cabal"

yes! Faye's coffee rules. Plus most people in Dolores Park could use a little exercise and could use a little block and a half jaunt.

Tartine's coffee is also great btw.

xp - i wonder if "could use a little exercise" is BART and MUNI's rationale for service cuts and all around mediocrity

There was a mother and her infant on my train home yesterday and the kid started to cry and wouldn't stop. At one point I turned to one of the other passangers and said, "MUNI makes me feel that way a lot, too."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8Q87qZYIQM

whoah

engine blew up or something? Doesn't look intentional from that video

My friend's FB status:

"Holy crap! A car just blew up in front of our office! On fire now and we being evacuated."

saw that cloud of smoke from the ferry building but couldn't figure out where it was coming from when i walked back up market an hour later.
i like how the horn won't quit...

welp

http://blogs.sfweekly.com/foodie/2010/10/blue_bottle_kills_plans_for_ca.php

ridiculous

do these people not understand that the Parks department IS BROKE

http://roastlog.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/hammer.jpg

Hammer knows what's up, keep that east bay crap where it belongs.

xpost we had to destroy that park in order to save it

I didn't realize that the money from these leases would go into the city's general fund rather than Dolores Park or Park & Rec. If that's true it is kind of lame.

Tartine's coffee is also great btw.

― Fartbritz Sootzveti (Steve Shasta), Thursday, October 7, 2010 8:29 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark

annie and i were talking yesterday about this, and i think i concluded that tartine does the best job with four barrel coffee, and is probably my favorite coffee in the mission. i think it's like this for me, among the places i ever go for coffee:

tartine > ritual > atlas > dynamo > grand > little spot.

oakland's modern coffee (my every-morning spot) is pretty great, too. probably runnin even w atlas in the above ranking.

<3 tartine, but they do a better job with four barrel coffee than four barrel does?

only time i had four barrel at four barrel, i was like ehh. but that was just once.

Four Barrel does a great job with Four Barrel coffee, but I always get americanos there so maybe they do a less good job with their press/drips.

Dynamo Donuts does the best job with Dynamo Donuts.</controversial statement>

Four Barrel is also my favorite space out of all of these places.

Admittedly there is no space at Tartine or Ritual so that kind bias it in their favor.

xxxp fair enough.

i like how they clearly spent $$$ to renovate and have the ridiculous affectation of leaving the previous tenant's half-broken sign in place, making it look like an empty storefront from half a block away.

On a related, but not really, topic: the Blue Bottle @ the Mint is maybe one of the worst organized up establishments I have even been to. The line takes forever and for no good reason as far as I can tell.

coffee is for the weak

hammer looks like sisqo

MissionRat says:

I personally am glad that we can go to the Summit to enjoy Blue Bottle and keep Dolores Park beautiful and a commercial free zone. There are plenty of brick and mortar spaces that are empty and need renters. I personally am glad that I get to continue doing yoga every morning like I have for the past 5 years in the park without interruption and long lines surrounding me. If James Freeman needs to come out looking like the "good guy" then so be it.
Posted On: Tuesday, Oct. 19 2010 @ 5:02PM