"White Horse" by Laid Back - what is this song about?

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Great song.

Mark (MarkR), Sunday, 6 November 2005 04:18 (eighteen years ago) link


Uhhhhhh.
....

duke of marlboro (mickeygraft), Sunday, 6 November 2005 04:29 (eighteen years ago) link

White Horse= Heroin
White Pony= Cocaine

Joel Nickelson (aquabahn), Sunday, 6 November 2005 04:35 (eighteen years ago) link

there was a smokin house remix of this track but i can't find it...someone want to break it out?

biz, Sunday, 6 November 2005 04:38 (eighteen years ago) link

so Laid Back were endorsing coke, then? That totally fucks with my reading of the song.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Sunday, 6 November 2005 04:45 (eighteen years ago) link

I never questioned that theory.

footlog, Sunday, 6 November 2005 06:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Isnt this a parliament song. that Laidbach covered?

danny boy, Sunday, 6 November 2005 11:05 (eighteen years ago) link

i really liked the monifah song that sampled this.

m bott, Sunday, 6 November 2005 23:14 (eighteen years ago) link

i really liked the monifah song that sampled this.

MIND = BLWON

jesus, I've heard both of these songs countless times and I somehow never made the connection. No wonder I like the Monifah song so much.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Sunday, 6 November 2005 23:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Goldfrapp is pro-white horse riding.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 7 November 2005 00:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Does anyone have anything else by Laid Back? It's kinda hard to find, right?

Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Monday, 7 November 2005 01:19 (eighteen years ago) link

i have two copies of the 'keep smiling!' LP (the one with 'white horse'), and it's not very good. i haven't seen any CDs, but their records are easy enough to find.

one time gaffled 'em up (one time gaffled 'em up), Monday, 7 November 2005 01:26 (eighteen years ago) link

the trenteroller remix of laidback's "beautiful day" got me curious of their other stuff. nothing nearly as interesting as "white horse," though...

cutty (mcutt), Monday, 7 November 2005 01:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Actually, Laid Back stuff is pretty easy to find cheap used... the thing is, nobody cares for the other stuff besides "White Horse" because the rest sucks ass. "White Horse" is a B-side to a completely abysmal single "Sunshine Reggae".. The album isn't any better.

iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Monday, 7 November 2005 01:35 (eighteen years ago) link

"Bakerman" is really good.

jed_ (jed), Monday, 7 November 2005 01:35 (eighteen years ago) link

"White Horse" is essentially the band's "Erotic City" -- except without any other good songs or a career.

iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Monday, 7 November 2005 01:36 (eighteen years ago) link

"Bakerman" is really good.

jed_ (jed), Monday, 7 November 2005 01:50 (eighteen years ago) link

there was a smokin house remix of this track but i can't find it...someone want to break it out?

This one?
Wonderland - White Horse (Mike Monday mix):
http://s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3EHCKG1PWB52F1OHSDW1VTM9IB

+, Monday, 7 November 2005 02:00 (eighteen years ago) link

thankyou - in a weird piece of synchronicity 2 people asked me this yesterday after hearing it on a tape in the car!!!!!!
i got the answer right btw but i thought good smack was brown??

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Monday, 7 November 2005 04:10 (eighteen years ago) link

I've got "High Society Girl" on an old cassette somewhere, taped from German radio in 1984. It's utter shit though. I remember seeing them interviewed on Formel Eins (?) when "Sunshine Reggae" was #1 in Germany...

"So, Laidback. Is that your philosophy of life?"
"Yeah, we try to be cool and relaxed in everything we do..."
(etc etc)

I think they looked a bit like Black Lace.

"Sunshine Reggae" was SUCH a huge holiday hit 1983 that it even inspired a spin-off movie, Sunshine Reggae auf Ibiza, probably slung together in two weeks flat, featuring all your top bangin' Ibiza choons such as Ryan Paris "La Dolce Vita" etc.

Laibach missed the boat with that one, I reckon.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 7 November 2005 11:01 (eighteen years ago) link

The song "White Horse" is written after the guys of Laid Back had lost a close friend to an OD heroin. The song is according to the composers an anti song - strongly suggesting NOT to use drugs. "The white pony" does not mean cocaine or any other drugs. It is just a word play of something to do, which is opposite of taking heroine.

Oliver Man, Sunday, 13 November 2005 05:22 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
Hey ya'll I hate to burst your bubble, but I believe "white Horse" is refering to Heroin...Which also goes by the name of White Horse...just alittle drug info for ya all...Still a Kickin' song!!!

m herdman, Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:19 (eighteen years ago) link

YOU'VE RUINED MY LIFE. THE APOCALYPSE NOW BEGINS!

http://www.eborg3.com/Graphics/Bible/66-Revelation/Rev06/White%20Horse3.jpg

dali madison's nut (donut), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:00 (eighteen years ago) link

behold a white horse

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:03 (eighteen years ago) link

TS - White Horse vs. Erotic City

PappaWheelie B.C., Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:33 (eighteen years ago) link

I need a freak
with long, long hair
I need a superfreak
and will need her to be there

dali madison's nut (donut), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:06 (eighteen years ago) link

freaks with long long hair are so much better than white horses, or indeed "white horse".

turboalbino (haitch), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 00:39 (eighteen years ago) link

did sexual harassment ever do anything other than that?

turboalbino (haitch), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 00:41 (eighteen years ago) link

sexual harassment put out an entire record! They didn't need to though. If I Gave You A Party was a hit with the downtown set, or it wasn't and I think it was because Gomma bootlegged it on the Anti-NY compilation. There's another song called "Excersise Your Ass Off" which is pretty self-explanatory, what else? K-I-S-S-I-N-G. Party's my fave by far though.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 00:48 (eighteen years ago) link

they also did a 12" called 'we want prince' but it's probably best forgotten.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 00:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I liked the SH song "Sexual Connection"... if we're talking about that six-track mini-LP. But yeah, "I Need A Freak" could have been their one hit wonder, and it all would have been the same level of Classic!-ness.

On the flip, Mtume's Juicy Fruit album is completely underrated. That entire album is great.

dali madison's nut (donut), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 01:09 (eighteen years ago) link

sorry, one release, not "one hit wonder".

dali madison's nut (donut), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 01:10 (eighteen years ago) link

they also did a 12" called 'we want prince' but it's probably best forgotten.

wow, nice one drawing attention to what you're blatantly ripping off!

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 01:17 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.uvmc.com/services/sports_medicine_icon.gif

X Janis (X Janis), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 07:49 (eighteen years ago) link

So you thought that the song was about equestrian prowess? No...it is about drugs! They are suggesting Coke over Heroin...Which is the better choice? Neither frankly, but still a rockin song...that is all that matters.

CJ, Monday, 5 December 2005 01:31 (eighteen years ago) link

So you thought that the song was about equestrian prowess? No...It is about drugs! They are suggesting Coke over Heroin...Which is the better choice? Neither frankly, but still a rockin song...that is all that matters. Only the weak minded are actually pushed to drug use. Those of us who have accepted the possibility of the experimentation and mind expansion of such are the only ones who use such substances with enough self discipline to avoid the obvious addictive effects. Addition is for the weak minded and those who don't have more than a high-school education and wait tables at Denny's.

CJ, Monday, 5 December 2005 01:35 (eighteen years ago) link

I know someone who's gonna wait a loooooong time at Denny's for their "Addition" (it does make sense in French).

blunt (blunt), Monday, 5 December 2005 12:17 (eighteen years ago) link

People I can recall sampling this include Black Lodge, Dannii Minogue and the Black Eyed Pees.

BARMS, Monday, 5 December 2005 13:23 (eighteen years ago) link

All the time I was dancing to this in the NCO clubs while I was in the Army in my 20's, I thought this song was about promoting white girls' dating black guys. My oops. That's how naive I am about drugs.

Jessemina Wilhousen, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Guys, it's about the capital city of the Yukon Territory.

dali madison's nut (donut), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:54 (eighteen years ago) link

I recently heard a song released by the Black-Eyed Peas titled "My Humps" The music reminded me so much of a song my band did back in the 1980's "I Need a Freak" so I decided to investagate if there was a connection. Much to my suprise it was written by David Payton aka Lynn Tolliver. Lynn Tolliver is the creator of Sexual Harassment. If any of you own an actual copy the the Sexual Harassment EP (the cover has a picture of two women, one is pulling the other one's hair) you'll see my name on the back cover. I'm Dale Jackson drummer and vocals for the band. I had no idea how popular we had become and now I see that our music is being re-released.

Dan Selzer - How in the world did you come across the 12 "We want Prince" we only made a few copies - that one is rare!

Sexual Harassment Releases:
1. I Need a Freak EP - Heat Records (Distributed by Montage Records)
2. I Need A Freak 12" - Heat Records (Distributed by Montage Records)
3. K.I.S.S.I.N.G 12" - Heat Records (Distributed by Montage Records)
4. We Want Prince 12" - Heat Records
5. These Are The Things That I Like 12" - Future Entertainment Records

Dale Jackson, Tuesday, 20 December 2005 05:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Dale, assuming you're legit (please no offense if you are, but it's hard to tell these days with rampant anonymity/faking on the net and all), I just played "I Need A Freak" a few weeks ago to a dancefloor in Vancouver.. the song has always been above the radar but recently has been getting rediscovered. If that is your voice, it did the job damn well. :)

dali madison's nut (donut), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 17:36 (eighteen years ago) link

It gets played a lot in Montreal, too.

Jay Watts III (jaywatts), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 17:55 (eighteen years ago) link

it gets played a lot everywhere. it's a bona fide classic. good work dale!

stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 20:05 (eighteen years ago) link

In fact, a definitive Sexual Harrassment reissue might be just what the world needs.

*hoping to seed minds of people in a position to make this happen*

dali madison's nut (donut), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 20:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Ellen Margulies sat in a cloistered room, trying to see if the flower would bloom, tasted the sweet pollen and opened her eyes, rode the White Pony.

Jay Watts III (jaywatts), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 21:20 (eighteen years ago) link

wow!

hey-it was stirmonster who has the We Want Prince 12", I'd never heard about it and was just joking about how ballsy it is to name a song after an influence like that! I knew Lynn Tolliver was involved because another member of this community, Lauren, found that out somehow, and being from Cleveland, was familiar with him as a Cleveland radio personality of some sort? Had no idea he was behind a Black Eyed Peas song though!

And I know I Need a Freak is classic, but I'm still all about If I Gave You A Party.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 21:27 (eighteen years ago) link

"I need a freak" is on the Andrew Weatherall fabric mix cd.
Presumably you're aware of that Dale.

Bn1 (Bn1), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 22:31 (eighteen years ago) link

I love I need a freak but if I gave you a party is one of the best EVER. So sweet.

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 00:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes, Dali I'm legit and no offense taken. I currently live in a surburb of Cleveland, Ohio. Tynn Tolliver is the lead voice that you hear on record. When we performed live I would do the lead parts because he did want to get onstage. We all did vocals on the EP and 12" records. Thanks for your support! - Keep Sexual Harassment Alive!!!!

The group began with Lourdes Figueroa (A latina hottie who later became Mrs. Lynn Tolliver) and Myself. We later became a multi-ethnic band with a little something for everybody. Sexy, Hot and Horney - Good concept..It worked!

I have a couple of the origional radio commericals that aired back then. The audio quality is very poor because they were recorded on cassette tape. I'll try to clean them up and provide a link.

Dale Jackson, Wednesday, 21 December 2005 02:25 (eighteen years ago) link

if i can have that song
-- Majid, Sunday, April 30, 2006 12:19 AM (1 year ago)

am0n, Thursday, 27 September 2007 16:18 (sixteen years ago) link

my version has "now that we've found love (what're we gonna do)" on the flip!

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 27 September 2007 16:20 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

best song evar

Graduate of the Fantasia Barrino Instatoot of Fine Literature (The Brainwasher), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 04:29 (fifteen years ago) link

yet another classic my mom was into before I was when this thang hit

and how (PappaWheelie V), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 04:32 (fifteen years ago) link

That thing never gets old.

u s steel, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 05:21 (fifteen years ago) link

I remember when that song came out and my friends and I were scared out of our wits.

u s steel, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 05:24 (fifteen years ago) link

I remember, in fourth grade, a kid in our class brought the 12" of this in for show and tell. The teacher let him play it on the class turntable, but I don't think we even made it halfway through before it getting yanked for being "inappropriate". I'm not sure that I've heard it more than twice since then.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 05:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Was it the drugs part or the "rich / bitch" that was so incriminating?

u s steel, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 05:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Fly Away/Walking In The Sunshine's first few seconds are also v nice

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 11:34 (fifteen years ago) link

it was probably how unbelievably nasty the beat is - there's something obviously inappropriate about the song from the very beginning

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 13:11 (fifteen years ago) link

The teacher was growing more and more uncomfortable as the song played, but yeah, I think it was the "bitch" that finally pushed it over the edge.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 13:44 (fifteen years ago) link

The blasts of distorted guitar/synth-thing in "White Horse" are quite underrated and unique. One of the more underrated passages of the song is that one time the distorted guitars hit a drone and sustain for several bars early on in the song, and let the weird flute melody putter on over it.

Then in a weird tempo change, the distorted guitar/synth-thing releases, and "IF YOU WANNA RIIIDE".

Extremely subtle, beautiful, different. Even moreso than the rare accented 7-beat counts in Blondie's "Heart Of Glass" bridge -- which is also brilliant.

System Jr. (Mackro Mackro), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 18:12 (fifteen years ago) link

i would write a 45 RPM series book on "White Horse"

System Jr. (Mackro Mackro), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 18:21 (fifteen years ago) link

sub "weird tempo change" to "weird beat count" (probably due to editing the song on tape, most likely)

/staktrekman

System Jr. (Mackro Mackro), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 18:23 (fifteen years ago) link

all djs are aware of that little hurdle, as well as the hurdle near the end when everything drops out besides a percussive "BAH-BSSH BA-BSSSH BA-BSSSH BA-BSSSH" which if you've already starting mixing a track in will fuck yo shit right up

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 18:26 (fifteen years ago) link

The 12" version has another such hurdled in an extended "BAH-BSSH BA-BSSSH BA-BSSSH BA-BSSSH" part that's not on the 4-beat before going back to the "RICH?... you bitch" refrain.

System Jr. (Mackro Mackro), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 18:43 (fifteen years ago) link

AH, we were talking about the same thing, never mind. Yeah, the song ends in a single cold BAH-BSSH too, but at that point, the quick fade-in will have to do.

System Jr. (Mackro Mackro), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 18:45 (fifteen years ago) link

four months pass...

any chance of the remix?

admrl, Friday, 26 June 2009 21:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Hey ya'll I hate to burst your bubble, but I believe "white Horse" is refering to Heroin...Which also goes by the name of White Horse...just alittle drug info for ya all...Still a Kickin' song!!!
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rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Friday, 26 June 2009 21:40 (fourteen years ago) link

pretty bad "Kickin'" song if u ask me

goole, Friday, 26 June 2009 21:44 (fourteen years ago) link

just alittle drug info

admrl, Friday, 26 June 2009 21:45 (fourteen years ago) link

This into "Erotic City" is a great 12ish minutes of dancing etc.

Eazy, Friday, 26 June 2009 21:45 (fourteen years ago) link

"This into "Erotic City" is a great 12ish minutes of dancing etc.

― Eazy"

i wonder how many times this has been done? i know many of my friends and i have done it at various house parties and the like. it almost seems way too obvious but it works every time.

pipecock, Saturday, 27 June 2009 14:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Best commercial ever?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OdEWFr9lO0

Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 28 June 2009 15:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Very funny.

Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 28 June 2009 15:57 (fourteen years ago) link

five months pass...

For anyones information the ORIGINAL VERSION was made by Grand Master Flash. If the song isn't a minimum of 5 minutes and 45 seconds, You probably have the wrong version. Happy Holidays!!!!!

Aceman80, Monday, 14 December 2009 12:18 (fourteen years ago) link

huh?

andrew m., Monday, 14 December 2009 15:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Aceman80: I think yr confusing thus with "White Lines"

Tannenbaum Schmidt, Monday, 14 December 2009 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...

baker man

max, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 13:45 (fourteen years ago) link

is baking bread

max, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 13:45 (fourteen years ago) link

four months pass...

Man, "Fly Away" is such a great tune.

village idiot (dog latin), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 08:38 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

They're back or something:

Danish duo Laid Back -- responsible for the massive, underground dance track "White Horse" that crossed over onto the American pop charts in 1983 -- have announced the forthcoming release of Cosyland on May 22nd, a collection of reworked old tracks, and lost recordings from the famed sessions that put them on the map.

But, of course, there's more to the Laid Back story. Back in the seventies, Tim Stahl and John Guldberg met in a band called The Starbox Band and soon found out that there was a special chemistry between them. They were always the ones left that kept on jamming when band rehearsals ended. After a disaster of a support gig for The Kinks in Copenhagen, people walked out on them... and the band split up. New technology then came: multi-track tape recorders, rhythm boxes and synthesizers, etc. In a backyard downtown Copenhagen, John had set up a small studio where they began jamming together and creating tape recordings. They soon realized that they had created a new sound, a new way of making music. The debut album Laid Back contained their first #1 hit “Maybe I'm Crazy,” and was released in 1981. The next single, “Sunshine Reggae”, was the summer hit of 1982 in Denmark. In the USA, the focus was however on another song, “White Horse”, which became a #1 Dance track and trendsetter with an influence that is still felt today. When their US record company told them “don't come, people think you are black”, Tim and John saw it as the biggest acknowledgement a musician could ever get and stayed away... and now today, “White Horse” is known for being a benchmark cornerstone of the electronic music-making in the Eighties, having been sampled over and over again and becoming a true classic.

Absolute rarities are unearthed on Cosyland, taken from original multi-track archive tapes. Recordings at the source of it all were done in 1981 with brand-new equipment such as a Roland TR-808 rhythm box, a SH-101, a Pro-One monophonic synthesizer and a GR-500 guitar controller-and-synth. Relevant tapes copied from analogue to digital have just an added drumbeat, bass and vocal ahead of mixes. All recordings were improvised for their own pleasure while experimenting with a new technology. Besides, they were mere newcomers and beginners in this context, not knowing to later end up defining a new type of trademark sound. It is something of an archaeology excavation trip, so welcome aboard on a journey to Cosyland.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:07 (twelve years ago) link

YES PLEASE

Mo Money Mo Johnston (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:09 (twelve years ago) link

baker man

max, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:13 (twelve years ago) link

is baking bread

max, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:13 (twelve years ago) link

they sent this one around as a promo a while back

the beat is pretty good, i'm not into the vocals

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r95ub7GSm5k

dmr, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:20 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hwz5-MNLTY

^ not terrible

Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 23:22 (twelve years ago) link

it was inevitable that "White Horse" is too classic for them to repeat, but i like this other stuff in its own ways

Mo Money Mo Johnston (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 23:27 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0fnZiYXz9w

loved this for years before discovering it was a massive 'White Horse' sample

Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 23:50 (twelve years ago) link

It was pointed out to me a couple weeks ago that the skydiving video for "Baker Man" was directed by... Lars von Trier

an elk hunt (Ówen P.), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:04 (twelve years ago) link

wild. just watched that video for the first time today.

dmr, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:14 (twelve years ago) link

seven months pass...

Sakubona, unjani wena?

jed_, Saturday, 3 November 2012 01:08 (eleven years ago) link

two years pass...

White horse

j., Thursday, 6 November 2014 08:43 (nine years ago) link

ten months pass...

When their US record company told them “don't come, people think you are black”

Still can't get over how bad that sounds.

So, wait, that Deftones album title is about cocaine too? I thought they were chasing sales from the preteen girl demographic.

"White Horse" wasn't much of a hit outside the U.S.. "Bakerman" I first heard on Dom Joly's vanity album, but until now I'd never seen the video... it's fantastic. In five minutes, Lars von Trier makes up for his entire film career.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JAFppD_cGY

flyingtrain (sbahnhof), Tuesday, 15 September 2015 06:53 (eight years ago) link

Wow, here I've been lurking for years, thinking no thread I started ever went anywhere. I remember now!

But wait -- White Horse uses an 808? Did I misread that? And I always thought I Need A Freak was a Too $hort original. Wonder if he actually got rights or if that was a bootleg cover.

viborg, Tuesday, 15 September 2015 09:49 (eight years ago) link

brilliant band. bakerman, white horse, fly away - most bands can only dream of three distinct hits of that quality.

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 15 September 2015 09:51 (eight years ago) link

cocaine cool also had a revival in Denmark few years back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r95ub7GSm5k

niels, Tuesday, 15 September 2015 11:08 (eight years ago) link

Here's the Gandalf TBS commercial (with "White Horse")

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTkja0ojTYs

flyingtrain (sbahnhof), Saturday, 19 September 2015 07:33 (eight years ago) link

two years pass...

Nine degrees last night. Perfect evening for some super warm Danish bros. Bonus: Pittsburgh Penguin's own Phil Kessel on drums! Ba ba baaaa ba!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGV3GKZYwW4

andrew m., Tuesday, 2 January 2018 15:41 (six years ago) link


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