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Dana Carvey has struggled with some very serious health problems for years. He had a heart defect which was operated on, the operation was botched badly, and he was caught up in major medical and legal issues for years. Just sayin' - him vanishing from showbiz wasn't entirely his fault.

She Got the Shakes, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 08:59 (thirteen years ago) link

I thought this episode was on average much better than the previous week's (though I will love "What Up with That" for all time). I groaned when I heard that Kristin Wiig was all over the episode, but thankfully she didn't dominate. In the Password sketch, she was overshadowed by Lynch's Phyllis Diller impression. (Speaking of which, any theories on why they used the name Peggy Zellers instead of Phyllis Diller?) And the Gilly sketch was really a Glee send-up in which Gilly just made a brief appearance.

jaymc, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 12:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Speaking of which, any theories on why they used the name Peggy Zellers instead of Phyllis Diller?

because it was loads funnier to make a character loosely based on Phyllis Diller but had her own unique set of character traits. it's why the Simpsons create the Happy Little Elves instead of just calling them the Smurfs. Also it's why movies like Scary Movie 3 are for retards

i love you but i've chosen markers (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 12:45 (thirteen years ago) link

but had her own unique set of character traits.

She did? Seems like p. much the entire character was based on Diller, from the outfit (cigarette holder, feathery neckpiece, big teased hair) to the screechy voice to the jokes about her flat chest and poor cooking.

jaymc, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 12:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Probably my favorite SNL impression is Armisen as David Paterson (although that's starting to wear thin), and it bears very little resemblance to the actual dude, i.e. he doesn't talk like that, he doesn't have a vendetta against NEW JERSEY. It's basically a character named "David Paterson," loosely based on the real-life person.

― jaymc, Wednesday, April 21, 2010 10:45 AM (5 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

having a feeling u don't know how this show works

i love you but i've chosen markers (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 12:57 (thirteen years ago) link

? Not sure what point you're trying to make...

jaymc, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 13:06 (thirteen years ago) link

watching an ep from 2000 and will ferrell is on as "texas governor george w. bush, addressing his supporters in south carolina."

parnell as mccain!!!

some droopy HOOS in makeup (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 21 October 2010 22:33 (thirteen years ago) link

fiona apple as musical guest is rippin it!

some droopy HOOS in makeup (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 21 October 2010 22:45 (thirteen years ago) link

the episode that was on vh1 the other day was juliana margolis & dmx!!

truly blunted rhyme fiend (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 21 October 2010 22:47 (thirteen years ago) link

I wish some the '87-'91 shows turned up in rerun now and then. I miss almost every single one of those old Lovitz characters.

"ACT-ING!"

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 21 October 2010 22:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Annoying Man was the best.

'wich house (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 21 October 2010 22:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Annoying Man was pretty much deej's posting style if it was a human

'wich house (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 21 October 2010 22:54 (thirteen years ago) link

haha!

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 21 October 2010 22:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh man, here's Phil Hartman breaking character, which almost never happened.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLyJ4QMj-5M

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 21 October 2010 22:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Dana Carvey has struggled with some very serious health problems for years. He had a heart defect which was operated on, the operation was botched badly, and he was caught up in major medical and legal issues for years. Just sayin' - him vanishing from showbiz wasn't entirely his fault.

― She Got the Shakes, Tuesday, October 12, 2010 4:59 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is true, but those health issues started in '97, after the failure of The Dana Carvey Show and Clean Slate, and he's always said that he wanted to focus more on raising his kids than on his career, so I don't think he'd be a ubiquitous star if not for that. that said Dana totally WAS as huge draw during his time on SNL, if we're talking about popularity of cast members as cast members and not their movie careers after SNL.

Long live smooth music..... ;) (some dude), Thursday, 21 October 2010 23:14 (thirteen years ago) link

TS: The Love Guru vs. The Master of Disguise

macaroni rascal (polyphonic), Thursday, 21 October 2010 23:14 (thirteen years ago) link

The Dana Carvey Show was so fucking good

'wich house (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 21 October 2010 23:15 (thirteen years ago) link

I think it was in that oral history, but i read somewhere that another castmember asked Hartman why he broke up as Frankenstein, and he told them that he recovered from his initial break quickly (pro that he is) but then he thought about the absurdity of Frankenstein cracking up, and THAT is what made him totally lose it.

da croupier, Thursday, 21 October 2010 23:20 (thirteen years ago) link

dana carvey show was pretty great but not as great as you might think considering that writing staff. i know bill hader has wanted to stay away from being an 'impressions' guy (even though he's ridiculously good at it) cuz of carvey's post snl career. how far along are they w/ complete seasons? did they just do the original not ready for prime time players? that original cast's shows were incredible and i know everyone thinks whichever snl they watched when they were 14 is the best era but that late 80s/early 90s snl really does seem like the best era to me.

balls, Thursday, 21 October 2010 23:23 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm still sad about him no longer being here, and it was 12 years ago. I loved that guy. xp

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 21 October 2010 23:24 (thirteen years ago) link

i really loved the "bad boys" era, but i was 14 so.

'wich house (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 21 October 2010 23:26 (thirteen years ago) link

I saw it a few times during the Eddie Murphy/Joe Piscopo era when I was really young (8 or 9), but yeah. By the time Hartman, Lovitz, Jan Hooks, Dana Carvey, Nora Dunn, et al were on the show, I was about 14 and it really does seem like the show's golden era.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 21 October 2010 23:28 (thirteen years ago) link

everyone thinks whichever snl they watched when they were 14 is the best era but that late 80s/early 90s snl really does seem like the best era to me.

miller on the desk, hartman/dunn/hooks/lovitz/carvey in the front...myers/rock/sandler/farley/spade actually trying to prove themselves, definitely my favorite time. When I was 14-15 I thought the show on-air was total shit, struggled to get through sketches while excitedly waiting for REM to perform 3 songs from Monster, I think that was the same year Mark McKinney, Janeane Garofalo and Chris Elliott were all just kinda wasted while the fratties ran amok waiting for their next movie deal.

da croupier, Thursday, 21 October 2010 23:31 (thirteen years ago) link

that season was totally underrated imo

'wich house (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 21 October 2010 23:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Ironically I wonder if the current cast would benefit from a little ambition, seems like they all would be happy making youtubes and getting supporting roles in films, real pragmatic folks never really trying to knock us on our ass.

da croupier, Thursday, 21 October 2010 23:33 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.hulu.com/watch/4155/saturday-night-live-massive-head-wound-harry

still a fave

balls, Thursday, 21 October 2010 23:34 (thirteen years ago) link

chris elliott interviewing Jeff "Diarrhea Head" Daniels was classic for all time

'wich house (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 21 October 2010 23:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Poor Ellen Cleghorne, forgotten by time.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 21 October 2010 23:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Whiney, have you read Jay Mohr's SNL memoir? Pretty fascinating little apocrypha to the oral history, dude bitches about Ellen Cleghorne and keeps talking about how his Chris Walken imitation didn't get enough play

xpost!

da croupier, Thursday, 21 October 2010 23:36 (thirteen years ago) link

pretty fascinating if you give a rats ass about that pre-ferrell/post-carvey SNL period, I mean

da croupier, Thursday, 21 October 2010 23:37 (thirteen years ago) link

been meaning to. i know the story about how his one sketch that made it to air was totally ripped a sketch off of a Rick Shapiro stand-up bit

'wich house (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 21 October 2010 23:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Jay Mohr seems completely unlikeable in every way imaginable.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 21 October 2010 23:40 (thirteen years ago) link

that only helps make it readable, really!

http://photo.goodreads.com/books/1172683379l/206921.jpg

da croupier, Thursday, 21 October 2010 23:41 (thirteen years ago) link

i think that 94 season everyone bemoans had some great stuff but suffered from coming right after that peak and having such a disjointed cast, like a cross between the last ebersol year w/ all the ringers and the first lorne comeback year.

balls, Thursday, 21 October 2010 23:43 (thirteen years ago) link

admittedly I haven't seen it since I was anxiously anticipating the performance of "I Don't Sleep, I Dream"

da croupier, Thursday, 21 October 2010 23:44 (thirteen years ago) link

One of my favorite lines ever on the show was a Church Chat sketch where Phil Hartman was playing Jim Bakker and Jan Hooks played Tammy Faye (so best!) and she was going on about a dream she was having and it ended with "DEMONIC RAISINS I REBUKE YOU!"

It's hard to work that into everyday conversation, but I've managed once or twice.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 21 October 2010 23:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh wow, it somehow managed to stay on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw94TwKqH_c

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 21 October 2010 23:47 (thirteen years ago) link

waiting for REM to perform 3 songs from Monster

aw, that episode was my first exposure to both SNL and REM! and then i made my dad go to the Wherehouse so i could buy the CD!

later i did the same thing when i saw the Cranberries perform "Zombie" but that's a more embarrassing story.

christ a Journey medley (reddening), Thursday, 21 October 2010 23:48 (thirteen years ago) link

I always thought the '84-'85 season was underrated, despite it mainly being a castful of ringers (Billy Crystal, Martin Short, Harry Shearer, Christopher Guest). It had what was probably Eddie Murphy's crowning achievement:
http://www.hulu.com/watch/10356/saturday-night-live-white-like-me

Sterling-Kinney (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 22 October 2010 03:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Ellen Cleghorne was so great, wasn't she?

ksh ksh ksh ksh it ksh it (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 22 October 2010 03:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Def Comedy Jam <3

ksh ksh ksh ksh it ksh it (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 22 October 2010 03:58 (thirteen years ago) link

She was. I didn't even remember her having a WB show after she left SNL. Did anyone watch it?

Johnny Fever, Friday, 22 October 2010 03:59 (thirteen years ago) link

or whatever that sketch was (Def Surgery Jam?)

ksh ksh ksh ksh it ksh it (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 22 October 2010 04:01 (thirteen years ago) link

No no wait here it is: http://www.hulu.com/watch/2320/saturday-night-live-russell-simmons-def-magic-show

Wow that was, like, 10x funner when I was 13.

ksh ksh ksh ksh it ksh it (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 22 October 2010 04:15 (thirteen years ago) link

P.S. I stubmled across this and it happened to be one of the sketches da croupier v unfortunately had to tolerate to get to his beloved REM performances:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COIEj2v-nik

What the fuck is that shit?

ksh ksh ksh ksh it ksh it (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 22 October 2010 04:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I really hope they found a bunch of old munchkin outfits in a prop closet, and didn't actually have the crew sit around making an elaborate set with costumes so they could tell Janeane Garofalo to get lost for 3 minutes.

da croupier, Friday, 22 October 2010 14:53 (thirteen years ago) link

And based on the oral history, I wouldn't be surprised if that was the sole intent of the sketch

da croupier, Friday, 22 October 2010 14:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Ellen Cleghorne was so great, wasn't she?

The fact that Jay Mohr hated her now only makes her more awesome in my eyes.

romoing my damn eyes (Nicole), Friday, 22 October 2010 15:13 (thirteen years ago) link

thought this was the best ep since taylor swift last season tho i was kinda stoned so ymmv

johnny crunch, Sunday, 24 October 2010 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I think Nasim Pedrad is starting to become one of my favorite of the new(er) players. It's a shame Fred Armisen isn't dating her, or else she'd have been promoted to full cast status ahead of Abby Elliott.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 24 October 2010 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link


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