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Mathematica's licensing (unless it's changed recently) has been tied to particulars of the hardware. Some versions (back in 1996 or so) would require re-licensing if you merely upgraded a disk.

libcrypt, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 06:36 (fifteen years ago) link

akm, if you want to dally with MacFUSE, you might get R/W NTFS on OS X. Bit of a chance, but maybe it's stable.

libcrypt, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 06:37 (fifteen years ago) link

We also have some exciting and useful file systems for you to download, such as sshfs, procfs, SpotlightFS, AccessibilityFS, and YouTubeFS.

lol youtubefs

libcrypt, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 06:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah sorry, it's an MBP, and as for the one hand computer control, it's usually because of drinking/smoking/eating/doing some serious slouching.

I've gone through the two finger tricks, including the goatse style pull apart to change text size. I'm just pissed that there's three keys dedicated to volume when I would rather page/document navigation aids.

I'll have another go at the program installation stuff tonight. so after you've clicked on whatever's in the .dmg you 'eject' it?

S-, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 06:55 (fifteen years ago) link

and as for the one hand computer control, it's usually because of drinking/smoking/eating/doing some serious slouching.

^ is that your word for it?

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 07:07 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, macFUSE is probably too beta for me to be fucking around with, easier to leverage my work storage resources for my mp3 collection for a few hours.

akm, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 07:08 (fifteen years ago) link

I'll have another go at the program installation stuff tonight. so after you've clicked on whatever's in the .dmg you 'eject' it?

Just Apple (aka Command) key with backspace should do it. Maybe Apple-E (eject) works too. Can't remember.

Alba, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 07:09 (fifteen years ago) link

yeh, you must be right -- but there's absolutely no sign of cosmetic damage at all. and the fact that every other track is fine (or is it? perhaps there is other damage i'm not hearing) suggests the damage is intrinsic rather than physical, if that makes sense. i wonder if there was a fucked-up batch? actually ... it was a limited-edition pressing anyway ("the golden hour of the future", if anyone cares), so perhaps the whole lot were badly done somehow. (i know nothing about CD mastering and pressing.)

My copy did the exact same thing too, three years ago! Too funny. There was no apparent damage on the disc, and it was one track. I ended up getting it somehow but don't remember.

naus, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 07:17 (fifteen years ago) link

okay wait, so you just shift the executable file from the disc image into 'Applications' or where ever? that's it?

S-, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 08:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes, for most applications in OS that is the limit of installation required. (Applications in OS X are packages, effectively directories, and keep their junk within themselves maybe writing the occasional thing to the user or system libraries)

Ed, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 08:54 (fifteen years ago) link

that's kind of cool, doesn't make up for the fact that the little red button at the top doesn't actually close the application, just the window.

And the spaces/expose thing is very cool to look at, but takes longer to use (and so is kinda pointless eye candy) than good old alt-tab. oh okay there's command-tab.

Thanks Ed. Where does the crap all go then? I'm looking at the Macintosh HD directory and there's nothing obvious. What if I want to hard delete stuff, or hopefully I shouldn't have to on a Mac?

Can't wait 'til I get XP on this thing...

and a proper mouse/keyboard.

S-, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 08:57 (fifteen years ago) link

To uninstall an application just drag it to the trash, there may be a few user pref in ~/Library/Preferences or /Library/Preferences and some cache files but not much else. Leopard Cache Cleaner is a useful tool for de crapping these places.

I hate that in windows that the X closes the application and not the window.

Horses for courses i guess.

Will you be running XP in bootcamp or virtualised?

Ed, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 09:01 (fifteen years ago) link

um, the real way, from startup... bootcamp I suppose?

S-, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 09:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Don't discount Virtualisation (VMWare, Parallels) It is neat being able to copy paste between windows and Mac applications.

Ed, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 09:08 (fifteen years ago) link

is it possible (or make sense) to do both?

brute performance in XP is a consideration...

S-, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 09:13 (fifteen years ago) link

I have a separate bootable XP partition on my imac so that it run at full power, but I can also use that version of XP within parallels if I need to access some of it's software when I'm working in OSX.

treefell, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 09:22 (fifteen years ago) link

I hate that in windows that the X closes the application and not the window

hah, me too. mind, the more i use windows (boo for my fucking job), the more i find to hate.

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 10:26 (fifteen years ago) link

I've gone through the two finger tricks, including the goatse style pull apart to change text size. I'm just pissed that there's three keys dedicated to volume when I would rather page/document navigation aids.

Space and shift-space work for paging down and up in most web browsers and a lot of applications where you're not editing text (i.e. not Word, TextEdit, etc.).

caek, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 11:49 (fifteen years ago) link

And the spaces/expose thing is very cool to look at, but takes longer to use (and so is kinda pointless eye candy) than good old alt-tab. oh okay there's command-tab.

Yeah, it's mostly useless apart from in the rare occasion when you "lose" a window, which is perhaps more common on Mac because it doesn't encourage you to maximize all windows so they cover the entire screen. The only bit of it I use is F11 regularly (this might have moved on newer hardware), which quickly gets everything out of the way so that you can see the desktop. It's better than Windows-M on Windows because, when you release F11/press it again, everything goes back to how it was.

caek, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 11:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Sorry to wander into a Mac thread and talk Windows, but that's the difference between Windows+M and Windows+D: M minimises everything and won't put them back, D shows you your desktop and if you press it again it puts everything back (but don't restore anything individually first or it won't).

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 13:28 (fifteen years ago) link

ooh films now on the uk itunes store

DG, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 13:43 (fifteen years ago) link

wow i can rent hitman!

DG, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 13:45 (fifteen years ago) link

xxpost: I was not aware of that. Thanks.

caek, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 15:02 (fifteen years ago) link

i've just spent the last 50 minutes on the phone to my dad, who's tried to install the iWork trial on his shiny new iMac. it sounds *fucked*: running the "tour" hangs the machine spectacularly (seems to be a problem with keynote); nothing else seems to do very much. we've now got to the stage where software update is busy downloading new versions of all the apps. this is for a demo he downloaded, umm, yesterday.

way to go, apple! you fucking dickwads.

grimly fiendish, Friday, 6 June 2008 08:54 (fifteen years ago) link

it works now it's updated everything. which leads me to ask: why in the name of fuck would apple have software for download that immediately needs updating? WHY NOT JUST PUT UP THE LATEST VERSION?

tools.

perhaps my old man was just very unlucky with the timing. but i'm not sure.

telephone support is not fun.

what gets me here, though -- and it's not the first time i've thought this about apple -- is: what would my dad have done if he didn't have a minor-mac-geek son to call on, eh? phoned apple support? made a 200-mile round-trip to the nearest apple store? given up, pissed off? fuxxake, this is demo software for dudes who've just bought a mac. it shouldn't be in any way challenging. you can understand why, for a relative n00b, downloading something that then immediately wants to re-download itself would be a bit off-putting.

</rant>

grimly fiendish, Friday, 6 June 2008 09:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Wait, isn't the point of Apples that everything Just Works? So, um, wtf??

Autumn Almanac, Friday, 6 June 2008 09:37 (fifteen years ago) link

yes, MY POINT EXACTLY :(

grimly fiendish, Friday, 6 June 2008 10:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh, yes, I know, just gobsmacked.

Autumn Almanac, Friday, 6 June 2008 10:05 (fifteen years ago) link

shiny new macbook pro arrived this morning! only 72 hours from when i got on the phone with the corporate office ... and they sent me a penryn model for my santa rosa!

hopefully this one turns out not to have terrible hinge construction :-/

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 6 June 2008 17:43 (fifteen years ago) link

oh-man-do-i-have-a-problem. I-have-a-window-that's-stuck-open-on-my-desktop-and-whenever-i-hit-the-space-bar,-it-pops-to-the-front,-thus-this-wonderful-solution.-Is-it-some-quicklook-bug?-anybody-seen-this?

dan selzer, Sunday, 8 June 2008 17:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Kill the application that owns the stuck window?

libcrypt, Sunday, 8 June 2008 17:48 (fifteen years ago) link

my 2 year old macbook has started shutting itself off when the battery gets down to about 50%. it just shuts down completely black screen etc, and any attempts to restart stop before it can load up again. it doesnt happen when its plugged in to the mains, and when i press the button on the battery 2 dots light up, indicating that it still has 40+% charge. i've tried resetting the PRAM, run the hardware diagnostic but found nothing. anyone got any ideas?

zappi, Sunday, 8 June 2008 18:03 (fifteen years ago) link

There were some battery firmware updates a while back, it may be worth checking if those were applied.

Ed, Sunday, 8 June 2008 18:05 (fifteen years ago) link

oh yeh, i tried the new battery firmware. no change.

zappi, Sunday, 8 June 2008 18:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Sounds like an old, used-up battery to me. A heavily-used battery really doesn't last much longer than 2 years, if that.

libcrypt, Sunday, 8 June 2008 18:15 (fifteen years ago) link

i'm not so sure. i managed to get three and a bit out of mine (12" PB): i replaced it earlier this year. i was getting less than an hour of life out of it at full charge *but* it never displayed the wrong amount of life, as zappi's seems to be doing, and i always got the usual "you are now running on reserve power" sort of messages.

that said: i don't have a fucking clue what the problem *is*, right enough.

grimly fiendish, Sunday, 8 June 2008 19:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Myself, I have noticed similar behavior on my old batteries, though not quite as bad as zappi's. I mean, I replace it when there's less than an hour of battery time left on a full charge.

libcrypt, Sunday, 8 June 2008 19:17 (fifteen years ago) link

right now i'll put up with any apple shit after my pc spent most of today locked in a scandisk loop

DG, Sunday, 8 June 2008 19:22 (fifteen years ago) link

I hear a lot of "but aren't Macs just supposed to just work??? So why was there this failure? Aren't Macs perfect?" The truth of the matter is that they're just computers and susceptible to failure just as any other computer is, whether it's an HP SuperDome or a $300 eMachine. Macs fail sometimes. Do they fail less often than other computers? Yes, if Consumer Reports is to be believed. Is Applecare better than Dell support? Yes, according to CR. Is the Mac experience on the whole better than the PC experience? That's entirely subjective. Even if it is and you accept what I have to say, you will still have problems with Macs. It's inevitable.

(NB: I had a major PEBKAC yesterday: I got a super-powerful magnet too close to my lappy and it rendered the hard disk unreadable. The magic of Apple was unable to protect my lappy from user error, sadly. Hello, reinstall time.)

libcrypt, Sunday, 8 June 2008 19:28 (fifteen years ago) link

its kinda frustrating, i have used it quite heavily over the 2 years, but it seems to be a problem with the macbook sensing what is left in the battery. i get no warning messages before it shuts down btw. i guess i'll just keep using it on mains until i can save up the money for a new battery (£99!).

zappi, Sunday, 8 June 2008 19:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Kill the application that owns the stuck window?

it was the finder though! I closed everything out, ran some leopard cache cleaner stuff, restarted. Seems to be ok now.

dan selzer, Sunday, 8 June 2008 20:00 (fifteen years ago) link

I got a super-powerful magnet too close to my lappy

neodymium?

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 8 June 2008 20:12 (fifteen years ago) link

so this new macbook pro they sent me is quite nice, feels much sturdier than the last one, and it's nice that they sprung for an upgrade ... but now they sent me one with awful fan noise, as soon as it warms up to 40C it starts making this nasty BRRRRRRRRRRRR on the right-hand side. should i take it in or should i just give up?

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 8 June 2008 20:25 (fifteen years ago) link

lol dan why don't u just run os 9?

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Sunday, 8 June 2008 20:35 (fifteen years ago) link

neodymium?

Not sure. I have two, and they're each about the size of a stack of 4 half-dollars. I can put one on one side of my wrist and one on the other and they will stay on of their own accord.

libcrypt, Sunday, 8 June 2008 22:08 (fifteen years ago) link

so this new macbook pro they sent me is quite nice, feels much sturdier than the last one, and it's nice that they sprung for an upgrade ... but now they sent me one with awful fan noise, as soon as it warms up to 40C it starts making this nasty BRRRRRRRRRRRR on the right-hand side. should i take it in or should i just give up?

-- moonship journey to baja, Sunday, June 8, 2008 8:25 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

mine got much louder when i installed a faster HD. was worried that it would drive me crazy but i got used to it in like 3 days. i'm sure you will too.

s1ocki, Sunday, 8 June 2008 22:11 (fifteen years ago) link

when will they offer mbp with ssd

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Monday, 9 June 2008 15:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Just after you have given up hope and plumped for an HD.

Ed, Monday, 9 June 2008 15:45 (fifteen years ago) link

i really want os x on a umpc

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 15:30 (fifteen years ago) link

me too. I have seem it shoehorned onto a samsung Q1, but I would like apple to do it right.

Ed, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 15:31 (fifteen years ago) link


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