Wait, isn't the point of Apples that everything Just Works? So, um, wtf??
― Autumn Almanac, Friday, 6 June 2008 09:37 (fifteen years ago) link
yes, MY POINT EXACTLY :(
― grimly fiendish, Friday, 6 June 2008 10:03 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh, yes, I know, just gobsmacked.
― Autumn Almanac, Friday, 6 June 2008 10:05 (fifteen years ago) link
shiny new macbook pro arrived this morning! only 72 hours from when i got on the phone with the corporate office ... and they sent me a penryn model for my santa rosa!
hopefully this one turns out not to have terrible hinge construction :-/
― moonship journey to baja, Friday, 6 June 2008 17:43 (fifteen years ago) link
oh-man-do-i-have-a-problem. I-have-a-window-that's-stuck-open-on-my-desktop-and-whenever-i-hit-the-space-bar,-it-pops-to-the-front,-thus-this-wonderful-solution.-Is-it-some-quicklook-bug?-anybody-seen-this?
― dan selzer, Sunday, 8 June 2008 17:18 (fifteen years ago) link
Kill the application that owns the stuck window?
― libcrypt, Sunday, 8 June 2008 17:48 (fifteen years ago) link
my 2 year old macbook has started shutting itself off when the battery gets down to about 50%. it just shuts down completely black screen etc, and any attempts to restart stop before it can load up again. it doesnt happen when its plugged in to the mains, and when i press the button on the battery 2 dots light up, indicating that it still has 40+% charge. i've tried resetting the PRAM, run the hardware diagnostic but found nothing. anyone got any ideas?
― zappi, Sunday, 8 June 2008 18:03 (fifteen years ago) link
There were some battery firmware updates a while back, it may be worth checking if those were applied.
― Ed, Sunday, 8 June 2008 18:05 (fifteen years ago) link
oh yeh, i tried the new battery firmware. no change.
― zappi, Sunday, 8 June 2008 18:06 (fifteen years ago) link
Sounds like an old, used-up battery to me. A heavily-used battery really doesn't last much longer than 2 years, if that.
― libcrypt, Sunday, 8 June 2008 18:15 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm not so sure. i managed to get three and a bit out of mine (12" PB): i replaced it earlier this year. i was getting less than an hour of life out of it at full charge *but* it never displayed the wrong amount of life, as zappi's seems to be doing, and i always got the usual "you are now running on reserve power" sort of messages.
that said: i don't have a fucking clue what the problem *is*, right enough.
― grimly fiendish, Sunday, 8 June 2008 19:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Myself, I have noticed similar behavior on my old batteries, though not quite as bad as zappi's. I mean, I replace it when there's less than an hour of battery time left on a full charge.
― libcrypt, Sunday, 8 June 2008 19:17 (fifteen years ago) link
right now i'll put up with any apple shit after my pc spent most of today locked in a scandisk loop
― DG, Sunday, 8 June 2008 19:22 (fifteen years ago) link
I hear a lot of "but aren't Macs just supposed to just work??? So why was there this failure? Aren't Macs perfect?" The truth of the matter is that they're just computers and susceptible to failure just as any other computer is, whether it's an HP SuperDome or a $300 eMachine. Macs fail sometimes. Do they fail less often than other computers? Yes, if Consumer Reports is to be believed. Is Applecare better than Dell support? Yes, according to CR. Is the Mac experience on the whole better than the PC experience? That's entirely subjective. Even if it is and you accept what I have to say, you will still have problems with Macs. It's inevitable.
(NB: I had a major PEBKAC yesterday: I got a super-powerful magnet too close to my lappy and it rendered the hard disk unreadable. The magic of Apple was unable to protect my lappy from user error, sadly. Hello, reinstall time.)
― libcrypt, Sunday, 8 June 2008 19:28 (fifteen years ago) link
its kinda frustrating, i have used it quite heavily over the 2 years, but it seems to be a problem with the macbook sensing what is left in the battery. i get no warning messages before it shuts down btw. i guess i'll just keep using it on mains until i can save up the money for a new battery (£99!).
― zappi, Sunday, 8 June 2008 19:43 (fifteen years ago) link
it was the finder though! I closed everything out, ran some leopard cache cleaner stuff, restarted. Seems to be ok now.
― dan selzer, Sunday, 8 June 2008 20:00 (fifteen years ago) link
I got a super-powerful magnet too close to my lappy
neodymium?
― moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 8 June 2008 20:12 (fifteen years ago) link
so this new macbook pro they sent me is quite nice, feels much sturdier than the last one, and it's nice that they sprung for an upgrade ... but now they sent me one with awful fan noise, as soon as it warms up to 40C it starts making this nasty BRRRRRRRRRRRR on the right-hand side. should i take it in or should i just give up?
― moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 8 June 2008 20:25 (fifteen years ago) link
lol dan why don't u just run os 9?
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Sunday, 8 June 2008 20:35 (fifteen years ago) link
Not sure. I have two, and they're each about the size of a stack of 4 half-dollars. I can put one on one side of my wrist and one on the other and they will stay on of their own accord.
― libcrypt, Sunday, 8 June 2008 22:08 (fifteen years ago) link
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mine got much louder when i installed a faster HD. was worried that it would drive me crazy but i got used to it in like 3 days. i'm sure you will too.
― s1ocki, Sunday, 8 June 2008 22:11 (fifteen years ago) link
when will they offer mbp with ssd
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Monday, 9 June 2008 15:44 (fifteen years ago) link
Just after you have given up hope and plumped for an HD.
― Ed, Monday, 9 June 2008 15:45 (fifteen years ago) link
i really want os x on a umpc
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 15:30 (fifteen years ago) link
me too. I have seem it shoehorned onto a samsung Q1, but I would like apple to do it right.
― Ed, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 15:31 (fifteen years ago) link
I think a lot of those machines lack SSE3 which sux to emulate with SSE2.
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 15:38 (fifteen years ago) link
does Atom have SSE3?
― Ed, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 15:40 (fifteen years ago) link
Yes.
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 15:44 (fifteen years ago) link
very interesting.
― Ed, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 15:45 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/asus-eee-pc-901-priced-reviewed/
^ asus eee w/ atom
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Sunday, 15 June 2008 22:27 (fifteen years ago) link
keep wondering where i can buy an 'acer aspie'
― DG, Sunday, 15 June 2008 23:00 (fifteen years ago) link
So my 4 year old beer damaged powerbook is finally starting to give up the ghost by making a "click of death" and not booting (making the ? folder). Any folk remedies for this that could get me a last few days to get my synth patches off of it?
Also, what is most $able solution to dispose of near dead pb?
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Monday, 16 June 2008 00:09 (fifteen years ago) link
Target Disk can get the disk up on another system where booting up fails. Target disk to another system, copy off what you need then try and repair disk.
― Ed, Monday, 16 June 2008 07:03 (fifteen years ago) link
yea, target disk doesn't seem to start but I'll try again
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 20:46 (fifteen years ago) link
Ouch, that is pretty dead, USB enclosure for the disk to try and salvage the data?
― Ed, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 20:48 (fifteen years ago) link
I was wondering if there was some heating/cooling thing to do? this happened after leaving the laptop in a sweltering apartment a few weekends back
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 21:04 (fifteen years ago) link
I think I got screen burn of a dog's bum on my macbook LCD... wtf, I thought LCD's couldn't burn in??
― czn, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 08:40 (fifteen years ago) link
a dog's bum?
― grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 08:51 (fifteen years ago) link
not a porno thing
― czn, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 08:52 (fifteen years ago) link
screen burn of a dog's bum
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 09:33 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm sure you've heard this before, but folk remedy for repeating click of death on attempted access = extract disk, put it in the freezer (in a watertight bag, obv) overnight, then if it works get everything the hell off it ASAP because it's about to stop doing so again?
Supposedly if the click is the sound of the drive head overreaching the platter and clanking off the spindle, cold-induced contraction may tighten everything up enough to get an hour or so's use out of it.
Don't think I got round to trying it for my own clicking HD, though. One day it just felt like working for long enough to boot and be backed up, and then died again. (Not Apple, or a laptop.)
― a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 10:52 (fifteen years ago) link
boot from CD, run TechTool?
or
boot from CD, run "fsck -y" from command line?
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 10:59 (fifteen years ago) link
what is folk remedy for screen burn of a dog's bum?
― czn, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 12:06 (fifteen years ago) link
casnisarsewort
― Ed, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 12:09 (fifteen years ago) link
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2337/2525089926_4bcea24eb0.jpg ^
― czn, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 12:12 (fifteen years ago) link
OS 9 on Intel:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/onpc15
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 14:35 (fifteen years ago) link
So, is no one else's timemachine playing up after 10.5.3?
I'm either getting 'Latest backup: delayed' or 'Latest backup: failed'.
Re-setting the external hard-drive for Timemachine worked for a bit before the problem started all over again.
― Bob Six, Thursday, 19 June 2008 14:24 (fifteen years ago) link
That happened to me once or twice in the first few days but has been fine since.
― dan selzer, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:23 (fifteen years ago) link
an interesting set of musings about the increasing windows-ness of certain mac apps ... interesting to me, anyway, because we've just moved to windows at work and i'm suffering hellishly with the fact the "document-centric" approach means everything feels so bloody constrained.
that said: tabbed browsing? couldn't live without it. hmm.
― grimly fiendish, Saturday, 21 June 2008 16:06 (fifteen years ago) link
That guy, I feel his MDI pain, but to some extent, I think that more "MDI" is inevitable. With bigger and faster computers, you can run more and more apps at once with more documents, and so organizing the clutter becomes a real necessity. Mr. Mathis appears quite keen to deny (and is so bad at doing so) that developers who introduce MDI-ish features are blurring the line between the application-centric and the document-centric approaches more than they are joining the "Windows side": He complains about Safari's tabs, but fails to acknowledge that any tab can be broken out into its own "document" just by pulling on it, and vice-versa (try this if it hasn't occurred to you!) Likewise, he admits having to revise his criticisms of Adobe when confronted with their lax adherence to MDI in CS4: I'd wager that Adobe's approach will be as flexible as Apple's with Safari and more.
The criticisms in re: spaces/expose are valid to some extent, but come on, spaces is crap and basically nothing works "right" with it now anyways. With regard to expose, Apple could provide API hooks to break out "tabs" in expose, but that'd exacerbate the very problem tabs were designed to solve: Would you rather look at N applications when you hit F9 or N applications x M documents? My thinking is that the very reason a person puts a document in a background tab is because it's not important enough to be tiled in expose.
As long as MDI isn't the exclusive mode of presentation, I think that it has a lot to offer for the Mac platform, and really, I think that the distinction between application-centric and document-centric will eventually vanish on Mac.
― libcrypt, Saturday, 21 June 2008 17:15 (fifteen years ago) link