I HATE APPLE

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vahid i had the same problem and i freed up ~30gb so im at like 40 now. speed was noticeably improved but i still need to restart every 8 hours or so after it gets really slow--safari seems to be the worst esp when i have a lot of tabs open

max, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 03:03 (thirteen years ago) link

ive seriously spent the past 2hrs cleaning up my macbook to try and speed it up. are you pretty good with computers? if so, check out the Console.app in Applications/Utilities/ and google every weird lookin error in system.log

hælvæticæ (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 03:11 (thirteen years ago) link

also what do you have inside /Library/Internet Plug-Ins? apparently i had about 3yrs worth of terrible buggy 3rd party plugins mucking shit up

hælvæticæ (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 03:13 (thirteen years ago) link

check to see if you have any conflicts in your font book

dayo, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 03:35 (thirteen years ago) link

the occasional clean-up care/of Onyx and it's ilk doesn't hurt too much.

also there's some free preference cleaner apps.

Have as much free space as possible and turn off fonts and deal with font conflicts.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 03:50 (thirteen years ago) link

oh shit. how do i clean up my fonts? i know those are a mess, i had a really ridiculous linotype fontexplorer x system set up and one day i just abandoned it because i was so pissed at it. will just asking it to clean up the fonts fix it, or do i have to do something else?

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 04:43 (thirteen years ago) link

like mentioned above, look for duplicates. If you turn everything off in Fontexplorer then open Font Book, how many fonts are loaded? Are there any black dots?

Fontexplorer does a fine job and what it's for, but it won't save you from conflicts you may already have.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 05:06 (thirteen years ago) link

ok, i deactivated 1420-ish fonts down to 72 or so and turned the font requests back on. for some reason a lot of my documents seem to call for fonts they don't actually use?!? already running faster. now i need to get that 500 gig HD ...

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 05:13 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.fontgear.net/fontdoctor.html

am0n, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 05:15 (thirteen years ago) link

you had 1420 fonts active? well shit there is your answer.

akm, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 07:08 (thirteen years ago) link

hahah yeah that is definitely like "why does my car run slowly" "I forgot to mention I have a grand piano strapped to the roof at all times"

dayo, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 07:27 (thirteen years ago) link

I can't recommend those new Seagate Momentus XT drives enough. I threw one into my new-this-year MBP (that I admittedly stuck with the stock 5400rpm drive on) and it's like night and day. I mean, it's partially because the drive isn't spinning so slowly, but the 4GB of flash read cache is excellent.

mh, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 14:45 (thirteen years ago) link

got a barely one y.o. MBP and keep getting really long "beachball" freezes in iTunes. Is this normal.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 15:18 (thirteen years ago) link

is it reading mp3s from an external drive

am0n, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 15:24 (thirteen years ago) link

nope - huge library but all saved on the internal drive. The freeze seems to occur at very random moments too, not when searching or playing songs.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 15:30 (thirteen years ago) link

check to see if there are any repeating errors on Console.app

hælvæticæ (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 15:49 (thirteen years ago) link

My 500GB HD shows up tonight. What is the easiest way to take my current HD image and get it onto the new drive?

schwantz, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 16:01 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.shirt-pocket.com/SuperDuper/

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 16:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Cool. So I guess I just need an external SATA to USB/FW case, and I should be good o go. I don't have to boot up from a CD or anything, right?

schwantz, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 16:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, get a case, put the drive in it, plug it in to your computer, let SuperDuper copy your current drive to the new one, then swap drives and boot up.

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link

I can't recommend those new Seagate Momentus XT drives enough. I threw one into my new-this-year MBP (that I admittedly stuck with the stock 5400rpm drive on) and it's like night and day. I mean, it's partially because the drive isn't spinning so slowly, but the 4GB of flash read cache is excellent.

...is that kinda like addin 4gb of RAM?

BIG MUFFIN (gbx), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:28 (thirteen years ago) link

it's really like 1000% better

now i'm going to delete like 30 GB of roleplaying and comic book scans that i never look at

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:49 (thirteen years ago) link

baaderonix are you using a ton of smart playlists? if you are, turn off live updating

cozen, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:33 (thirteen years ago) link

It's not really like adding ram at all, it's like a halfassed SSD attempt that is really economical! Basically, the drive itself does all the caching of blocks (not files) that are often read. So your most often used 4GB of data is read at SSD speed, and the rest is read at a decent 7200rpm, I believe.

mh, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:15 (thirteen years ago) link

85. hashtags are the new changeable DNs of olde ilx #

It's not really like adding ram at all, it's like a halfassed SSD attempt that is really economical! Basically, the drive itself does all the caching of blocks (not files) that are often read. So your most often used 4GB of data is read at SSD speed, and the rest is read at a decent 7200rpm, I believe.

ohhhhh. neat! how many dolla

BIG MUFFIN (gbx), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Ta da!

Like a hundo.

mh, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:18 (thirteen years ago) link

wow, one last bump in performance to eke out of my old pwerbook perhaps?

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:31 (thirteen years ago) link

hard drive is not the bottleneck in a powerbook

caek, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link

:(

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:36 (thirteen years ago) link

an faster but less transparent alternative, btw, if you can live with the mental overhead of two partitions/drives is to move the OS and apps to one of these http://www.amazon.com/FileMate-PCI-Express-card-Retail/dp/B001QSZDJ8/ref=pd_sim_e_1.

caek, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:36 (thirteen years ago) link

what pb do you have?

caek, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:37 (thirteen years ago) link

with the 13" MBP does it come stocked w/2x2GB RAM or 1x4GB?

cozen, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:40 (thirteen years ago) link

I already know the answer don't I :'(

cozen, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:41 (thirteen years ago) link

2x2 apparently (sez system profiler)

former moderator, please give generously (DG), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:42 (thirteen years ago) link

bummer

cozen, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:43 (thirteen years ago) link

that 48 GB SSD seems like a great idea

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link

bad idea if you use your expresscard slot for anything else, but http://onethingwell.org/post/977670277/go-ssd

caek, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link

that seems like a really great idea. faster than new MBPs? deal.

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:38 (thirteen years ago) link

i have a 15 inch PB G4, 1.5GHz, 2GB RAM

interesting idea about the SSD card; i definitely never use that slot

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link

is 2gb the maximum ram on those? i would start there (along with some hard drive tidying if things seem slower than they used to be). but yeah, i'd def be thinking about the expresscard thing if i expected to keep this mbp. would be slightly concerned it would complicate backups and day to day use having two partitions. gonna sell this and get an macbook air and walk the effin earth though.

caek, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:57 (thirteen years ago) link

yes it is the max. maybe i shouldn't bother with the expresscard if as you say my HD isn't the bottleneck though.

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:07 (thirteen years ago) link

nothing's really slower than it used to be, apps are just bigger and less efficient with every release.

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:08 (thirteen years ago) link

i HATE apple

my hard drive just died, again, for no reason and out of nowhere. went out for a run and left a cd importing LIKE I ALWAYS DO, came back, screen frozen, computer wouldn't turn back on. tried those weird combinations of keys you press with the start button, none of them worked, one of them made it make an alarming beep and brought up the flashing file/question mark of doom, plus it's making weird clicking noises, so i assume the BARELY FOUR-MONTH-OLD hard drive has died FOR NO REASON WHATSOEVER. why? why why whyyyyyyyyyy is this? two months out of my warranty, too.

i could totally deal with hard drive failure if it was the result of some stupid thing i did or even a virus, but OUT OF THE BLUE AND FOR NO REASON - i can't deal with that at all. i don't want to hear about how computers "just do" this otherwise i will actually get a hammer and smash every computer i come across until i am actually sectioned. this is so fucking inconvenient this week as well.

i actually think i have a spare HD - from the last time, BARELY FOUR MONTHS AGO, when my computer gave me shit, and the utter cunts at the so-called "genius" "bar" misdiagnosed the problem like three times, replacing my HD when it turned out they needed to replace the fan. i don't think i know how to replace HDs though.

i guess it'd be foolish to hope that the HD hasn't died? i would really like to not have lost various documents (obv not backed up, duh, also stfu).

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:20 (thirteen years ago) link

oh that sucks

lol @ (obv not backed up, duh, also stfu) tho

lol tea partiers and their fat fingers (HI DERE), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:24 (thirteen years ago) link

clicking sound = probably hard drive death. sorry man.

using a hard drive is like parking on the hard shoulder.

xp to tracer: 2GB is ok - my old mb ran on that and it was solid. i was expecting less when you said "pb". since you can't change the g4, expresscard is certainly worth a shot. order one from amazon uk, see if it has any effect and if not then send it back. google around first though and check you can do this with pbs. maybe booting issues for older machines but dunno.

caek, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:27 (thirteen years ago) link

well the thing with backing up is that of course one does it periodically but not EVERY TIME one changes a document or makes a new one

oh god there are a bunch of interviews on that computer that i could really really do with not losing

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link

this doesn't help but if this is true of stuff you change regularly and can't afford to lose or recreate: "well the thing with backing up is that of course one does it periodically but not EVERY TIME one changes a document or makes a new one" you need to change the way you backup. dropbox.

caek, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:29 (thirteen years ago) link

or time machine.

caek, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:31 (thirteen years ago) link

clicking sound = probably hard drive death

but it's only FOUR MONTHS OLD. i mean, i believe you, but it's basically brand new and i actually go out of my way not to bother it - i run the bare minimum of basic applications, no fancy downloads or plug-ins or whatever, i never take risks with downloading anything, i always shut it down completely at night, the HD wasn't anywhere near full, so...whyyyyyyyyyyyyyy? if it's totally random and can happen even to a brand new HD, what's the point in taking all that care in the first place? and why can't we get HDs that don't do this?

xp i kept meaning to investigate dropbox, as well as a couple of other options i was told about, but never got round to it :(

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:32 (thirteen years ago) link

i had time machine on that computer but couldn't understand how to get it to work :(

i probably really need to know how best to back up an external HD (which is where all my music is) - is there an online solution for that much data? rather than the unwieldy/expensive route of another external HD?

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:33 (thirteen years ago) link


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