why don't you join the neil kulkarni beef parade xp
― acoleuthic, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:30 (thirteen years ago) link
too many cooks, LJ, too many cooks
― sarahel, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:31 (thirteen years ago) link
neil kulkarni beef parade
Either a band name or a blog title.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:31 (thirteen years ago) link
or a COGH thread that only KBP posts to
― sarahel, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:32 (thirteen years ago) link
the quietus : the new look : NAG
― O Let's Group Doueh (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:33 (thirteen years ago) link
suzy says her editor says that their tights are better than Chanel
― sarahel, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:36 (thirteen years ago) link
"Neil Kulkarni Beef Parade"? Look, I was young, I needed the work, I was assured it would only be released in South America.
― Neil Kulkarni, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:43 (thirteen years ago) link
there was a band called the Iowa Beef Experience. They were like the Cows...of Iowa.
http://www.amazon.com/Personalien/dp/B000QR35FY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dmusic&qid=1265758148&sr=8-1-catcorr
― S Beez Wit the Remedy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:44 (thirteen years ago) link
or a COGH thread that only KBP posts to― sarahel, Wednesday, October 27, 2010 7:32 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
― sarahel, Wednesday, October 27, 2010 7:32 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
oh snap
― make em say ukhh (history mayne), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:07 (thirteen years ago) link
aren't they all?
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:07 (thirteen years ago) link
Is NAG, Norway's Nihilist Assault Group? (NAG's MySpace)
or
NAG, the National Association of Gals, the charming name Rush Limbaugh has for NOW, the National Association of Women?
I don't know what Nagl or iirc mean either.
― Duran (Doran), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:15 (thirteen years ago) link
if I recall correctly it means not a good look
― mr. mandelbrot flythrough vertigo, esq. (Edward III), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:18 (thirteen years ago) link
unless you're being faux naive in which case fu
i love how however many years of tuomas has sensitized posters here to faux-naivete
― avoyoungdro's number (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:20 (thirteen years ago) link
what do you mean by that, kevin?
― sarahel, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:21 (thirteen years ago) link
what's a tuomas? is it like radiation?
― mr. mandelbrot flythrough vertigo, esq. (Edward III), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:24 (thirteen years ago) link
Edward III: When it's a matter of message board ettiquette, it's better to presume I don't know what I'm talking about.
― Duran (Doran), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:25 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.premiere.fr/var/premiere/storage/images/diaporama/un-flic-a-la-maternelle/un-flic-a-la-maternelle-kindergarten-cop-1990__5/1873235-1-fre-FR/un_flic_a_la_maternelle_kindergarten_cop_1990_reference.jpg
it's not a tuomas
― O Let's Group Doueh (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:25 (thirteen years ago) link
tuomor!!!!
― sarahel, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:26 (thirteen years ago) link
anyway man i don't have the energy to muster another hip hip clusterfuck.
"Hip hip --" "Clusterfuck!"
― boxes of mint aeros I have eaten in a week (sic), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:40 (thirteen years ago) link
what the fuck is that double hyphen
― acoleuthic, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link
it's an australian thing, you wouldn't understand
― dronestorm (electricsound), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:43 (thirteen years ago) link
sincerely regret posting my drunken (and distinctly mean-spirited) "thoughts" in this awful thread. my apologies.
― naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:50 (thirteen years ago) link
it's very unilx to apologize for your misdeeds, sb'd you for that
― mr. mandelbrot flythrough vertigo, esq. (Edward III), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 23:25 (thirteen years ago) link
What is this thread again?
― village idiot (dog latin), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 23:51 (thirteen years ago) link
"rap criticism," butthurtedness, copy editing
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 23:53 (thirteen years ago) link
great, it's dog latin
― jrue (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 23:57 (thirteen years ago) link
lol EIII
― naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Thursday, 28 October 2010 00:36 (thirteen years ago) link
Doran, some real talk from across the pond. I'm very psyched on this feature
http://thequietus.com/articles/06869-portishead-bakers-dozen
But I'm not psyched to click through 14 things to read it.
― delmar dillinger (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:07 (twelve years ago) link
tell me about it.
besides that's only 2/3rds of portishead and i'd kinda be more interested in hearing beth's than the two fellas.
― jed_, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:17 (twelve years ago) link
Eh that's nothing, this one in Fact today is 30 pages long!
http://www.factmag.com/2011/08/30/30-albums-you-can-still-look-forward-to-in-2011/
― Geirge Hongriot (NickB), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:19 (twelve years ago) link
With like a line of text for each album
― Number None, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:20 (twelve years ago) link
I wonder what Adrian Utley's 50 favorite sneakers are
― delmar dillinger (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:22 (twelve years ago) link
Dudes,
We do this like once a month. Come on, fucking cut me some slack - I have to pay my rent. We don't do advertorial like most of the other sites, we don't do skins or band take overs or have massively intrusive campaigns. Or take money of petrol and car companies and all that stuff.
If you don't want to click a button 13 times don't do it but don't be giving me grief like you have to face the two stone guardians one who always lies and another who always tells the truth before casting the ring into Mount Doom to find out.
And Jed - since when has Beth Gibbons ever done press? It's like complaining about us not getting a JD Salinger interview.
We beg, we plead, we fucking wheedle with all these people to let us interview them properly but some - for whatever reason - won't, they insist on doing it themselves. And then, despite the fact that we've asked for a minimum of 200 words on each record, they come back, like one nonesensical sentence. And do you know why? Because the request will go through a bare minimum of two other people before it gets to the band and I have no idea whether my full message gets passed on or not.
At the end of the day though, I'm still pathetically grateful. We've run about three really lengthy, in depth features on Portishead on the site, and you could just go and read those instead if you wanted - I just wanted to do something different this time.
Speaking personally there were two albums on the list that I've never heard of and I'm going to check out.
You know, if I was less of a man, I'd say fuck the lot of you to everyone who has depressed more than 13 keys to whinge here on a public forum.
But I am a big man. And I have nothing but love for all of you.
I will try as I do every day, to make my site better. Just for you four.
― Death To False Camp (Doran), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:49 (twelve years ago) link
I was actually talking about the FACT list but thanks!
― Number None, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:51 (twelve years ago) link
Ha ha. Ok, sorry. I'm sat dandling my son listening to Val Doonican. I'm actually in a very good mood.
With love baby. With love.
― Death To False Camp (Doran), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:53 (twelve years ago) link
Doran, sorry man, i know these things can be tough to arrange. keep on doing it and i'll shut up. although i would be more interested in the beth's choices just saying that, i've read and seen her interviewed although much less frequently than the other two and even when she is to say that she plays her cards close to her chest would be a huge understatement. all the best.
― jed_, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:56 (twelve years ago) link
Well, I'd attempt to be first in line to interview her if the chance ever arose but it's very much unlikely unfortunately.
I think the main focus of the group not doing interviews is actually quite good from the band's POV - creates mystery and desire - but not so good from my POV unfortunately.
― Death To False Camp (Doran), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:59 (twelve years ago) link
And yeah, she's not Thomas Pyncheon but there again we're not MOJO or Rolling Stone either and just wouldn't get any time with her.
― Death To False Camp (Doran), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:00 (twelve years ago) link
Doran we've had a few convos about site design like this before (especially on the rap threads since sites like Complex tend to be the worst offenders with clickthroughs on their rap listicles) -- i'm just reposting something i said on the matter once as food for thought, not to argue with you because honestly it is nice to at least have someone from a site that trades in this practice defend it in somewhat understandable terms:
borkslovethewu (some dude) wrote this on thread DJ QUIK - THE BOOK OF DAVID - 2010 on board I Love Music on Apr 10, 2011
like if you want people to consume your work in a way that financially benefits you, then there's kind of a social contract that demands you not be too obnoxious about making them jump through extra hoops to get it
― lil dawg (some dude), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:05 (twelve years ago) link
Doran, having run a site very similar to yours in America, I can def empathize with artists coming back with short or terse answers to questions or requests. You shouldn't be faulted for that, and anyone who blames you for not talking to Beth Gibbons is an entitled idiot.
However, honestly, pushing some nickel-and-dime clickthough scam over the readability of your website is just straight clowning your readers, it makes US do the work.
It was a very cool article, though, and I was happy to read it. Sorry if I'm bumming you out. :/
― delmar dillinger (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:11 (twelve years ago) link
im surprised you guys are selling ads on clicks and not uniques!
― max, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:23 (twelve years ago) link
Whiney and all: Well it's a fair cop. When we get someone like Chino Moreno or Morrissey telling us his 13 favourite albums it can really give us some breathing space to not have to hit targets with extra reviews and mad news stories or competitions that keep us in the office past midnight or whatever.
We know that you lot are in the right as regards to the letter of the law but we'd like to see it as a very, very minor transgression. Ideally we won't always do stuff as a click through but for now, once in a while we don't mind.
We're in the middle of saving to get the site redesigned, which will make the gallery feature a lot nicer. Basically it works on thumbnails but it's better than that makes it sound.
I mean, after all we did our first end of year lists as a click through gallery and we deserved the bollocking we got for that. It was bloody chicanery, pure and simple.
My bottom line is that we're obviously on a different side of the fence from all the click fodder music sites like Clash and Artrocker or whatever.
That said, if this is GENUINELY becoming some kind of ideological thing then I will think about stopping doing it sooner rather than later.
No one's bumming me today. I'm full of coffee and the joys of late Summer.
Max: Our advertising - which is the bane of my life - is always in a state of flux and we sell on a number of different ways. None of them are click throughs per se but some of them are done on page impressions instead of unique users.
― Death To False Camp (Doran), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:34 (twelve years ago) link
bet that's the first time anyone's ever used the phrase "someone like Chino Moreno or Morrissey"
― lil dawg (some dude), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:41 (twelve years ago) link
I'll bet Iron Maiden have said it to their manager recently: "What's all this about Metallica and Lou Reed... We should do this... Can't you get us someone like..."
― Death To False Camp (Doran), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:44 (twelve years ago) link
POWERSMITH
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:37 (twelve years ago) link
this thing abt a 'social contract' still seems weird to me. if you dont like it, dont read it
― D-40, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:37 (twelve years ago) link
Doran - love Thequietus, really appreciate the balance between my old punk/post-punk faves and new artists. I'd gladly spend some dosh to support the site, why don't you offer up some compilation CDs or something?
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:40 (twelve years ago) link
Cheers dude! Much appreciated.
We're actually going to do a thing with limited run vinyl next year but we've got to wait until we can do a really good job of it.
We'd love to do an annual or a quarterly but again, we'd only do it if we could put out something really well produced.
― Death To False Camp (Doran), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link
'Girlfriend In A Medieval Torture Instrument'
― Death To False Camp (Doran), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:33 (twelve years ago) link