I HATE APPLE

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I hear a lot of "but aren't Macs just supposed to just work??? So why was there this failure? Aren't Macs perfect?" The truth of the matter is that they're just computers and susceptible to failure just as any other computer is, whether it's an HP SuperDome or a $300 eMachine. Macs fail sometimes. Do they fail less often than other computers? Yes, if Consumer Reports is to be believed. Is Applecare better than Dell support? Yes, according to CR. Is the Mac experience on the whole better than the PC experience? That's entirely subjective. Even if it is and you accept what I have to say, you will still have problems with Macs. It's inevitable.

(NB: I had a major PEBKAC yesterday: I got a super-powerful magnet too close to my lappy and it rendered the hard disk unreadable. The magic of Apple was unable to protect my lappy from user error, sadly. Hello, reinstall time.)

libcrypt, Sunday, 8 June 2008 19:28 (fifteen years ago) link

its kinda frustrating, i have used it quite heavily over the 2 years, but it seems to be a problem with the macbook sensing what is left in the battery. i get no warning messages before it shuts down btw. i guess i'll just keep using it on mains until i can save up the money for a new battery (£99!).

zappi, Sunday, 8 June 2008 19:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Kill the application that owns the stuck window?

it was the finder though! I closed everything out, ran some leopard cache cleaner stuff, restarted. Seems to be ok now.

dan selzer, Sunday, 8 June 2008 20:00 (fifteen years ago) link

I got a super-powerful magnet too close to my lappy

neodymium?

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 8 June 2008 20:12 (fifteen years ago) link

so this new macbook pro they sent me is quite nice, feels much sturdier than the last one, and it's nice that they sprung for an upgrade ... but now they sent me one with awful fan noise, as soon as it warms up to 40C it starts making this nasty BRRRRRRRRRRRR on the right-hand side. should i take it in or should i just give up?

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 8 June 2008 20:25 (fifteen years ago) link

lol dan why don't u just run os 9?

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Sunday, 8 June 2008 20:35 (fifteen years ago) link

neodymium?

Not sure. I have two, and they're each about the size of a stack of 4 half-dollars. I can put one on one side of my wrist and one on the other and they will stay on of their own accord.

libcrypt, Sunday, 8 June 2008 22:08 (fifteen years ago) link

so this new macbook pro they sent me is quite nice, feels much sturdier than the last one, and it's nice that they sprung for an upgrade ... but now they sent me one with awful fan noise, as soon as it warms up to 40C it starts making this nasty BRRRRRRRRRRRR on the right-hand side. should i take it in or should i just give up?

-- moonship journey to baja, Sunday, June 8, 2008 8:25 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

mine got much louder when i installed a faster HD. was worried that it would drive me crazy but i got used to it in like 3 days. i'm sure you will too.

s1ocki, Sunday, 8 June 2008 22:11 (fifteen years ago) link

when will they offer mbp with ssd

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Monday, 9 June 2008 15:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Just after you have given up hope and plumped for an HD.

Ed, Monday, 9 June 2008 15:45 (fifteen years ago) link

i really want os x on a umpc

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 15:30 (fifteen years ago) link

me too. I have seem it shoehorned onto a samsung Q1, but I would like apple to do it right.

Ed, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 15:31 (fifteen years ago) link

I think a lot of those machines lack SSE3 which sux to emulate with SSE2.

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 15:38 (fifteen years ago) link

does Atom have SSE3?

Ed, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 15:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes.

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 15:44 (fifteen years ago) link

very interesting.

Ed, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 15:45 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/asus-eee-pc-901-priced-reviewed/

^ asus eee w/ atom

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Sunday, 15 June 2008 22:27 (fifteen years ago) link

keep wondering where i can buy an 'acer aspie'

DG, Sunday, 15 June 2008 23:00 (fifteen years ago) link

So my 4 year old beer damaged powerbook is finally starting to give up the ghost by making a "click of death" and not booting (making the ? folder). Any folk remedies for this that could get me a last few days to get my synth patches off of it?

Also, what is most $able solution to dispose of near dead pb?

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Monday, 16 June 2008 00:09 (fifteen years ago) link

Target Disk can get the disk up on another system where booting up fails. Target disk to another system, copy off what you need then try and repair disk.

Ed, Monday, 16 June 2008 07:03 (fifteen years ago) link

yea, target disk doesn't seem to start but I'll try again

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 20:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Ouch, that is pretty dead, USB enclosure for the disk to try and salvage the data?

Ed, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 20:48 (fifteen years ago) link

I was wondering if there was some heating/cooling thing to do? this happened after leaving the laptop in a sweltering apartment a few weekends back

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 21:04 (fifteen years ago) link

I think I got screen burn of a dog's bum on my macbook LCD... wtf, I thought LCD's couldn't burn in??

czn, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 08:40 (fifteen years ago) link

a dog's bum?

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 08:51 (fifteen years ago) link

not a porno thing

czn, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 08:52 (fifteen years ago) link

screen burn of a dog's bum

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 09:33 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm sure you've heard this before, but folk remedy for repeating click of death on attempted access = extract disk, put it in the freezer (in a watertight bag, obv) overnight, then if it works get everything the hell off it ASAP because it's about to stop doing so again?

Supposedly if the click is the sound of the drive head overreaching the platter and clanking off the spindle, cold-induced contraction may tighten everything up enough to get an hour or so's use out of it.

Don't think I got round to trying it for my own clicking HD, though. One day it just felt like working for long enough to boot and be backed up, and then died again. (Not Apple, or a laptop.)

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 10:52 (fifteen years ago) link

boot from CD, run TechTool?

or

boot from CD, run "fsck -y" from command line?

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 10:59 (fifteen years ago) link

what is folk remedy for screen burn of a dog's bum?

czn, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 12:06 (fifteen years ago) link

casnisarsewort

Ed, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 12:09 (fifteen years ago) link

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2337/2525089926_4bcea24eb0.jpg
^

czn, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 12:12 (fifteen years ago) link

OS 9 on Intel:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/onpc15

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 14:35 (fifteen years ago) link

So, is no one else's timemachine playing up after 10.5.3?

I'm either getting 'Latest backup: delayed' or 'Latest backup: failed'.

Re-setting the external hard-drive for Timemachine worked for a bit before the problem started all over again.

Bob Six, Thursday, 19 June 2008 14:24 (fifteen years ago) link

That happened to me once or twice in the first few days but has been fine since.

dan selzer, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:23 (fifteen years ago) link

an interesting set of musings about the increasing windows-ness of certain mac apps ... interesting to me, anyway, because we've just moved to windows at work and i'm suffering hellishly with the fact the "document-centric" approach means everything feels so bloody constrained.

that said: tabbed browsing? couldn't live without it. hmm.

grimly fiendish, Saturday, 21 June 2008 16:06 (fifteen years ago) link

That guy, I feel his MDI pain, but to some extent, I think that more "MDI" is inevitable. With bigger and faster computers, you can run more and more apps at once with more documents, and so organizing the clutter becomes a real necessity. Mr. Mathis appears quite keen to deny (and is so bad at doing so) that developers who introduce MDI-ish features are blurring the line between the application-centric and the document-centric approaches more than they are joining the "Windows side": He complains about Safari's tabs, but fails to acknowledge that any tab can be broken out into its own "document" just by pulling on it, and vice-versa (try this if it hasn't occurred to you!) Likewise, he admits having to revise his criticisms of Adobe when confronted with their lax adherence to MDI in CS4: I'd wager that Adobe's approach will be as flexible as Apple's with Safari and more.

The criticisms in re: spaces/expose are valid to some extent, but come on, spaces is crap and basically nothing works "right" with it now anyways. With regard to expose, Apple could provide API hooks to break out "tabs" in expose, but that'd exacerbate the very problem tabs were designed to solve: Would you rather look at N applications when you hit F9 or N applications x M documents? My thinking is that the very reason a person puts a document in a background tab is because it's not important enough to be tiled in expose.

As long as MDI isn't the exclusive mode of presentation, I think that it has a lot to offer for the Mac platform, and really, I think that the distinction between application-centric and document-centric will eventually vanish on Mac.

libcrypt, Saturday, 21 June 2008 17:15 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm not so sure -- the menu bar mitigates against it. Though in the next few years more and more things are really going to be all in the browser, so it gets a bit moot.

I love MDI when I only have to deal with one window -- Safari, Textmate, any tabs really. I loathe it when I have fully-fledged windows pointlessly constrained inside other windows, as in Windows.

stet, Saturday, 21 June 2008 17:39 (fifteen years ago) link

yeh, i think that's the key. when i'm in -- say -- safari, i'm usually looking at one window and one window only. it's very rare i want to be able to flick my eyes between two different documents at once. and if i *do* want to do that, it is -- as libcrypt says -- easy.

but at work, i often want to have two indesign or incopy documents open next to each other at the same time, and be able to not just read them both but to cut and paste between them. the way i create the television pages for our paper, for instance, depends upon doing this with three documents open at once. on a mac, i can put these three windows wherever i want on the screen; on windows, they all have to live within the "application" window, which is a mammoth pain in the arse. yes, i can *do* it, but it's neither easy nor elegant.

but yes, libcrypt is right: the key thing is that the user has choice over how they want their windows displayed. and i do feel the mac offers me that, always. i'd be very surprised if adobe suddenly fucked that up with all their apps.

grimly fiendish, Saturday, 21 June 2008 18:17 (fifteen years ago) link

I loathe it when I have fully-fledged windows pointlessly constrained inside other windows, as in Windows.

This is powerful annoying, I agree. You've GOT to be able to break things out when necessary. That whole window-minimized-or-floating-inside-another-window bullshit is intolerable. However, I'd wager that Adobe will be picking up on the virtues of MDI and disregarding these flaws.

My curiosity is piqued tho, so I'm downloading a few betas from Adobe now to see what we're in for.

libcrypt, Saturday, 21 June 2008 18:29 (fifteen years ago) link

WHY ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT CS4 ALREADY!

Goddamn slow down Adobe! It took me long enough to get CS3 going.

dan selzer, Saturday, 21 June 2008 19:21 (fifteen years ago) link

possibly old:

<img src="http://blog.iso50.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/macbook-19821983-projektion-zur-zukunft-des-notebooks.jpg";>

czn, Saturday, 21 June 2008 19:27 (fifteen years ago) link

link? xpost

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Saturday, 21 June 2008 21:08 (fifteen years ago) link

http://blog.iso50.com/?p=1832

Ed, Saturday, 21 June 2008 21:11 (fifteen years ago) link

What Microsoft fails (or at least failed up to 2003; I've not used Office 2007) to understand is (a) that applications need to be CONSISTENT, especially if they form part of the one suite, and (b) how users use applications.

Today all I wanted to do was copy text out of one Excel spreadsheet and paste it into another. But no. It all HAS to exist in one parent window (Word doesn't behave like this btw), so I had to keep alt+tabbing between the spreadsheets. There is literally no reason for designing the application this way.

Apple gets users. It gets that people need to do simple things with an interface that requires a tiny bit of forethought. Apple puts that effort into doing the interface properly. Microsoft? No. Everything is tacked onto everything else like Blu-Tack, and eventually you're left with a hulking rancid cripple of a product like Office 2003.

This is coming from someone who's never, ever, done anything productive on a Mac, ever.

Autumn Almanac, Monday, 23 June 2008 08:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Excel for Mac is a pretty good app. As far as I'm concerned Excel is MS's best application, and the UI is probably better on Mac, although the Mac version has some serious database connectivity issues. Mac Office is not MDI, and while the MS MBU has gone to great lengths to avoid dirtying themselves with Cocoa, the Office suite is reasonably Mac-legit, although Excel is the only application I'd use if I weren't forced.

libcrypt, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 07:18 (fifteen years ago) link


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