henry rollins vs. hipsters

yeah, seems like he has the self-awareness to know he is being a dick and know that he is going to be a dick, but not the self-control to stop himself. the way he held onto Shirin Neshat's shoulders while she has this incredibly uncomfortable, apologetic look on her face made me squirm. (xpost)

rollins' imdb bio says he's 5' 9 1/2" but i think they're being generous by a couple inches.

weird conflation of rollins and whiney behavior itt

lol

I thought Rollins was being funny like dumb stereotypes about music isn't he some jazz wanker or something? How can you take him seriously he is clearly being sarcastic or have you never heard his spoken word. Not like some band called Sexual Aids is some high minded art band....

where do you guys rate doucheyness of rollins versus jose canseco (another dude who, if he had practiced the neil gaiman school of social graces, would not have made the excellent "I trolled jose canseco" thread possible)?

the way he held onto Shirin Neshat's shoulders while she has this incredibly uncomfortable, apologetic look on her face made me squirm.

The way he was parading her around, like she was an anti-hipster human shield or something... christ.

just the sanctimony of "this is Shirin Neshat, you should know who she is" is like...I mean...I am a sanctimonious fuckin guy, so if I notice your sanctimony, you're doing something wrong

Rollins came off more as insecure rather than douchey
That was a panic move

the 77 clique!!!!!!!!!!

i miss whiney already

omg totally know that girl in "Sexual Aids" - her name is Meredith

― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Wednesday, November 3, 2010 4:56 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

I know that lady too! But she's a punk and yer a hippie!

Rollins came off more as insecure rather than douchey
That was a panic move

This was my read, too.

also this is an unrelated story, but i met keith morris last week and repressed the urge to tell him that i loved black flag, that they were my favorite psych band. cuz that would make me a jerk.

seriously what else is there to talk about with Keith Morris besides how rad black flag was

how he takes a shit in public restrooms without his dreads touching the floor?

dread maintenance techniques, what it's like to work with legendary skin-beater (industry term for drums) MARIO RUBALCABA, among other things

fyi he was a really sweet nice guy

But at this point even saying ^^^^ that is soooo fucking played. Why is this shit even still going on?

yeah otm...this vid is like a sort of perfect encapsulation of hipster hatred, rollins ensuring that he feels sneered at from minute one. i don't get how he says "when that girl started mouthing off", like she seemed sort of nice, and actually how fucking awkward and weird was his introduction for the iranian girl, who prob would have liked to just chat to some hipsters?

plus you know, so what even if she was a trustafarian, rollins is hardly living in central park.

and the sort of "i'm kind of a big deal" bit at the end...god, what a fool.

Is he pals with Allison Wolfe (had to check spelling) or something? He was pointing out one of her bands at the beginning.

seriously what else is there to talk about with Keith Morris besides how rad black flag was

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Probably a lot, considering he was in Black Flag for about 15 minutes almost 35 years ago.

"'sup Keith! Hey wow the only reason I know you is from this thing you did for 15 minutes 35 years ago. So, um, whatcha been up to for the last 35 years anyway?"

seriously what else is there to talk about with Keith Morris besides how rad black flag was

His fantastic new band OFF!, how underrated the Circle Jerks' VI album was...lots of stuff.

Keith Morris is a (former?) ilxor's accountant!

Meredith runs in (former?) ilxor-affiliated band Excepter circles iirc.

Just connecting the dots here.

*palm*

I guess you guys follow Keith's activities a lot more closely than I do

*high five*

seriously though how does he keep his dreads from getting bathroom grime on them when he's taking a shit??

or does he not care??

is sexyDancer the dude from Excepter?

I know that lady too! But she's a punk and yer a hippie!

hippie?

i'm just teasin'

"group sex" by the circle jerks is at least as good as a lot of black flag stuff IMO

okay maybe she doesn't run in excepter circles so much as she was working at the venue where the show took place (Rockstar or Monkeytown).

not BRAGGIN 2010 but I met Keith M last month and he was just a swell dude, really pleasant to hang with

Probably a lot, considering he was in Black Flag for about 15 minutes almost 35 years ago.

also everyone that was in black flag is important. they are an important band, the last great american adventurers.

i don't even listen to black flag that much but they are really important to me, just the way they existed in the world

for realz^

am i missing something re: henry thinking shouting "get in the van"="mouthing off"? or is it just him being paranoid and primed for a confrontation?

probably equivalent of shouting "I drink your milkshake" to daniel day lewis. the gentlemanly thing to do is grin sheepishly and tip your hat, then go about your business, right? but wouldn't you rather have him suddenly walk up to you bug-eyed, shouting, "Drrraaaaaainaaage!" that's a story to take to the grave.

Henry would have been more irked if they hadn't recognized him.

So I guess that's Cake Shop in NYC, right?

― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 17:01 (Yesterday)

Yeah I recognized it too and was going to ask the same, so I assume that's what it is. I think the record section since closed though.

I feel like there was something edited out or Rollins is just a little paranoid. Also weird that he was so clearly trying to avoid the word "hipster" even before the confrontation.

rollins comes off as a sexist creep several different times in that clip--hard to do, tbh.

like, that many different ways in 5 minutes

I think I sort of understand what mentality he was trying to complain about but Whiney summed it up in the second post like 10x better than Rollins did, plus his whole preemptive strike freakout was just insecure and weird.

I mean I think there are a lot of young people who would have a slightly condescending take on any music of the past that seems directly, sincerely confrontational and/or political -- enjoying it on some level while being above it and above everything else. But I feel like Rollins doesn't even fully get how that operates and just has this "WHY YOU MAKIN FUN OF ME!" attitude -- pretty undignified and immature for a man his age.

re: sexism, I dunno, he was about as creepy in the nardwuar interview as well. are you sure it's not just general pomposity?

wow, Ms Neshat is 53 yrs old???

u mad u old [/story]

Of all the offensive display names I've seen over the years, I'm kinda surprised this is the one to ruffle so many feathers. Oh yeah, wait a minute, the offender isn't part of the 77 clique. That explains it all. I mean, come on, if Whiney or, say, deej, used that display name as a "joke" it wouldn't have been such an issue.

lol not at all, if any of the "77 clique" had used it i prob would've gone in on them even sooner - obv that exists and i shun it tbh

henry rollins is a big cutie and sweetheart in this youtube video

& yeah, the original whiney post otm