White Light/White Heat vs. Third (Sister Lovers)

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I kind of link Sister Ray together w/Can's Yoo Doo Right (probably not an accident) and that would be two of my favorite songs, both based on a basic riff beaten into submission over a very long time. It's actually a strategy that has a pretty good track record, given a good enough riff and a distinctive singer.

Yoo Doo Right has less-concrete lyrics, and nobody ever expected Can to go top 40, so it doesn't seem to get the same backlash that Sister Ray sometimes does. Anyway, I agree that Sister Ray is a towering musical acheivment, even if you ignore context, lyrics, etc.

I'm fond of Big Star's 3rd as well, though lately I'm even fonder of Chilton's solo stuff, where he basically invents Royal Trux. A poll putting Sister Ray up against Take Me Home and Make Me Like It would give me some trouble...

I'd go with I Heard Her Call My Name as being the weirdest song on WL/WH, not Sister Ray. Sister Ray is just long and loud. The way IHHCMN starts off, and the mix, are really bizarre even now.

dlp9001, Thursday, 4 November 2010 02:14 (thirteen years ago) link

VU's my favorite band, but WL/WH ain't better than SL. No way, no how. O Dana? Stroke It Noel? Kizza Me? Nightime? Thank You Friends? fucking HOLOCAUST? No contest. Had Chilton's Third been up against VU's 3rd however...

chromecassettes, Thursday, 4 November 2010 02:18 (thirteen years ago) link

wl/wh>radio city>big star 3rd>velvet underground>v.u.>velvet underground & nico>big star 1st>loaded

ridiculous crazy love for all the above, first two very strong always in the running for my fave alltime record

balls, Thursday, 4 November 2010 03:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Third by the Soft Machine over both of these

15-60-77 (S-), Thursday, 4 November 2010 03:40 (thirteen years ago) link

wl/wh>vu & nico>big star third>radio city>velvet underground>loaded>#1 record

it becomes clear to me that the last two I ranked should've been the poll...

only! assholes! write on doors! (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 4 November 2010 14:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Third by the Soft Machine over both of these

Bollocks.

"Sister Ray" is a lot more than just a loud + long rock and roll song.

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 November 2010 14:28 (thirteen years ago) link

third > wl/wh > #1 > velvet underground & nico > velvet underground > v.u.> loaded > radio city

surprised at general equation of both bands, to what extent is this inspired by recent revisiting of the chilton catalog? i'd have assumed the velvet underground were seen in another category really, but i'm pleased anyway

Adrian Roosevelt "Adie" Mike (nakhchivan), Thursday, 4 November 2010 14:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I started this poll because of the Reed vs. Chilton thread

only! assholes! write on doors! (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 4 November 2010 14:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 00:01 (thirteen years ago) link

"Third/Sister Lovers" is much better than the horrible "White Light/White Heat", yet not even close to being in the same league as "#1 Album".

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 10:42 (thirteen years ago) link

never change

Quesadilla Road Trip 2010 (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 14:38 (thirteen years ago) link

I think I'd vote for "White Light/White Heat" over all but maybe 15-20 albums

nicky lo-fi, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 20:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Thursday, 11 November 2010 00:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Third got a lot more votes than i expected. Deservedly

gospodin simmel, Thursday, 11 November 2010 00:10 (thirteen years ago) link

This poll came out weighted about exactly how I feel about those albums. 51:29 in favour of the Velvets.

a confident, off-duty spy (staggerlee), Thursday, 11 November 2010 03:18 (thirteen years ago) link


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