letz talk abt gucci mane

lol i'm just saying that you went from "there are boring parts" to "this is so boring" in the matter of like 90 seconds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a16NUb3WC-4&ob=av2e

this & coca coca >>>> anything on mr. zone 6

id say bp2 is def less consistent, but its not more boring

you're trolling now

does ferrari music count as a 'mixtape' of his -- isnt it just odds & ends comp

no im really being serious!!

im not the only one who thought mr zone 6 was underwhelming dude

does ferrari music count as a 'mixtape' of his -- isnt it just odds & ends comp

― deej, Wednesday, November 3, 2010 9:48 PM (9 seconds ago) Bookmark

what do you think burrprint 2 is?

i don't get how you can praise raw street shit off of 'burrprint 3d' & then turn around and call "cowards & soldiers" or "dats my life" or "stove music" 'boring', let alone more boring than "everybody lookin"

it was unreleased material released as an 'official mixtape' -- i thought ferrari music was mostly odds & ends that had leaked out on the other tapes & internet compiled together by a dj

all of those songs are at least as good as your beloved "frowney face"

i think it can be seen as a falloff year in that his output has been rel limited & inconsistent (burrprint 2hd & the appeal being the inconsistenc) but mr zone 6 & jewelry selection are totally continuing along the path of greatness of burrprint 3d & the movie 1

also as you yourself have said, he's best measured by the strength of his best individual tracks, which are just as strong and fresh & creative this year

'everybody looking' is not boring!!! its super weird & awesome & pop-y & queasy and one of his best tracks this year

man i typed that up and had to click "submit post" like nine times cause you guys go so fast

all of those songs are at least as good as your beloved "frowney face"

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, November 3, 2010 9:51 PM (30 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

not even close -- this is like saying the movie 2 >>> the movie

oh wait thats something else youve argued

i have to remember that you defended the keyshia cole & bobby valentino songs on 'state vs radric davis'

lol @ 'your beloved frowney face' -- his 1st verse on that hits harder than any verse off mr zone 6 bar none period -- post lyrics of a better one

the first verse of "cowards & soldiers"

don't make me stop burnin kush but start burnin your body parts

put tear drops underneath my eye cuz i wish some days i could cry / but to lose my self respect my n***a i would rather die

most of the time i was bumpin top authority
tell it to my nine cuz you pussy niggas borin me

this is like slam poetry now or something lol

i think stuff like "rooftop" is a better meeting of writing & weirdoness than grumble mumble stuff like "poltergeist"

or like, "normal" > "gross" as far as one-word repetition gucci songs go

man no way does this verse stand in the same universe as 'frowney face' -- a verse w/ college puns?? vs actually emotional autobiographical raps w/ statement of purpose -- not even fair

"dats my life" is as hard as anything on 'burrprint'

gross has a way better beat

than normal

college puns are lol and creative!

this is some interesting hair-splitting for someone who can't really distinguish the thousand shades of quality and nuance between most Gucci stuff and just gravitates to the obvious standouts. all i know is he hasn't really made any songs on the level of "Lemonade" or "Wasted" this year (although since "Lemonade" charted as a single this year it's definitely gonna be in my top 10)

'dats my life' is just acrobatic rapping & its cool as that but its not even close to his best song! this is what i meant when i talk about songwriting -- his choruses on zone 6, the beats, they're all so dry & flatline compared to 'gross' or 'trap talk' or certainly the best stuff on 'burrrprint.' theres no beat on 'mr zone 6' coming w/in miles of 'my shadow' and no verse is as emotionally compelling as 'frowney face'

this is some interesting hair-splitting for someone who can't really distinguish the thousand shades of quality and nuance between most Gucci stuff and just gravitates to the obvious standouts. all i know is he hasn't really made any songs on the level of "Lemonade" or "Wasted" this year (although since "Lemonade" charted as a single this year it's definitely gonna be in my top 10)

― Danble Perritration (some dude), Wednesday, November 3, 2010 9:59 PM (26 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

corny. you knew that song last year

hes def made songs better than 'wasted' this year although not nearly as many that would appeal to as wide an audience

like you can call "dats my life" 'too writerly' or w/e too tom b snarl-rasp but like that beat + those verses are as good as shit like "excuse me" & "trap goin crazy" (which i love)

college puns are lol & creative but youre comparing it w/ a real talk verse that bodies the most heart-on-sleeve z-ro verses -- all the trauma beneath the surface of the straightfaced lyrics, the its like a calloused lid on some extremely powerful experiences. its biggie-level autobiography

tom b snarl-rasp

btw did you read the vado review

some dude have you herad 'its alive'

yeah i'm not talking about strictly about song quality but about memorable songs that feel like hits (beyond like Trey Songz sings on this so radio plays it etc.). although i guess i'm one of the only people here that's always really liked "Makin Love To The Money". and i always do year-end singles lists based on when a song was a hit, doesn't matter if i had an album it was on the previous year, don't know what's corny about that.

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its alive is my favorite verse of his this year -- incredible stuff. i also think that drumma boy track that just got a video is pretty epically great

this is like slam poetry now or something lol

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, November 3, 2010 10:55 PM (8 minutes ago)

lol yeah my jaw dropped i was like is this really happening

i like makin love to the money now btw

i mean irl -- the song is cool too

y'know i'm not sure if i have heard "It's Alive" -- nobody made The Appeal sound too erm appealing but i guess that is one song people recommend from it

there are some totally dope beats on 'jewelery selection' like "first song back" & "electricity" but the "gross" beat is incredibly generic

and i always do year-end singles lists based on when a song was a hit, doesn't matter if i had an album it was on the previous year, don't know what's corny about that.

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― Danble Perritration (some dude), Wednesday, November 3, 2010 10:03 PM (54 seconds ago) Bookmark

i dunno it seems goofy -- like you dont trust your own ears & need them verified by popular consensus or something -- lemonade was in my top ten last year so

some dude otm

but the "gross" beat is incredibly generic

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, November 3, 2010 10:05 PM (38 seconds ago) Bookmark

man couldnt disagree more -- the strings & effects are coca coca level dark

stuff on the appeal that's as good as anything gucci has ever done -- "what's it gonna be", "it's alive"

and i always do year-end singles lists based on when a song was a hit, doesn't matter if i had an album it was on the previous year, don't know what's corny about that.

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― Danble Perritration (some dude), Wednesday, November 3, 2010 10:03 PM (54 seconds ago) Bookmark

i dunno it seems goofy -- like you dont trust your own ears & need them verified by popular consensus or something -- lemonade was in my top ten last year so

― deej, Wednesday, November 3, 2010 11:05 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

it's 'popism' not insecurity -- i don't put album cuts on singles lists as a protest of indie fuxx who fill their P&J ballots with non-hits, i stick to singles, and a lot of songs don't become hits until the year after they appear on an album.

the second level of stuff is like: "trap talk", "party animal" (pretty dope "wasted" rip off if you ask me), "odog" (at least until wyclef takes over the last three minutes), "dollar sign"