henry rollins vs. hipsters

^you are the secret Excepter person...!!!
(xpost damn you nabisco)

also Rollins has elephant-in-room-sized-issues SHOCKAH

I have someplace, the audiobook version of "Get in the van"

It ends with 5 50 mins of self and everyone else loathing "Someone gives me a book, I throw it into the trash" moanmoanmoan, then he postscripts it with a "things are different thesedays, but hey these kids now are missing out on a lot of fun"

the best part about get in the van is "The Shed" where henry goes to stare into the darkness and cut himself with broken mirrors and eat coffee grounds and write in his journal.

being in "The Shed" is heavy.

actually all of get in the van rules....October 3rd...outside of Phoenix...why do these punks have to fuck with us? Who do they think I am? What do they think I can tell them? Do they think I care about their lives?

Today, I realized I belong only to myself...I can't even talk to Greg anymore...I ride in the back of the truck with the gear and stare at the ceiling....Before the show in Phoenix some skinhead threw a cup of piss on me. He got knifed by a Mexican bouncer. I didn't care. Fuck him.

I don't even know how long I've been out here. I don't even know what to do when we get off tour. I have no one. Only me.

the audiobook version of "Get in the van"

oh fuck the audio book is even BETTER!

it's like if you understand how to enjoy the whole rollinishness of rollins, it's fucking hilarious, silly, inspiring, ridiculous, admirable, contemtpible... everthing i swear

I also want to mention that if I got to hang out with Shirin Neshat I would show her a MUCH NICER TIME than getting in chest-puffing matches at Cakeshop.

I'd also avoid using her as a prop

I've not heard the audiobook of GITV for like 12 years but my favourite bit was how excited he got when describing how Black Flag overfilled their bowls at all you can eat salad bars and got away with it

Hey, I used to do that. I could have been in Black Flag!

(you'd arrange bits of celery around the bowl like an upside-down straw boater, etc)

yeah salad bars! they loved salad bars.

honestly though the book is striking, like honestly i can't imagine dragging yourself through those depths of disgusting conditions, horrible ppl, bitter cold, unbearable heat, senseless violence, etc for that long at a time...just sounds so awful

Blind date w/Jello Biafra vs. blind date w/Henry Rollins. Should be a game show.

the kid holds himself together pretty well considering...tho he is obv a fool.

He's just an inexperienced kid. Rollins looks like a bully.

lol tho i didnt recognise neshat and i was all who is this lady who doesnt know what "hip" means also arte must be a hella weird station also shirin neshat is only okay imo but damaged is awesome. rollins is prolly the bourgeoisie and we should send him to the gulag come the revolution

also u call her ness-hat in my head

is that weird ferret head-turn look that Rollins gives when he hears his master's voice the same "hey youse kids, stop moshing" stare that MacKaye has?

Another big takeaway from that clip for me was a reminder of how short Rollins is, 'cause I met Neshat at one of her gallery openings a few years back and she is tiny.

LOL just watched that video. So Rollins brings a camera crew in there, spends a few minutes pontificating on youth culture, labeling himself as an outsider, schooling the camera crew on 'hip music', etc., and as soon as a kid bursts his self-importance bubble, he jumps into her face and starts with the hipster bashing.

Think we all know who the real hipster is.

he acts as though if henry rollins is in yr store with a camera crew it's somehow not ok to say "oh, weird, it's henry rollins"

Then he immediately puts his arm around this poor girl and goes on and on about how awesome he is for chillin with a muslim exile. While all these hipsters are sitting around drinking he's MAKING A DIFFERENCE!

He's like Bill O'Reilly or something.

i'd feel awesome chilling with exiles, too, to be honest.

omg totally know that girl in "Sexual Aids" - her name is Meredith

― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Wednesday, November 3, 2010 4:56 PM (6 days ago)

Hey, if she's single...

This is just like a scene from Louie, except that we don't Shirin Neshat tell him at the end that she really just wants to take a cab home alone and not to call her again.

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Yeah, that's Rollins alright.

Since he isn't tooting his own horn, I'd like to point out this article about that nabisco wrote about the whole Rollins kerfuffle.

wkiw Tony the Tiger

You know how older Americans get absurdly aggrieved at the idea that they’ve done something racially insensitive — as if this is the most profound and dehumanizing suggestion that can ever be made about a person? A lot of younger urbanites are reaching this point with the phrase “trust fund.”

not sure about this - I mean it might well be true, I don't live in the US, but one of these things is open to interpretation and the other is something you basically either do or don't have. So I feel like it's pretty reasonable for ppl to find it lame and tiresome that it's passed/passing into the lexicon of 'generic insult available to level at total strangers'

i find the entire trust fund thing idiotic.

the still shot on that article is hilarious

But it’s possible that calling out “GET IN THE VAN” at Henry Rollins is more like if you saw Tony the Tiger filming something at your local bar and called out “THEY’RE GRRREAT!”

<3 this

imo a lot of the people flinging the term "trust fund" around would be at a loss to really tell you what a trust fund is or how one works - the point of the term is to accuse somebody of being rich. which I think is why some people who're perceived as rich get pissed -- they're like "I don't actually know what a trust fund is and you're calling me a 'trust fund kid,' fuck, I'll bet you don't actually know what one is, either, you poseur, fuck you" & this applies to Rollins - five bucks says his def. of "trust fund" wouldn't go very far in explaining how the word "trust" works there

nb if I lose that bet I will have to withdraw the five bucks from my trust fund which can take weeks so be ready for that if you take the bet

wait what?

no i get it
it mostly comes down to being told "you're not so special i bet you had HELP to get where you're at you didn't get it by HARD WORK like i did"
which is nonsense, rags to riches stories don't prove anything and many if not most of the world's most important, intelligent, creative, charitable people came from backgrounds wealthy enough to elevate their opportunities to act
but the accusation is 1/2 you are the bourgeois enemy and 1/2 you didn't earn your life it was given to you
would like to see rollins try that nonsense with, to pick two dumbass reference points out of the ether, angelina jolie or willow smith who would likely respond with YEAH motherfucker i'm RICH AS HELL

I am pretty sure that Willow Smith would never say that for fear of getting her mouth washed out with soap

i find the entire trust fund thing idiotic.

^This. Also, trust funders in NYC? Nooooo wayyyy!

willow can afford delicious soap iirc

Ha ha, doesn't every person born in the UK after 2002 have a Trust Fund (or at least until the Tories get (got) their way?) which will make "trust fund" as insult de jour pretty passe.

*packs gucci bags to go get some of that sweet sweet limey money*

When Henry joined Black Flag (according to GITV), he sold his icecream business, sublet his apt, and was off.

he quit his job at baskin & robbins, not quite the same thing?

no no he invented ice cream and sold the patent to baskin robbins

i missed the part where rollins called the kids "over-tattooed", kind of rich from the man that is probably as directly responsible as anyone for indie tattoo "culture"

I think the trust fund resentment is mostly directed toward people who spend a disproportionate amount of their time making bad art and complaining about how "broke" they are while living in huge Williamsburg lofts. It's quite staggering how many of those people populate NYC at present.

do you guys think maybe some of it was staged? first, rollins plugs the record store, then the lady plugs her band, then at the end rollins plugs his book, and in the middle they try to plug the exile but she doesn't really have anything to sell.

Suddenly the person who called Rollins “paranoid” about how he’s perceived is scrambling to assert that she doesn’t have nearly as much money as he does and respects Neshat “a whole lot.” In a few short moves, Rollins has turned things around: Instead of justifying himself to the young people, they’re justifying themselves to him.

TBF, Rollins actually made an assumption (if not an accusation) about the young woman that she was responding to. She wasn't just freaking out because someone shouted her name or yelled "Sexual Aids!" Not quite the same level of paranoia.

I'm with Nunez some def viral astroturfing goin on in the vid.

and right before the election hmm