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such a bummer

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/11/09/BAAQ1G9C6V.DTL&feed=rss.bayarea

jaxon, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link

yeha, brutal. this will probably set archives vol. 2 back at least three decades.

tylerw, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link

none of the archives stuff was in this warehouse fwiw

the Whiney G. Weingarten Memorial 77 Clique (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link

well, for purely selfish reasons, i'm glad! hope nothing totally irreplaceable was lost.

tylerw, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 20:35 (thirteen years ago) link

"Yeah, I'd like to declare 3 cars, 20 guitars...a whole lot of posters and stuff...and, uh, all the masters of Times Fades Away, yeah, every damn copy I had...that's the ticket..."

da croupier, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 21:17 (thirteen years ago) link

here's the official word:

1-despite the damage, most everything of real value survived.
2-the archives are safe and not there.
3-some video and film was onsite and is ok.
4- Lincvolt was parked over night there and did not fare well in the fire.
5-no precious guitars were on site.
6- I foresee a yard sale in our future and imagine that you will hear abut it
thru me or other official channels.
7- everyone is ok

tylerw, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 16:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Happy 65th!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY4U--ACpsE

clemenza, Friday, 12 November 2010 13:11 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo6gz1YYVnM

^^^oddly similar melody to Pocahantas

the Whiney G. Weingarten Memorial 77 Clique (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 12 November 2010 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link

That's just amazing. I looked up the date, and the Pam Dickinson song is 1966. To me, that's a much more credible example of (subconscious, I'm sure) plagarism than George Harrison and the Chiffons. I'm contacting this woman immediately to see if she wants to launch a lawsuit. If she says yes, I'm quitting my job and going to law school.

clemenza, Friday, 12 November 2010 21:09 (thirteen years ago) link

haha

um the song is written by Carole King

the Whiney G. Weingarten Memorial 77 Clique (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 12 November 2010 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm thinking that Neil and Carole are probably good friends; sounds like my lawsuit's a non-starter.

clemenza, Friday, 12 November 2010 22:46 (thirteen years ago) link

it's just weird - it popped up on this Girl Group Sounds box set and I was like waitaminit I know this melody from somewhere

the Whiney G. Weingarten Memorial 77 Clique (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 12 November 2010 22:48 (thirteen years ago) link

ha! i've heard that song before, but never made the connection. but yeah, pretty similar.

tylerw, Friday, 12 November 2010 22:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Dammit, I wanna sue someone. I think I'm going to go after Marlon Brando's estate.

clemenza, Friday, 12 November 2010 22:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Descendants of Hernan Cortez v. Neil Young & Crazy Horse

tylerw, Friday, 12 November 2010 22:53 (thirteen years ago) link

More seriously, what do you guys think of "Sea of Madness"? I saw the Big Sur movie on TV probably 30-35 years ago, and it always stuck in my mind; didn't get a hold of it till a couple of years ago, and then it turned up on Archives. I totally love it. The guy dancing at the fifty second mark in the clip above is great beyond words.

clemenza, Friday, 12 November 2010 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link

love "sea of madness"! i can kind of imagine a motown version of it or something.

tylerw, Friday, 12 November 2010 23:09 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm thinking that Neil and Carole are probably good friends...

― clemenza, Friday, November 12, 2010 10:46 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

Well they did write "Oh Carole" and "Oh Neil" for each other.

(Or was that Neil Sedaka and Carole Pope? Neil Peart and Carole Bayer Sager?)

Hideous Lump, Saturday, 13 November 2010 04:55 (thirteen years ago) link

It was Neil Sedaka and Carole King. :)

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 13 November 2010 10:26 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Why do I love being a Neil fan? Because I can hear a song of his hundreds of times and think, "oh this is pretty good" each time, but then suddenly be completely blindsided by how amazing it really is. This happened with "What Have You Done To My Life" this morning.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 14:41 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, that whole s/t album is probably my big neil re-discovery of the last few years. probably pushed its way into top 5 neil albums for me, thanks to that amazing remaster.

tylerw, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 16:47 (thirteen years ago) link

that was one of the first Neil albums I bought (80s CD reissue, I think?) but I just HATED the way it sounded and sold it after a couple years. have never gone back to it. maybe I should

from the lowly milligeir to the mighty gigahongro (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link

i think that's how i first heard it too. it seriously is a major, major improvement. used to sound kinda rinky dink, but now it's big and layered.

tylerw, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link

It's crazy how much better that remaster sounds, really.

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 16:58 (thirteen years ago) link

right? the thing just sparkles now, whereas it was pretty flat sounding (even on the vinyl i have). i guess there were a bunch of weirdnesses with the mix when it originally came out.

tylerw, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 17:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, I think having the remaster is a huge reason why the song was such a revelation for me this morning.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 17:02 (thirteen years ago) link

hmm searching for a d/l of the remaster is kinda hard...

from the lowly milligeir to the mighty gigahongro (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 17:06 (thirteen years ago) link

oh never mind, found it

from the lowly milligeir to the mighty gigahongro (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 17:06 (thirteen years ago) link

the claps on cinnamon girls are blowing me away right now, like i never heard the song before

in my world of Hmong ppl (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 17:37 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, after a billion live versions, it's easy to forget how rad that song is. where did it come from? cant really think of another song from the 60s it sounds like.

tylerw, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link

wow this really does sound quite different than I remember. the fuzz guitar tone in particular seems like it must have been difficult to capture correctly

from the lowly milligeir to the mighty gigahongro (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 17:57 (thirteen years ago) link

just to jump on the s/t remaster train, it's maybe the best remaster I can think of ("best" as in greatest improvement in sound quality, hearing it in a new way, etc)

hot lava hair (Z S), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link

just chiming in here, all the remasters sound great but the first album is like a completely new + awesome album

the fuzz attack on stuff like "I've been waiting for you" and "the loner" is flattening

if nothing else this thread will result in some great display names (Edward III), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 20:49 (thirteen years ago) link

& the wide open orchestration on "old laughing lady" could be off of Bryter Later

tylerw, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link

the s/t seems like a template for Gene Clark's "No Other" to me now

from the lowly milligeir to the mighty gigahongro (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 20:53 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, true, and it's interesting how neil could've been more of a cult-type artist along the lines of Gene Clark. Kind of similar trajectories in their early days -- Neil just had some hits (and CSNY of course) that turned him into a superstar.

tylerw, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link

rumored to be playing the bell house in brooklyn tonight w/peggy & bert jansch.

Thus Sang Freud, Thursday, 16 December 2010 01:56 (thirteen years ago) link

never thought much of the s/t, but the raves itt (esp the gene clark comparison) have convinced me to buy the remaster soon. only 8.99 on amazon!

swvl, Thursday, 16 December 2010 02:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Let me say a word for "The Emperor of Wyoming," one of my three favorite rarely-talked-about Neil songs (other two: "Country Girl" and "Ocean Girl"). On the downside, "The Last Trip to Tulsa" is interminable, and almost as silly as the Doors at their silliest.

clemenza, Thursday, 16 December 2010 02:21 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah "last trip" is a misstep for sure. though the version with (i think) the santa monica flyers from the 70s is awesome. a lot shorter too.

tylerw, Thursday, 16 December 2010 02:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Making this pretty funny.

clemenza, Thursday, 16 December 2010 02:43 (thirteen years ago) link

"I've been waiting for you" is one my favorite Neil back catalog surprises.

Trip Maker, Thursday, 16 December 2010 02:45 (thirteen years ago) link

if anything "last trip to tulsa" is a dylan rip

it's slight but he gets some good lines in

if nothing else this thread will result in some great display names (Edward III), Thursday, 16 December 2010 02:54 (thirteen years ago) link

It is more Dylan than Doors, you're right.

clemenza, Thursday, 16 December 2010 02:57 (thirteen years ago) link

haaa, that promo is hilarious

tylerw, Thursday, 16 December 2010 04:34 (thirteen years ago) link

The best part is the implication that Neil somehow got separated from his guitar during his Buffalo Springfield days...Had he switched over to cello or something during that time?

clemenza, Thursday, 16 December 2010 13:09 (thirteen years ago) link

add another missing album to the pile -- just read this, never heard of it before:
I woke up in the middle of the night because I’ve been listening to this – it’s a bit of a tangent here, but I’ve been listening to this album called Treasure, which I have in the can that was done in 1985. I’ve been listening to it because I plan on releasing it someday, and it’s a great record. But all of the people – the key people – are all gone. I have this history of these people that are playing the greatest music of our lives, playing unbelievably great, and now they’re gone, and I didn’t continue playing with them. At some point I had to say, “I’ll see you guys later. I gotta go do this. I’m gonna go play with Crazy Horse now. I’m gonna do this or I’m gonna do that.” In that way I am ruthless, but I’m ruthless for the music. What is ruth? I don’t know what ruth is. If I don’t have any of it, you know, I’m okay.”

tylerw, Thursday, 16 December 2010 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link

He's the one artist that *has* to have a "A NEW ALBUM FROM" sticker on his, um, new albums.

Mark G, Thursday, 16 December 2010 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link

"Cinnamon Girl" - double drop D, no? Got to be relatively unusual, though I think he used the same tuning for "Ohio." Perhaps accounts for their striking-ness.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 December 2010 15:46 (thirteen years ago) link

there's a clip from the archives where neil shows a fan how to play it, and yeah, i think it's double drop d.

tylerw, Thursday, 16 December 2010 15:51 (thirteen years ago) link


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