Bassline/Bassline House etc

bump.

I'm hearing 'no///' from the ILX massive!

This stuff sounds like sped-up 2 step over speed garage beats. 'Heartbroken' immediately reminds me of Jaimeson's 'True' but with the added bass sound and chopped vocals. It's good altho as usual I'd prefer the bass to be just heavier - think the bass was actually deeper on 'True' as it was on stuff by 187 Lockdown and Loop Da Loop (make it more like that, remixes at least).

Don't like the term 'bassline' tho because as with 'drum n' bass' it only tells part of the story, and the basslines just aren't quite big enough.

I like! (Anyone got any dj sets they can link?)

There was a Dissensus thread (called something like UKG vs UKG) I googled yesterday with links to a couple of sets on - when I got home I found my internet had broke though so I dunno if they're working links.

no///

Tantrum, <A HREF="http://www.musicv2.com/artist/smiler___andre";>go here</A>. haven't tried 'em all out (i do love me some bassline, but after a while this stuff gets... exhausting), but i'd reccomend "Bassline Heaven 5" for starters - the first 20 or so minutes are killer.

plus here's <A HREF="http://www.speedyshare.com/424350268.html";>a treat for y'all</A>: Naughty Nick nicking the acappela from Stonebridge's "Put 'Em High" and a breakdown from a huge 90s dance tune... but i won't spoil it any more, hear for yourself!

maybe i should have payed attention to the "formatting help" bit below, eh

but i'd reccomend "Bassline Heaven 5" for starters - the first 20 or so minutes are killer.

Listening as we speak - killer stuff, but I agree, you have to be in the mood for this kind of thing (luckily, I am today).

Thanks again, Mind Taker - you certainly have a knack for finding this stuff!

Agent X mix: http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=5A4E346C51C6C037

I.e. this: http://www.catapult.co.uk/products/CDs/Urban/The+Official+Agent+X+Mix+CD

Thank you, jim!

what's the line between this and funky house?

or urban house or whatever they're calling it

It's made a big impression on the funky house nights and audience in my small hometown even. The music has got a fair bit more ravey and rougher, but you don't hear the grimey stuff like in the bigger cities with more dedicated nights.

Is this catching on more down South now, with the one extra play?

Funky house is more boompty-boompty, bit slower too probably, not as bassline focused. I don't know if it's gotten bigger down south but it has absolutely no penetration in Scotland as far as I can tell.

Whereas funky house is all over the shop.

wouldnt say i've the fullest grasp of bassline (can we not call it niche like everyone else tho) but i guess it's got more of a ruffer boshing 4/4 euro sugarhouse edge? thin tinny vox, plinky plonky, untz untz - not necessarily to do with any kind of glowering stripped down menace, just people off their faces. whereas urban house is much more about slinky swanky classic house vibes w/ soulful vocals, congas and bongos, generally. check the defected comp for instance, yr not gonna hear any peven everett and kerri chandler types in niche.

altho that description makes it sound like it's all a big racewar or something. there's a fair amount of x-over really.

yeah, bassline has made this stuff so much more fun because it throws in some of the toytown/stupid feeling of latterday Northern hardcore, as well as garage obviously.

latterday northern hardcore: http://www.myspace.com/hardcoreuprising

'heartbroken' isn't spearheading a scene for anyone who's not into bassline tho is it. it's instantly familiar, if not a total retro wheeze.

likewise 'the cure & the cause' appealing as an 06 'spin spin sugar' van helden rmx (with the same drum pattern as groovejet/bextor to boot)

agent x must surely have wept tears of joy when he found out about niche! he's always been too hamfisted for ukg.

I'm a bit late to 'Heartbroken' but I love it!!! Although I don't quite see what sounds 'new' here (the odd eski-synth maybe)- this years 'Babycakes'?

http://music.guardian.co.uk/urban/story/0,,2204182,00.html

Also new to Heartbroken (and Bassline House, really) but this sounds great right now.

anyone else worried it could get overhyped and get too much press and go mainstream too quickly (if you believe that something CAN go mainstream too quickly)? hopefully it wont, mainly being a northern thing and most journalists being too lazy to bother going all the way to sheffield etc.

BBC local report on Bassline club nights getting shut down: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1Rw9CWw19Q

Would anyone mind posting that Agent X mix cd?

anyone else worried it could get overhyped and get too much press and go mainstream too quickly

well, it's not like it's in its infancy stage: like dubstep before it, it's been brewing for a long time under the mainstream media's radar, and comes to its attention fully-formed. and while the grimier side of bassline may get overhyped, the original northern organ-house thing will surely remain unfashionable as ever.

Would anyone mind posting that Agent X mix cd?

i don't have it, but you can try out this wicked Nev Wright mix.

been playing this stuff out around london for a couple of years..always kills.

there's a good introductory minimix on uk-flava.co.uk...will dig out the link inabit

just had a butchers at that uk flava site (or the myspace anyway) - isn't that just all the southern ukg refugees riding the wave? if any of these mixes are the ones you mean, that is.

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/3290/flava2na5.jpg

don't get me wrong tho, i'll take ^^ this fiyah ^^ over the northern monkey bosh any day of the week. no media hype love-in for that though :(

nev wright mix is not doing all that much for me today, altho 'heartbroken' is still top 10 07 material.

ooh a dexplicit mix of 'sambucca'! gimme.

was thinking of their 'mashup' minimix more but fair point:) as far as london goes i umbrella 4x4/bassline/niche/speed garage together..bass against all the midrange-migraine electro doing the rounds

this is the same or different from "urban house"?

yeah no i suppose everyone wins at the end of the day eh. some of the more genteel mj/todd disciples certainly needed the mild poke in the ribs.

find us that mashup mix tho, can't see it anywhere.

this is the same or different from "urban house"?

urban house: funky house with a light, soca-ish feel. check out Footloose's "Just Leave".

bassline: started off as the northern speed garage revival + sped-up "Show Me Love"-type organ house, nowadays it's mostly associated with a grimier sound: big wobbling basslines are still there, but they're less housey and are often accompanied by grime's tacky martial synth strings, sometimes MC's. (ie, the Nev Wright mix i linked above)

4x4: old school UKG, basically a bunch of Todd Edwards/MJ Cole/Tuff Jam fetishists. as far as i'm concerned, this stuff peaked in the '03-'05 period, with lots of ace dubby stuff exploring the trackier house end of speed garage (Tuff Jam, New Horizons) - check out this Duncan Powell mix.

there's also some talk of "jackin' house": not UKG really, but big with old school UKG headz: for example, the Digital Villains remix of The Midnight Circus (Pete Devereux, ex Artful Dodger), who've also been remixed by Joey Youngman (scroll down on TMC's myspace player).

some of the more genteel mj/todd disciples certainly needed the mild poke in the ribs.

...but to what effect? i lurk a bit on the uptown records forum, and just about every time i check there's a "bassline is soulless chav crap"-type thread on the frontpage. and the scene itself feels knackered rather than combat-ready... i mean, when i check out ukg radio show playlists, it's always the same tunes, there's next to no variety week in week out - but when i check out bassline mixes, there's always tons of tracks i haven't heard before, there's so much of it out there that it's bewildering. (okay, a lot of it is just big dumb bassline + not much else, but still...)

that "UK Flava Volume 2" mix is alright, even though it cuts off Will Philips' gorgeous "Over with You" remix way too early... but this is the og-ukg mix that i've played the most this year:

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/301/nuskoolvol22hz9.jpg

here's the link, if you can be bothered registering on the mixheaven forums.

thanks, mind taker!

ah, you know i keep meaning to check out footloose's show. (and dj q's for that matter. sigh, where's paul scifi these days.) based on that tune i didn't realise the scene was quite so... fruity. sounds like the sort of thing sticky and cameo think they've invented. (i ain't calling it 'dirty pop', i know that much.)

you're right though, the true skool lot haven't been shaken up a great deal. big moany moaners aside i'd say there's been a small shift, at least on the dj's side, of encouraging some of the fatter ruffer stuff, but then again only if it's made by people they know like the wideboys or agent x or whoever. like you say however, the "soulful" bomb is never very far away.

bit harsh to say the scene's knackered though. maybe that's what i like about it, to be fair; but i guess i'd better go and get myself a better awareness of bassline's ways before i say something overly honest like "i'd rather hear a thousand more hilariously predictable 3 minute long piano intros where mj thinks he's thomas newman than bother parroting on about how the kids on the bus go round and round etc" OOPSY LOOKS LIKE I JUST DID!! nah but seriously, there's a lot of good stuff still coming out of there.

haha this is pretty sick tho http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKRHJ_-mRo4

ISYOUUUUUISYOUUUUUISYOUUUUUISYOUUUUU

you're right, that "Is You" tune is great!

"dirty pop", haha yes! still, i love Sticky's Fantasia remix to death, it's real sexy.

while we're talking urban house: have you heard Wookie's Omarion remix? i think it's just... oooh, super funky!

also worth checking out: Jelly Beats' "City Girls".

wookie was the first person i thought of when you mentioned 'jacking house'! tbf 'entourage' was a open goal waiting to be tapped in for a house guy.

likewise there is no way someone called jelly beats could make a song called city girls and it not be great. it is some kind of law.

hmm what can i give you in return.

sunship remix of my destiny?

deesha falling in love delinquent mix is an old chestnut by now but fuck it, AHHH SO GOOD

wookie was the first person i thought of when you mentioned 'jacking house'!

tbh i don't really have a handle on the term, i've seen it applied to stuff i don't consider even remotely "jacking" - like say Will Phillips' recent proper tasteful house attempts. (i've just gone to his myspace, now he has some zzzz deep house up track there)

that Sunship remix of "My Destiny" is nice, but i'm not feeling the official '07 bassline rerub (the one that's supposed to break it into mainstream, right?)... actually, i think Delinquent's bassline stuff in general is awful! they were much better at 2step/steppers 4x4.

oh, and i see that there's also a Delio D'Cruz electrohouse remix of "My Destiny" - sounding good on first listen. loved that guy's remix of Kelly R's "Like This", even tho it was a totally shameless Bodyrox ripoff.

actually, i think Delinquent's bassline stuff in general is awful

scratch that, i was thinking of Dexplicit instead of Delinquent there... meaning it's about time i finally go to sleep, i think. ;)

(but it's not like i'm a big fan of the "What's Your Fantasy" rerub or "Colours" anyway)

strangely enough, i somehow missed/overlooked that Deesha rmx! i like it. ukgmp3 has it too.

oh balls yeah i heard 'my destiny' got signed but i didn't know that was the mix they were running with :(

am also disappointed with dexplicit's new stuff, although it's doing ok for him by the looks of it. his rng stuff made me think he was on the verge of cracking something mildly interesting, but i guess he'll always be a thwarted ragga producer trapped on an island of mugs.

oh wait he did do that rubbish mavado rmx didn't he. forget i said anything.

"4x4: old school UKG, basically a bunch of Todd Edwards/MJ Cole/Tuff Jam fetishists. as far as i'm concerned, this stuff peaked in the '03-'05 period, with lots of ace dubby stuff exploring the trackier house end of speed garage (Tuff Jam, New Horizons) - check out this Duncan Powell mix."

I don't remember or somehow missed New Horizons sounds being revived :-(

On the other hand I found their amazing (and raved about by no-one else in the world ever except me it seems) remix of Dem 2's "Destiny" on vinyl the other day. Now I know that New Horizons remixing Dem 2 sounds horribly worthy and canonical but it really is the biggest tune ever.

RTC or anyone else can you explain whethere there's a link between any of this stuff and the Boy Better Know Tropical mix??

RTC or anyone else can you explain whethere there's a link between any of this stuff and the Boy Better Know Tropical mix??

as far as i've noticed, it's a grime-contained anomaly that hasn't crossed over to other UKG strands.

btw, i've read a rumour that Delinquent will do an official remix of J Holiday's "Bed", which T2 already did but - as soon as he finished it, he gave a copy to Cameo, without giving it to the record company first. and the record company wasn't pleased with this gesture, so he got booted off the project. true or not, T2's "Bed" is still on Cameo's myspace. and it's still quite good.

in other news, "Heartbroken" haters have a lot of free time on their hands.

yeah, i believe tropical's only impact on this rotten world was kiss fm's jez welham using 'holiday' behind the traffic reports for a bit. when you consider the kind of useless toss grime watchers usually pick over ad nauseum it is quite frankly as if i dreamt the whole thing up one day.

a monstrous injustice.

That's Dizzee's "Flex" I'm referring to there.

but not the Glasweigan DJ Q?

dj q's remix of flex is quite brilliant.

wut's crackin here?

Can anyone name top 10 essential bassline tracks? So far I like:

T2 - Heartbroken
Delinquent feat. Kcat - My Destiny
H Two O - What's It Gonna Be
TS & 7 - Smile

So basically I like bassline with catchy female vocal in it.

like most people here and elsewhere, i've stopped checking bassline some time ago... but i've discovered this incidentally few days ago and it's fantastic:

Love Assassins - The Boy Is Mine (Rebel Bassline Mix)

This is still some of my favourite music to dance to ever, although I still feel like I could do with a decent primer on the style's peak years.

Couldn't give a primer, but yeah this stuff is still great. I hear new tunes every so often but no idea what kind of scene there is. DJ Q and Burgaboy still produce some good stuff.

Dj beez April! Excellent mix.

I think in theory I like poppy bassline best but then often the spooky stuff is erm prettier? If you accused me of doing the classic herb listener of imposing values from other genres I'd be hardpressed to defend myself - probably there's some hallucination of hyper-on experience vs terra danjah vibes at work.

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Will make people retch on principle but the bassline remix of Katy perry's "E.T" also is very pretty.

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ok let's take it over here.

yeah beez april is good innit! i don't even think it's a more-than-sum-of-parts mix that especially articulates anything about bassline particularly wonderfully, it's just competently got all the tracks of the moment and THEY'RE ALL JUST REALLY QUITE GOOD.

i will say that all the lady vocal cuts are pretty much my favourite things in the world.

generally i am very glad to have anyone else cosign some bassline because it's very much like an upside down lunatic alice in wonderland rabbit hole once you get hooked in and i pretty much no longer have any idea if my ramblings on the subject are socially acceptable - meaning i don't really judge maximum sugar/maximum darkness inversions and perversions like the katy perry and ussy tracks by any other genre's standards but bassline's, and they all make the most perfect gleeful nonsense here.

haven't heard that mix in full yet but the 3 tracks off the girls love bassline ep are fab.

yes! taking advantage of the collection format that ep is probably my favourite single release of the year. shame the accompanying mix wasnt quite as good, but still of use as a refresher course i'm sure.

dj beez february mix is my favourite of his i think, it really runs with the gibbering provincial juvenile truant angle throughout (save for a big bouncy mix of gaga 'telephone' slap bang in the middle obv)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpiycgtX4Lo

like you don't question for a moment that this is the actual national anthem of the uk

and in more ~musical~ terms i really loved dj apostle's sounds of the new skool vol 30 - from january so probably a tiny bit dated now but it's just excellent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-v6LieeMY8

i mean really now how good is this!!!

Really like that. Emvee is a bit good I don't think I've heard much of his more bassline style stuff, I'm pretty impressed. Those drums are madness.

sickness.

what are some new bassline mixes?

DJ Q has done a promo mix for his set at Fabric w/ Butterz: http://www.fabriclondon.com/blog/view/butterz-dj-q-fabriclive-x-butterz-mix

doesnt look like much bassline on there tho

Its kind of all over the spot innit, it might give someone a way in though if they're feeling the grimy bits or whatever.

http://www.basslineblog.co.uk/?p=1584

thumbs up, get it down ye

pantha 32 is out as well if you like that sort of thing :)

nothing quite as good as emmerdale riddim on there though

http://soundcloud.com/dj-pantha/dj-pantha-emmerdale-dub

Wowzers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C91uemYZi60&feature=related

<3 <3 <3

https://soundcloud.com/clb_sounds/dont-walk-away-free-download

Any of you guys would happen to know if this compilation would count as bassline?

https://www.discogs.com/Various-Bassline-Classics/release/400947

Considering it was released in the year 2000 it might be too early, but it has the name for it, so I don't know.

it does not

that counts as a pretty basic selection of 2-step tunes with a bit of an emphasis on tracks with particularly heavy basslines

bassline is 4x4 music

that said, if i saw that in a charity shop for a coin i would snap it up.

yeah it's not a bad selection

https://djmag.com/features/history-bassline

Matt Anniss does a history of bassline house, nothing new in there for anyone interested in this stuff but it's nice to see it being talked about seriously.