when did ILM get taken over by MORONS?

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not to say there aren't a handful of regular careerist posters I wouldn't love to punch in the face

milton parker (Jon L), Saturday, 17 September 2005 06:16 (eighteen years ago) link

i want to punch myself in the face wuite often. usually right after seeing what i've posted.

*PUNCH*

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 17 September 2005 06:28 (eighteen years ago) link

no way man, you're one of the few trustworthy ones

milton parker (Jon L), Saturday, 17 September 2005 06:30 (eighteen years ago) link

the only reason you listen to music is because you like it

milton parker (Jon L), Saturday, 17 September 2005 06:33 (eighteen years ago) link

]:-D

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Saturday, 17 September 2005 06:34 (eighteen years ago) link

hails

milton parker (Jon L), Saturday, 17 September 2005 06:34 (eighteen years ago) link

man fuck those guys

gear (gear), Saturday, 17 September 2005 07:01 (eighteen years ago) link

i'd rather have pompous rock critics than "omg i heard a song on the radio and i didn't hate it AM I CRAZEE IS THERE SOMETHING WRONG WITH ME?!?!?!?!?!?!?!"

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 17 September 2005 07:07 (eighteen years ago) link

or "ULTIMATE BATTLES: SOME OVERPLAYED DADROCK BAND VS SOME OTHER OVERPLAYED DADROCK BAND"

dave q just did this with so much more finesse!

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 17 September 2005 07:11 (eighteen years ago) link

SPRINGSTEEN VS LIONEL RICHIE FITE

gear (gear), Saturday, 17 September 2005 07:17 (eighteen years ago) link

now we're talkin

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 17 September 2005 07:21 (eighteen years ago) link

i can't fuckin decide. do i have to? i mean - lionel - dancing on the fucking ceiling vs bruce - wrap yer hands round these velvet rims. why do i have to anyway? are you gonna say something enlightening about this? is that the point? go on then.

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Saturday, 17 September 2005 07:29 (eighteen years ago) link

dancing: on the ceiling vs in the dark

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 17 September 2005 07:42 (eighteen years ago) link

dancing on the ceiling is a superhero feat, and therefore kick-ass.

dancing in the dark presumably means you're either dancing in a dark room by yourself, or dancing whilst blind, or both. fucking sad. obviously dancing on the ceiling wins.

gear (gear), Saturday, 17 September 2005 07:47 (eighteen years ago) link

y'know, not clicking on threads you know aren't gonna be worth it actually expends less energy than clicking on them

lemin (lemin), Saturday, 17 September 2005 07:55 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www2.imm.dtu.dk/~pch/Projekter/Shock/main/img234.gif

well i'll be damned, he's right

gear (gear), Saturday, 17 September 2005 08:01 (eighteen years ago) link

i always thought "dancing in the dark" was a euphemism for "fucking."

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 17 September 2005 08:06 (eighteen years ago) link

no no: boy george understands why the boss dances in the dark

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Saturday, 17 September 2005 08:07 (eighteen years ago) link

I still really wish that one guy wasn't wearing a Cardinals shirt.
Cardinal Mor4n!

k/l (Ken L), Saturday, 17 September 2005 08:10 (eighteen years ago) link

random google morons who get all uppity because someone is hating on their 12th favourite indie rock band and list threads are the things that annoy me, moron-wise. I kind of blame gier for the list thread thing, though no doubt it was someone else who kicked that one off. I think there's the same amount of good stuff there as there always was, but the s/n ratio has got a lot worse recently.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Saturday, 17 September 2005 08:20 (eighteen years ago) link

i've said it before and i'll say it again, ilm has made me way way listy. i never really cared about lists before. i wasn't much of a list-maker in that analobsessive rockcritiky way. i never thought about my top ten favorite boogie woogie artists or whatever. when in rome, i suppose...

i hate ilm too sometimes. mostly cuz i spend too much time on it. that brings out some nice self-loathing. but every time i see another message board/forum on the web devoted to music in some way i thank my lucky stars that i don't have to deal with the other morans out there in the real world! i am used to ilx morans.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 17 September 2005 08:53 (eighteen years ago) link

I think your hunch / theory has some truth to it. (i.e. that 'theory' is effectively a language game in which knowing the rules, and participating in the conversation is central, and the actual names / terms in circulation could be switched for something else -- e.g. football / soccer without much changing, except that 'theory' talkers maybe share some kind of sense that what they're talking about is 'important' in a different way from the way football talk is 'important' [left unexplained here: important TO someone; important to the future of the universe; etc. different conversations will have different answers, clearly, which is why people take part in them, maybe, and could we explore the differences starting from this question?]) I don't think it's the whole truth, but I would have to think a bit before I could put my finger on what my reserveations are...


m coleman (lovebug starski), Saturday, 17 September 2005 11:24 (eighteen years ago) link

http://ilx.wh3rd.net/archive.php?board=2&date=28%2F8%2F2000

k/l (Ken L), Saturday, 17 September 2005 13:15 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't really like lists myself, whether it's ten best whatevers or ilm's top whatevers of the noughties poll... but there's no reason to get angry about it!

s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 17 September 2005 14:09 (eighteen years ago) link

mark i wanted to ask you if you've seen "the aristocrats" and what you thought of it. (i haven't)

ILX isn't like one joke told 100 ways, it's 100 jokes told in one boring way.

n million threads about dance/reggae/rap w/ people endlessly restating a few other people's views, w/o generally even thinking about it or bothering to know the music.

vahid (vahid), Saturday, 17 September 2005 14:31 (eighteen years ago) link

it's like ILX has spawned this whole monstrous group of people who are more comfortable talking about things like "movements" "styles" and "genres" than they are talking about a fucking CD or song or artist or something.

vahid (vahid), Saturday, 17 September 2005 14:44 (eighteen years ago) link

vent some of this anger on our poor, malingering blog, duder

strng hlkngtn (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 17 September 2005 14:45 (eighteen years ago) link

anyway, the answer is august 2001

strng hlkngtn (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 17 September 2005 14:46 (eighteen years ago) link

I've never understood the hate directed at list threads. They're just fun time-wasters that don't need to be taken seriously. Top 100 songs with baby talk in the chorus? Why not? They're like the silly games you'd play in the car as a kid when you'd be on a long drive, except now you're grown up and it's the internet.

I'm a list freak but obv. lists != informed discussion.

n million threads about dance/reggae/rap w/ people endlessly restating a few other people's views, w/o generally even thinking about it or bothering to know the music.

This is why I generally avoid the big clusterfuck threads and prefer the smaller threads where ten people shoot the shit about Wolfgang Voigt.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 17 September 2005 15:49 (eighteen years ago) link

it's like ILX has spawned this whole monstrous group of people who are more comfortable talking about things like "movements" "styles" and "genres" than they are talking about a fucking CD or song or artist or something.

This predates ILX though, no? I mean, what about literary critics who want to talk about "textuality" or "authorship" or whatever instead of actual specific books?

pr00de, where's my car? (pr00de), Saturday, 17 September 2005 16:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Jeez vahid, next time I have a stoopid pissed Bob Marley thought I'll keep it to meself.

I Oppose All Rock and Roll (noodle vague), Saturday, 17 September 2005 16:18 (eighteen years ago) link

frogm@n henry made me laff here:

Q Magazine 100 greatest albums-I know what I'm voting for-Loveless

amon (eman), Saturday, 17 September 2005 17:20 (eighteen years ago) link

vahid i haven't seen the aristocrats yet!! but fuck, i gotta soon.

s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 17 September 2005 17:42 (eighteen years ago) link

slocki just reminded me that the only people i like to talk to about movies on ile post to the noize board at least once in a blue moon. coincidence?

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 17 September 2005 17:49 (eighteen years ago) link

i didn't like the aristocrats that much, it's probably one to see on dvd if at all.

gear (gear), Saturday, 17 September 2005 18:08 (eighteen years ago) link

slocki just reminded me that the only people i like to talk to about movies on ile post to the noize board at least once in a blue moon. coincidence?

i was gonna say the same thing about ILM

Jaxon (jaxon), Saturday, 17 September 2005 18:19 (eighteen years ago) link

aristocrats not as good as hoped. when the entire point of the movie is about what you learn about a comedian from their version of the joke, then you edit the hell out of everyone's rendition so at no point do you actually hear any comedian tell the joke from start to finish seems odd. Taylor Negron wins for funniest interviewee, though.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 17 September 2005 18:38 (eighteen years ago) link

they don't present their versions in full?

s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 17 September 2005 18:40 (eighteen years ago) link

as an info service and a way to meet people who like some of the music I like ILM is pretty good, not that there are legions of new people coming in these days, but I don't really get the hate for ILM. If it gets boring I tend not to read it, the last week or two has been a bit quiet. I suppose I don't use it for serious argument/discussion anymore, I just read whatever the latest few threads about dance music are.

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 17 September 2005 19:10 (eighteen years ago) link

fkn strt the video game board already

fks sake

cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 17 September 2005 19:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Why am I scaring you? You obviously do not really love music if you can't locate the electro/techno textures in Roni's work.
Some more suggestions on a rather more chilled, post-club comedown vibe:

Mantra ft Linda Oliviera - Lullaby
Groove Armada - Superstylin'
Lemon Jelly - Come
Playtime Toons - The Shaker Song
Different Gear vs The Police - When The World Is Running
Azido Da Bass - Dooms Night (Timo Maas Mix)
Bob Marley vs Funkstar Deluxe - Sun Is Shinin'

-- Carte Noir (c.n.eos89...), September 17th, 2005 4:12 PM. (later)

cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 17 September 2005 19:16 (eighteen years ago) link

re: aristocrats, suprisingly no...I kept waiting for even ONE version, maybe what they decided was the definitive version, say Gilbert Gottfried's appearance at the Heffner roast or Bob Saget's lengthy and dirty dirty version, but nope. By all means it's worth watching, but it would've made a great 50 minute dvd or something.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 17 September 2005 19:17 (eighteen years ago) link

ILX isn't like one joke told 100 ways, it's 100 jokes told in one boring way.

Vahid, I don't understand. Why keep visiting/reading/posting to ILM? If you don't like something, just walk away from it.

nathalie (stevie nixed), Saturday, 17 September 2005 19:45 (eighteen years ago) link

dan: that's weird! maybe the dvd will include all the full-length versions, though. still, i must see this movie i suppose.

s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 17 September 2005 20:01 (eighteen years ago) link

what is ILM again?

sugarpants: like throwing gold at platinum. (sugarpants), Saturday, 17 September 2005 20:06 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.codap.com/papers/Ward/ILM.gif

gear (gear), Saturday, 17 September 2005 20:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Taylor Negron wins for funniest interviewee, though.

taylor negron!! :D

don't be jerk, this is china (FE7), Saturday, 17 September 2005 20:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Taylor Negron
Born: 1-Aug-1958
Birthplace: Glendale, CA

Gender: Male
Ethnicity: Hispanic
Occupation: Actor, Comic

Level of fame: Somewhat [ha!!]
Executive summary: The Last Boy Scout

don't be jerk, this is china (FE7), Saturday, 17 September 2005 20:12 (eighteen years ago) link

fezaffe, how are you so in tune with american pop culture that you know who taylor negron is?

who is the german equivalent of taylor negron, then?

cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 17 September 2005 20:17 (eighteen years ago) link

i dont know! ive only seen him in last boy scout

don't be jerk, this is china (FE7), Saturday, 17 September 2005 20:18 (eighteen years ago) link

http://cprplus.us/images/firstdefense.gif

R_S (RSLaRue), Monday, 20 November 2006 21:02 (seventeen years ago) link

three years pass...

relevant revive

the light hearted poster for light hearted ilxors (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 08:40 (fourteen years ago) link

3:36 PM, 22 Dec 05 Predict The Year Grunge Makes A Comeback deleted by u saved me (i dont think so, homie)

― u saved me (dubplatestyle), Thursday, December 22, 2005 8:36 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^I liked this though

the light hearted poster for light hearted ilxors (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 08:41 (fourteen years ago) link

thread is a wealth of riches but

i came close to total despair yesterday when i found my mouse hovering over the link to the "best third albums EVER!" thread

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, December 22, 2005 12:21 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol @ board description nominee

Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 12:59 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.swamirecords.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3645

StanM, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 14:23 (fourteen years ago) link

i wish the polls could move to their own board

by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 14:31 (fourteen years ago) link

that i could make invisible

by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 14:31 (fourteen years ago) link

amazing thread

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 15:15 (fourteen years ago) link

i came close to total despair yesterday when i found my mouse hovering over the link to the "best third albums EVER!" thread

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, December 22, 2005 12:21 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

hread this twice before noticing date. yeaaaaah.

pro bono publico (history mayne), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 15:16 (fourteen years ago) link

only been here but a minute but i just gotta say seeing people discuss Free Jazz, Post-Dubstep and Doom Metal right next to threads about Elvis Costello and, i don't know what else i missed, Barbara Streissand? is a bit disorienting to say the least...

zoom, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Precisely.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:20 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't even think i'd have the heart for the kind of massacre an ilm kill-spree would result in circa 2010

strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:26 (fourteen years ago) link

it's like ILX has spawned this whole monstrous group of people who are more comfortable talking about things like "movements" "styles" and "genres" than they are talking about a fucking CD or song or artist or something.

― vahid (vahid), Saturday, September 17, 2005 2:44 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

now, more than ever

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:28 (fourteen years ago) link

first against the wall tho:

The marriage of indie-rock and contemporary R&B [Started by Evan R in February 2010, last updated 59 seconds ago]

strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:32 (fourteen years ago) link

lock n load

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link

i wish the polls could move to their own board

― by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, February 10, 2010 8:31 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

that i could make invisible

― by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, February 10, 2010 8:31 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

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goole, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:34 (fourteen years ago) link

some polls are good, some polls are bad. same with threads. and posters/posts on said poll/thread

anita bonghit (rionat), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Polls are just threads with revives built-in.

Mark G, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link

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I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh, I rarely heckle myself. But I do enjoy it. Not if its overdone, true. But I like the way it deflates the typical show dynamic a bit. My favorite example, I guess, is at the end of some bands set and before they went offstage to wait out the inevitable encore, some guy yelled "play another song you fucking faggots!" Admittedly not witty, but it made me laugh. Now that I think about it, I only really like it when there's a roomful of people all rapt over some sensitive soul up there sharing their intelligence and genius or whatever. I like seeing that deflated.

xposts

― Mister Jim, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 20:30 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

see I'm not saying that whoever the fuck this guy is 'represents' ILM '10 or whatever but I think it was this that pushed me over the edge

the light hearted poster for light hearted ilxors (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:04 (fourteen years ago) link

i found my mouse hovering over the link to the "best third albums EVER!" thread

Got to be London Calling, right? Dig Me Out & Born To Run are also doozies.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link

threads are just polls without the numbers.

by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link

feeling rather perverse this morning and clicked on the Christina Aguilera thread... she's working with diplo and switch now! wow! where did i put that assault rifle...

zoom, Thursday, 11 February 2010 07:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Have you checked behind that big pile of SugBans?

Are you reelin' in the SBs? (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 February 2010 08:19 (fourteen years ago) link

nine years pass...

ikr

pomenitul, Saturday, 18 January 2020 17:02 (four years ago) link

great revive

I knew I could count on you.

pomenitul, Saturday, 18 January 2020 17:03 (four years ago) link

(With apologies to Neanderthal.)

pomenitul, Saturday, 18 January 2020 17:04 (four years ago) link


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